GTA IV

greggsand · Post by **greggsand** » Thu Apr 24, 2008 3:18 pm

sportdan30 wrote:http://www.joystiq.com/2007/05/02/xbox- ... of-gta-iv/

Yes, the 360 does have limitations.

lol, what are they? it doesn't say there's any differences in the actual game.

EDIT:I just noticed the date of the story is May 2nd 2007.

Rodster · Post by **Rodster** » Thu Apr 24, 2008 3:22 pm

sportdan30 wrote:http://www.joystiq.com/2007/05/02/xbox- ... of-gta-iv/

Yes, the 360 does have limitations.

LOL and so does the PS3.

"However, don't forget that right now the larger storage leads to longer load times, with the PS3 taking longer than the 360, due to the Blu-ray drive."

I have both systems but i'm getting the 360 version.

greggsand · Post by **greggsand** » Thu Apr 24, 2008 3:24 pm

Rodster wrote:
sportdan30 wrote:http://www.joystiq.com/2007/05/02/xbox- ... of-gta-iv/

Yes, the 360 does have limitations.
LOL and so does the PS3.

"However, don't forget that right now the larger storage leads to longer load times, with the PS3 taking longer than the 360, due to the Blu-ray drive."

I have both systems but i'm getting the 360 version.

Notice the date of the story, it's a year old. good times...

sportdan30 · Post by **sportdan30** » Thu Apr 24, 2008 4:50 pm

And as you can see, the differences are minimal. If the only thing media can point to is the blu-ray, then we needn't worry about which version we purchase. I hardly think one version is superior over the other. I don't care about online play, so perhaps that is why I make that opinion. DLC is great, but if the game is already 40 plus hours long, how much DLC do I really need?

sportdan30 · Post by **sportdan30** » Thu Apr 24, 2008 4:53 pm

Per Rockstar Games founder Sam Houser:

“Both machines are absolutely fantastic, but they both come with strengths and weaknesses.”

“Getting things running on the PS3 initially was challenging. I think it was challenging for a lot of companies, but it’s also a machine where, now that we’ve got comfortable with it — I don’t want to say we’ve cracked it, but we’ve got comfortable with it — we know we can make our games.”

“We’re at a point now where the games pretty much look identical side by side. There’s a slight difference in the way they look. I think that’s to do with really low-level technical stuff that I’m not the guy to explain.”

“The 360 games have a certain look to them; PS3 games have a certain look to them. I like the way [the PS3] renders. There’s a certain kind of softness without being blurry — some warmth to it — and then there’s a certain more clinical element to how the 360 looks. Both have plusses and minuses. As far as I’m concerned, they’re neck and neck now.”

Danimal · Post by **Danimal** » Thu Apr 24, 2008 4:55 pm

sportdan30 wrote:I don't care about online play, so perhaps that is why I make that opinion. DLC is great, but if the game is already 40 plus hours long, how much DLC do I really need?

If you don't care about that stuff then you're right. If i didn't care about online play i would get it for my PS3. My 360 isn't sounding so great lately and I don't plan on replacing it until I know there are reliable units on the shelf.

But I do care about online play and so that ends the discussion. Live is the only trump card the 360 has left, considering what Home will end up being they won't be threated anytime soon though. However their shoddy hardware and bad support will have an impact on my future decision around 2010 when the next next gen comes around.

greggsand · Post by **greggsand** » Thu Apr 24, 2008 5:42 pm

I'm more pumped for the online than the off - every multiplayer preview has been gushing. It's next logical leap in the series.

I imagine both versions will be pretty much the same (offline).

JRod · Post by **JRod** » Thu Apr 24, 2008 7:31 pm

greggsand wrote:I'm more pumped for the online than the off - every multiplayer preview has been gushing. It's next logical leap in the series.

I imagine both versions will be pretty much the same (offline).

I just don't see how this will be as good as some of the other great online games.

COD4 really was just a online game with an offline component. GTA4 is going to have to offer both.

Maybe they will refine the shooting because it going to feel sloppy and not very accurate. Just from previews it reminds me WarHawk for the PS3.

