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XXXIV wrote:

Whats wrong with you?

Dont you know he owns an Applause Meter 6000?
Nah...I dumped the 6000 for the 9900 a long time ago. :)

Seriously, isn't Philly predominantly Democratic? The party was founded there, wasn't it? Isn't that what you would expect?
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George W. Bush gave more terrorists a free ride back to Saudi Arabia on 09/12/2001 than Obama could befriend if he lived to be 100 - and Bush did it with our tax dollars as we sat in our houses and prayed for those who died in the terrorist attacks.

Seven plus years, two wars, thousands of American lives and billions of American dollars later and the chief architect of those attacks is still alive and breathing. Probably laughing his ass off as the stock market drops below 9000.

I guess i am just like W (the president) and see things in black and white: The man who planned the attacks is still alive and his family continues to print money out of oil. American's cut back while the Saudi's buy H2's with pocket change for their teenage sons.

You want a war hero in DC? We had one in Max Cleland. But the Rebublicans thought Saxby Chambliss (who sat out Vietnam with a football injury) was a better choice and swift boated the war hero in the wheelchair. And Chambliss paid Bush pack by rubber stamping everything Bush wanted - including the bailout.

But the massive debt and financial crisis is all Bill Clinton and Nancy Pelosi's fault, right guys?
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kevinpars wrote:George W. Bush gave more terrorists a free ride back to Saudi Arabia on 09/12/2001 than Obama could befriend if he lived to be 100 - and Bush did it with our tax dollars as we sat in our houses and prayed for those who died in the terrorist attacks.

Seven plus years, two wars, thousands of American lives and billions of American dollars later and the chief architect of those attacks is still alive and breathing. Probably laughing his ass off as the stock market drops below 9000.

I guess i am just like W (the president) and see things in black and white: The man who planned the attacks is still alive and his family continues to print money out of oil. American's cut back while the Saudi's buy H2's with pocket change for their teenage sons.

You want a war hero in DC? We had one in Max Cleland. But the Rebublicans thought Saxby Chambliss (who sat out Vietnam with a football injury) was a better choice and swift boated the war hero in the wheelchair. And Chambliss paid Bush pack by rubber stamping everything Bush wanted - including the bailout.

But the massive debt and financial crisis is all Bill Clinton and Nancy Pelosi's fault, right guys?
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Welcome My friends...Welcome to Fantasy Island.

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What I know...KNOW FOR A FACT is that there hasnt been a terrorist attack here since that day.

The rest is all bla bla bla stfu bullshit.
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kevinpars wrote:George W. Bush gave more terrorists a free ride back to Saudi Arabia on 09/12/2001 than Obama could befriend if he lived to be 100 - and Bush did it with our tax dollars as we sat in our houses and prayed for those who died in the terrorist attacks.

Seven plus years, two wars, thousands of American lives and billions of American dollars later and the chief architect of those attacks is still alive and breathing. Probably laughing his ass off as the stock market drops below 9000.

I guess i am just like W (the president) and see things in black and white: The man who planned the attacks is still alive and his family continues to print money out of oil. American's cut back while the Saudi's buy H2's with pocket change for their teenage sons.

You want a war hero in DC? We had one in Max Cleland. But the Rebublicans thought Saxby Chambliss (who sat out Vietnam with a football injury) was a better choice and swift boated the war hero in the wheelchair. And Chambliss paid Bush pack by rubber stamping everything Bush wanted - including the bailout.

But the massive debt and financial crisis is all Bill Clinton and Nancy Pelosi's fault, right guys?
So I guess you're not voting for W this year? Shame. I really thought he had a chance for another term until you cunningly brought all that up. :)

The good news is that Fantasy Island doesn't have any electoral votes LOL
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RobVarak wrote: So I guess you're not voting for W this year? Shame. I really thought he had a chance for another term until you cunningly brought all that up. :)
Im writing him in!
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JackB1 wrote:
XXXIV wrote:

Whats wrong with you?

Dont you know he owns an Applause Meter 6000?
Nah...I dumped the 6000 for the 9900 a long time ago. :)

Seriously, isn't Philly predominantly Democratic? The party was founded there, wasn't it? Isn't that what you would expect?
The city of Philadelphia is mostly Democrat, but I'd guess based on the demographics at the games I've attended in Philly that the majority of Flyers fans are coming from the more politically diverse white suburbs. However, I wasn't surprised by the boos and probably would have booed too just for "fun" (maybe I have a little Philly in me as a Sixers fan).
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Feanor wrote: At least no one in the crowd suggested she should be killed.
It's quite remarkable how sensitive the Left has gotten about this sort of thing despite basking in 8 years of assassination fantasies about Bush & Cheney. Touching, really.
While I've never been to her blog before, anyone who's inclined to check out MM's entry today can find plenty of evidence apropos of your statement:

http://michellemalkin.com/2008/10/12/cr ... sane-rage/
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GameSeven wrote: While I've never been to her blog before, anyone who's inclined to check out MM's entry today can find plenty of evidence apropos of your statement:

http://michellemalkin.com/2008/10/12/cr ... sane-rage/
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Feanor wrote:Cause the media never reports when Philly crowds do something awful? :lol: You just keep getting funnier and funnier as the election date gets closer.
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kevinpars wrote:George W. Bush gave more terrorists a free ride back to Saudi Arabia on 09/12/2001 than Obama could befriend if he lived to be 100 - and Bush did it with our tax dollars as we sat in our houses and prayed for those who died in the terrorist attacks.
Good post, Kevin.
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Deleted cause I think I got confused by a post with half a dozen quotes in it.
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GTHobbes wrote:
kevinpars wrote:George W. Bush gave more terrorists a free ride back to Saudi Arabia on 09/12/2001 than Obama could befriend if he lived to be 100 - and Bush did it with our tax dollars as we sat in our houses and prayed for those who died in the terrorist attacks.
Good post, Kevin.
Ah, I see. First, Bush sent the real terrorists home, then he unjustly locked up a bunch of fake ones at Gitmo. Except the first group wasn't ACTUALLY real terrorists, they were just fall guys for the Bush Admin's inside job on 9/11.

I am glad that our next president will be chosen by such rational and insightful people.
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FatPitcher wrote:
Ah, I see. First, Bush sent the real terrorists home, then he unjustly locked up a bunch of fake ones at Gitmo. Except the first group wasn't ACTUALLY real terrorists, they were just fall guys for the Bush Admin's inside job on 9/11.

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Close...Very close but no cigar. Bush was the lead terrorist.

EDIT: Good post though :lol: :lol: :lol:
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kevinpars wrote:George W. Bush gave more terrorists a free ride back to Saudi Arabia on 09/12/2001 than Obama could befriend if he lived to be 100 - and Bush did it with our tax dollars as we sat in our houses and prayed for those who died in the terrorist attacks.

Seven plus years, two wars, thousands of American lives and billions of American dollars later and the chief architect of those attacks is still alive and breathing. Probably laughing his ass off as the stock market drops below 9000.

I guess i am just like W (the president) and see things in black and white: The man who planned the attacks is still alive and his family continues to print money out of oil. American's cut back while the Saudi's buy H2's with pocket change for their teenage sons.

You want a war hero in DC? We had one in Max Cleland. But the Rebublicans thought Saxby Chambliss (who sat out Vietnam with a football injury) was a better choice and swift boated the war hero in the wheelchair. And Chambliss paid Bush pack by rubber stamping everything Bush wanted - including the bailout.

But the massive debt and financial crisis is all Bill Clinton and Nancy Pelosi's fault, right guys?
Guys. Instead of mocking, please tell me what exactly isn't true here?

Point #1) Bush gave all of Bin Laden's family members a free ride out of the country after 9/11. What's not true? This is documented fact.

Point #2) 7 years, 2 wars, thousands of US soldiers dead at least 50X more injured, billions of dollars wasted, stock market dropping like a rock, economy in the sh*ter....Again...what's not true?

Point #3) Osama Bin Laded is still alive and the Saudi's continue to rape us for oil. Again...what's false?

Kevin, I wish all of what you are saying was false, but unfortunately it's not. We had the world on our side after 9/11 and "W" told the world to kiss his @ss. Now it's coming back to bite us all in the @ss. Thanks for a great 8 years "W". We'll miss you.
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XXXIV wrote:
What I know...KNOW FOR A FACT is that there hasnt been a terrorist attack here since that day.
There doesn't need to be. The effects of that 9/11 attack continues to reverberate to this day. And let me remind you who's watch the 9/11 attacks came under, since you seem to have forgotten....He's the same guy you are crediting for "protecting" us since then. Bin Laden doesn't need to do anything more. He is laughing at us while we self destruct and nothing makes me sicker to my stomach. We have been our own worst enemy. Once we correct that problem, then maybe we can focus on our enemies.
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kevinpars wrote: But the massive debt and financial crisis is all Bill Clinton and Nancy Pelosi's fault, right guys?
Actually Bill Clinton warned Congress about Freddie and Fanny. Maxine Waters on the other hand,not so much. Man,she really needs to remember her lies. Stephen Moore owned her on Real Time friday night.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=724_1223701479

This must have slipped her mind.


<embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/_MGT_cSi7Rs&hl=en&fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed>

I blame all the blood sucking politician on either side that made money off this bullshit. This was from 07.
http://www.time.com/time/politics/artic ... 63,00.html

How do you think he country feels today?

http://www.pollingreport.com/CongJob1.htm
NBC News/Wall Street Journal Poll conducted by the polling organizations of Peter Hart (D) and Neil Newhouse (R). June 6-9, 2008. N=approx. 500 registered voters nationwide.
RV = registered voters. Except where noted, results below are among all adults.

