What are your plans for making sure you get a PS3 friday?

bdunn13 · Post by **bdunn13** » Mon Nov 13, 2006 5:02 pm

webdanzer wrote:Is anyone here going to go looking for one to keep at launch ?

I will be getting one when the market settles down some.

I considered picking up a PS3 to sell it, but I honestly didn't want to risk being stuck with a machine that I had no use for.

There is no risk. Just return it to the store for a full refund. Selling high demand consoles like this is the closest thing we will ever have to a legal money tree.

wco81 · Post by **wco81** » Mon Nov 13, 2006 5:34 pm

I don't ebay but I might do Craigslist.

Otherwise, I will keep it.

But that's only if I can find one without camping out. If not on launch day, then probably will see if new shipments show up.

Badgun · Post by **Badgun** » Mon Nov 13, 2006 5:38 pm

webdanzer wrote:Is anyone here going to go looking for one to keep at launch ?

I'm getting one to play. I am first at my Gamestop and I have no desire to sell it whatsoever. Now if I knew I could get 2, you can bet the second one would be on Ebay before you could say "Sony".

I'm a gadget nut. I pretty much have to have everything as soon as it comes out. On that note, I'll be picking up my Zune tomorrow.

wco81 · Post by **wco81** » Mon Nov 13, 2006 5:44 pm

Disposable income.

Leebo33 · Post by **Leebo33** » Mon Nov 13, 2006 5:46 pm

ScoopBrady wrote:Leebo, did you find a 360 on launch day at Cost Co?

No, Scoop. It was like 2 weeks later.

Gamecocks625 · Post by **Gamecocks625** » Mon Nov 13, 2006 7:40 pm

I'll walk into Gamestop at 10am and pick one up. I only waited one hour to pre-order it.

Then, to Ebay it will go. Hopefully, the profit will turn into a small vacation fund with the wife.

Spooky · Post by **Spooky** » Mon Nov 13, 2006 8:20 pm

Just an FYI guys...

I was just talking to the manager at the EB I work part-time at and he mentioned they got a memo today that they entire EB/Gamestop company is going to be short 40% of their initial launch units. So basically the last 40% of people that pre-ordered on that first pre-order morning will not be getting launch systems. That is what I was told about an hour ago so you might wan to call your local EB/Gamesop and confirm.

I hope this information is correct as I don't want to cause a panic, but I figured I would mention it.

MUTTS · Post by **MUTTS** » Mon Nov 13, 2006 8:23 pm

How does the supply/demand of the PS3 compare to the PS2. I preordered the PS2 in June and paid it off over the next few months. On launch night, I was stuck in the hospital pretending to save lives so my wife went to the mall where there was a ton of hype. She grabbed the system for me--had to wait roughly 1 hour. Only those who had paid in full were able to get one. A member of the Syracuse basketball team offered to buy it off her. One month later I was able to get a 2nd unit for my brothers Xmas gift. I still have the launch unit. Although I sold my xbox for good cash when I picked up my 360 a few months back, I still have the PS2. I'm reluctant to sell it as it was my launch day unit although I have really no need for it. The funny thing is, I save nothing for sentimental reasons.

As for my getting flamed with the modest profit on the 360, it was just 1 or two guys and it certainly wasnt anything to get worked up over. I know for a fact PK defended me and I think Bdunn did too. Makes me smile thinking back on it....

Tony

wco81 · Post by **wco81** » Mon Nov 13, 2006 8:32 pm

You would think at double the price of the PS2 (in nominal dollars), the demand would be less.

But you had people camping out for preorders. You couldn't go in and put your name on the preorder list.

Although they've cut back on their original shipments, there's some expectation that they will launch with more units than the X360 and be able to replenish more frequently before the end of the year than the X360.

If supply is better than expected, or better than the X360 was at least, those eBay auctions may not reach the levels many expect.

But beyond the early adopter gamers, there seems to be some interest from AV enthusiast types, as it's getting good early reviews for the Blu-Ray movie playback capability.

DivotMaker · Post by **DivotMaker** » Mon Nov 13, 2006 8:35 pm

wco81 wrote: Although they've cut back on their original shipments, there's some expectation that they will launch with more units than the X360 and be able to replenish more frequently before the end of the year than the X360.

Not when it is being widely reported that they are facing continuous shortages of the blue diode parts for the BR unit.