I think the coop campaign will be good. But I don't know how well the free for all mode will work.

sportdan30 · Post by **sportdan30** » Thu Apr 24, 2008 9:10 pm

It's their first attempt at online with the GTA series. For that reason, I don't think it's going to be anything ground breaking, but it should be a nice diversion from the single player mode. As I said, I don't game online much at all, but a game like this interests me more than a game such as Halo 3. I'll at least try it and see what it brings to the table.

It has the potential to be very fun, but it wouldn't surprise me if it fell a little short being the first attempt at online.

JRod · Post by **JRod** » Thu Apr 24, 2008 10:58 pm

sportdan30 wrote:It's their first attempt at online with the GTA series. For that reason, I don't think it's going to be anything ground breaking, but it should be a nice diversion from the single player mode. As I said, I don't game online much at all, but a game like this interests me more than a game such as Halo 3. I'll at least try it and see what it brings to the table.

It has the potential to be very fun, but it wouldn't surprise me if it fell a little short being the first attempt at online.

I guess my hesitation over GTA4 is that online multiplayer games usually have to be shooters to be successful. GTA has never been a shooter and it's shooting mechanics were pretty basic. I just don't see how it will translate to online play.

greggsand · Post by **greggsand** » Fri Apr 25, 2008 2:18 am

I don't know. Rockstar made a ping pong game fun online. I don't really think of GTA as a shooter(though it does have a cover system now), but more of a 'havoc-free roam' game. That's what makes it interesting to see how it works. I'm not expecting Rainbow 6.

Also, the racing modes sound (see halo 'rocket race') is a demolition derby kinda way...

JRod · Post by **JRod** » Fri Apr 25, 2008 5:16 am

greggsand wrote:I don't know. Rockstar made a ping pong game fun online. I don't really think of GTA as a shooter(though it does have a cover system now), but more of a 'havoc-free roam' game. That's what makes it interesting to see how it works. I'm not expecting Rainbow 6.

Also, the racing modes sound (see halo 'rocket race') is a demolition derby kinda way...

Ya I guess, I just don't know how the free roaming will work in MP. Personally I don't see it.

At IGN they have a few previews of modes and from what I read, they only ones that interest me are coop, free roam and the one where you take strategic locations.

I hope GTA4 is less linear in the story line. The missions are wide open but the story is as linear as you can get. I haven't seen anything that says they changed that formula.

Teal · Post by **Teal** » Fri Apr 25, 2008 7:59 am

JRod wrote:
greggsand wrote:I don't know. Rockstar made a ping pong game fun online. I don't really think of GTA as a shooter(though it does have a cover system now), but more of a 'havoc-free roam' game. That's what makes it interesting to see how it works. I'm not expecting Rainbow 6.

Also, the racing modes sound (see halo 'rocket race') is a demolition derby kinda way...
Ya I guess, I just don't know how the free roaming will work in MP. Personally I don't see it.

At IGN they have a few previews of modes and from what I read, they only ones that interest me are coop, free roam and the one where you take strategic locations.

I hope GTA4 is less linear in the story line. The missions are wide open but the story is as linear as you can get. I haven't seen anything that says they changed that formula.

Crackdown was a blast online, and that was only with two people. It's not just about shooting stuff...it's about lots of friends in a wide open world, able to do whatever you want, that appeals to me the most. The gametypes look to be great, but the ability to just create your own crazy games will be the kicker for me...

Rodster · Post by **Rodster** » Fri Apr 25, 2008 6:56 pm

IGN gives GTA IV a 10/10.

http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/869/869381p1.html

http://ps3.ign.com/articles/869/869541p1.html

Murph · Post by **Murph** » Fri Apr 25, 2008 7:03 pm

Here's the video review. Maybe it's because the reviewer is so high on the game, but I am just so damn 'giddy', especially about the mutli-player part.

http://xbox360.ign.com/dor/objects/8270 ... 42508.html

Macca00 · Post by **Macca00** » Fri Apr 25, 2008 7:13 pm

From the IGN review;

"For those wanting to know which version looks better, the edge goes to the PS3. The textures and framerate are comparable, but the PS3 has far less pop-in. The 360 has richer colors, but the PS3 has better anti-aliasing making it look a little cleaner. Because GTA IV can preload onto the PS3 hard drive, the in-game loads are faster. Don't worry Xbox owners, the load times are rarely more than 30 seconds and don't occur very often. The slight visual edge goes to PS3, but the 360 is no slouch. Either version will do you proud."