6/6-9/08 RV

Approve 13%
Disapprove 79%
Unsure 8%

This is the lowest approval for Congress in this poll dating back to 1997. When the Repubs were the majority in Congress, the job approval only went below 20% once, in October of 2006. But since the kids took over, the highest they’ve been able to muster is a 31%, and that was about a month after they took over in early 2007. The last 5 polls have all been below 20%.
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JackB1 wrote:
XXXIV wrote:
What I know...KNOW FOR A FACT is that there hasnt been a terrorist attack here since that day.
There doesn't need to be. The effects of that 9/11 attack continues to reverberate to this day. And let me remind you who's watch the 9/11 attacks came under, since you seem to have forgotten....He's the same guy you are crediting for "protecting" us since then.
Look, if you're going to keep looking backward, at least get some 20/20 lenses to see through. There doesn't need to be?!? What kind of sentiment is that? Who's 'watch' 9/11 happened on? Bill Clinton lamented that it didn't happen on his-he wanted the legacy! The 1990's were a complete setup to 9/11, and, outside of kool aid drinking, there's no real reason to think differently.

But hey...you guys want to live in the past and continue to run against W, fine by me... :)
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Forgetting about all the play by play commentary provided on the screen by whatever yahoo typed it up there, it's interesting to see the reactions of the 'tolerant' left to a group of people simply marching through a neighborhood in support of McCain/Palin:

<embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/nQalRPQ8stI&hl=en&fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed>

And all they want to talk about in the news is the 'hateful' people at McCain rallies. There are nuts in every crowd, but there are several more in this video than you'll find in the McCain rallies... :)
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Both parties (well they actually probably operate outside of the typical left v. right) have their crazies, trying to "judge" the amount of crazy really comes down to what flavor of crazy you dislike more. Ultimately extreme views originate more on emotion than reason and lack evidence to support their claims. Whether it's racists, 9-11 truthers, conspiracy theorists, Evangelical Christians, the uninformed younger Obama supporters or the uninformed older McCain supporters, [insert whatever group you like].

And it's easy to take a video camera and make large groups of people look stupid (debate analysis from Wasilla):
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http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/

They are putting Obama's win percentage at 94.1% at this point. So I guess it's looking good for the socialist/communists out there. And even Bill Kristol agrees:
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/13/opini ... .html?ref=
The Obama team is well organized, flush with resources, and the candidate and the campaign are in sync. The McCain campaign, once merely problematic, is now close to being out-and-out dysfunctional. Its combination of strategic incoherence and operational incompetence has become toxic. If the race continues over the next three weeks to be a conventional one, McCain is doomed.
He even suggests that maybe McCain should run a positive campaign! What a concept that would be, might as well try everything during the last couple of months.
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TheHiddenTrack wrote: He even suggests that maybe McCain should run a positive campaign! What a concept that would be, might as well try everything during the last couple of months.
Neither candidate has been successful in the general election season by being positive, and anyone who tries to be positive is ridiculed for being out of touch with the decidedly negative circumstances and mood of the voters.
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RobVarak wrote:
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FatPitcher wrote: Looks like you were in the minority on that. Or maybe they were booing her daughter, who knows.
At least no one in the crowd suggested she should be killed.
It's quite remarkable how sensitive the Left has gotten about this sort of thing despite basking in 8 years of assassination fantasies about Bush & Cheney. Touching, really.
Also quite ironic considering how they seem to be fine with guys like Ayers and Wright. Ayers' actions actually resulted in the deaths of innocent people, but he seems to be an ok guy :roll:
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kevinpars wrote:But the massive debt and financial crisis is all Bill Clinton and Nancy Pelosi's fault, right guys?
No one here has ever said it's just their fault. The two answers have been either A) It's all Bush's fault or B) It's both parties fault.
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JackB1 wrote:
XXXIV wrote:
What I know...KNOW FOR A FACT is that there hasnt been a terrorist attack here since that day.
There doesn't need to be. The effects of that 9/11 attack continues to reverberate to this day. And let me remind you who's watch the 9/11 attacks came under, since you seem to have forgotten....He's the same guy you are crediting for "protecting" us since then. Bin Laden doesn't need to do anything more. He is laughing at us while we self destruct and nothing makes me sicker to my stomach. We have been our own worst enemy. Once we correct that problem, then maybe we can focus on our enemies.
Maybe you need to be reminded of when the towers were first attacked. They tried to take them down way back in 1993. Who was the president then, and why didn't he get all the terrorists back then?

Isn't part of being our own worst enemy canstantly taking shots at one another instead of uniting against the real enemy? That was good advice you gave there at the end. Maybe you should be taking some of your own advice.
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JackB1 wrote:
kevinpars wrote:George W. Bush gave more terrorists a free ride back to Saudi Arabia on 09/12/2001 than Obama could befriend if he lived to be 100 - and Bush did it with our tax dollars as we sat in our houses and prayed for those who died in the terrorist attacks.
Guys. Instead of mocking, please tell me what exactly isn't true here?

Point #1) Bush gave all of Bin Laden's family members a free ride out of the country after 9/11. What's not true? This is documented fact.
What is not true is that they were terrorists.
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