I'm still getting the 360 version because of Live but it's interesting to see a 3rd party game that actually looks better on the PS3 (finally).

dbdynsty25 · Post by **dbdynsty25** » Fri Apr 25, 2008 7:34 pm

Rarely more than 30 seconds...holy crap, 30 seconds is a LONG time for a console.

I guess I'm keeping my PS3 version. ONE, my Xbox Live doesn't work and they are less than helpful in getting it fixed, TWO, I'm afraid it's gonna blow up at any moment, and THREE, 30 seconds or more of loading timon the 360? Wow.

XXXIV · Post by **XXXIV** » Fri Apr 25, 2008 7:43 pm

dbdynsty25 wrote:Rarely more than 30 seconds...holy crap, 30 seconds is a LONG time for a console.

I guess I'm keeping my PS3 version. ONE, my Xbox Live doesn't work and they are less than helpful in getting it fixed, TWO, I'm afraid it's gonna blow up at any moment, and THREE, 30 seconds or more of loading timon the 360? Wow.

Does that mean the PS3 load times are ZERO seconds ????...or somewhere between 0 and 30?

If the PS3 version has ZERO load time versus 30 seconds Im switching my preorder and picking up the PS3 version. Now if its in the 20 second range it doesnt mean s***. Just gives me more time to piss.

dbdynsty25 · Post by **dbdynsty25** » Fri Apr 25, 2008 7:45 pm

Well I seriously doubt it's 0...but i'm expecting a few seconds...up to about 10. 30 seconds is a hellova long time in a game like GTA. Pop-in is a pretty big deal too but obviously not a deal breaker by any means.

XXXIV · Post by **XXXIV** » Fri Apr 25, 2008 7:48 pm

dbdynsty25 wrote:Well I seriously doubt it's 0...but i'm expecting a few seconds...up to about 10. 30 seconds is a hellova long time in a game like GTA. .

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I agree...30 seconds is a long time...I just wonder about how much shorter the PS3 load times are and maybe even more importantly how often and when the loads take place.

EDIT: It is nice to have a choice

Rodster · Post by **Rodster** » Fri Apr 25, 2008 7:51 pm

One thing you guys failed to mention is that the review states that those 30 second load times don't happen often. It does happen but not enough to piss you off.

IMO the 360 load times is probably due to the 360 Arcade version not having a hard drive.

greggsand · Post by **greggsand** » Fri Apr 25, 2008 7:56 pm

30secs when & where? big whoop.

the multiplayer in the video review looks AWESOME! "even there wan't a single player, it would worth buying for the multiplayer alone". sweet

10spro · Post by **10spro** » Fri Apr 25, 2008 8:24 pm

Macca00 wrote:From the IGN review;

"For those wanting to know which version looks better, the edge goes to the PS3. The textures and framerate are comparable, but the PS3 has far less pop-in. The 360 has richer colors, but the PS3 has better anti-aliasing making it look a little cleaner. Because GTA IV can preload onto the PS3 hard drive, the in-game loads are faster. Don't worry Xbox owners, the load times are rarely more than 30 seconds and don't occur very often. The slight visual edge goes to PS3, but the 360 is no slouch. Either version will do you proud."

I'm still getting the 360 version because of Live but it's interesting to see a 3rd party game that actually looks better on the PS3 (finally).

Hmmm, quite interesting. Although Live has a definite edge, I think there's a fair bunch here and there with PS3's. Based on the report I am edging now for the PS3, anyone else? If not, I'll switch back to the 360.

Murph · Post by **Murph** » Fri Apr 25, 2008 8:45 pm

I don't have a PS3 yet, so 360 for me. Don't forget about the DLC later on.

LAking · Post by **LAking** » Fri Apr 25, 2008 10:28 pm

I'm tempted by the PS3 but I just can't see multiplayer being the same. barely anyone uses voice chat on the PS3. The cops and robbers mode sounds like it would be best with plenty of communication.