Diablo25 · Post by **Diablo25** » Mon Nov 13, 2006 9:32 pm

wco81 wrote: But beyond the early adopter gamers, there seems to be some interest from AV enthusiast types, as it's getting good early reviews for the Blu-Ray movie playback capability.

For what its worth, I'm hearing good things about the HD DVD Drive for the 360 also.

Danimal · Post by **Danimal** » Mon Nov 13, 2006 10:02 pm

wco81 wrote:Although they've cut back on their original shipments, there's some expectation that they will launch with more units than the X360 and be able to replenish more frequently before the end of the year than the X360.

Where are you getting that information, that is contrary to everything I have read.

Teal · Post by **Teal** » Mon Nov 13, 2006 10:47 pm

webdanzer wrote:Is anyone here going to go looking for one to keep at launch ?

If the Console Fairy drops one on my front porch, I may keep it...

DivotMaker · Post by **DivotMaker** » Mon Nov 13, 2006 11:17 pm

Diablo25 wrote: For what its worth, I'm hearing good things about the HD DVD Drive for the 360 also.

Also being reported that the 360 HD-DVD can work with PC's....

http://www.engadgethd.com/2006/11/12/xb ... ng-on-pcs/

Kazuya · Post by **Kazuya** » Mon Nov 13, 2006 11:56 pm

wco81 wrote: If supply is better than expected, or better than the X360 was at least, those eBay auctions may not reach the levels many expect.

I find it hard to believe that everyone who puts a PS3 on eBay is going to hit the jackpot. There really weren't that many 360s on eBay last fall, as most of the people who bought one were gamers who wanted the system. Yeah, you would hear people sell when they found out how much they were going for, but the general intent for the average 360 buyer was that they wanted the thing. That's not the case at all in Japan... businessmen went so far as to hire poor Chinese and homeless people to stand in lines and get systems. There was an unnaturally low software attach rate for the PS3, because Chinese immigrants who couldn't even speak Japanese were politely declining to buy software (why bother, it's plentiful), walking down the street and placing the PS3 in a truck, and then collecting their payment.
It's going to be the same in the U.S., since people who don't even care about video games think that the PS3 is some kind of damn Wonka ticket. There is going to be a huge amount of these things on eBay, way, WAY more than there were 360s. And the 360 market was dead by Christmas, as I know a guy who scored two premiums last year and only was able to unload them for around $450 at the most.

Interesting read, for those who haven't seen it...

http://www.kotaku.com/gaming/top/foreig ... 214130.php

wco81 · Post by **wco81** » Tue Nov 14, 2006 12:10 am

Danimal wrote:
wco81 wrote:Although they've cut back on their original shipments, there's some expectation that they will launch with more units than the X360 and be able to replenish more frequently before the end of the year than the X360.
Where are you getting that information, that is contrary to everything I have read.

At AVS. Someone said X360 was like 350k and launch and the PS3 is suppose to be 400k in North America.

Supposedly Sony is targeting up to 2 million by the end of the year, with 100k each week.

We'll see.

Those numbers should still be higher than the PS2 and those trickled in the weeks following launch. It was possible to get them.

bdunn13 · Post by **bdunn13** » Tue Nov 14, 2006 1:03 am

The PS3 is going for around 1500 now on Ebay. I expect that to go up slightly when people have it in hand. The normal gamers are different from the people that post here. Most people think of the Playstation when it comes to consoles. I also recall ALOT of 360s on ebay last year.. The demand will obviously be the key. The sooner you can get the thing on ebay, the more money you will make.

Dave · Post by **Dave** » Tue Nov 14, 2006 9:29 am

wco81 wrote:At AVS. Someone said X360 was like 350k and launch and the PS3 is suppose to be 400k in North America.

Supposedly Sony is targeting up to 2 million by the end of the year, with 100k each week.

We'll see.

Considering Gamestop/EB has had to call people to let them know they aren't getting as many systems as they expected, I don't think they're going to hit the 400k for launch. Apparently Best Buy still has no idea about the quantities they'll be getting for Friday, another bad sign.

That leads me to question that 100k/week figure they've been using.

The software attach rate is pitiful and I bet the US rate isn't much better.

DivotMaker · Post by **DivotMaker** » Tue Nov 14, 2006 9:36 am

The CompUSA in my area (Houston) where I bought my 360 had 30 Premiums and 6 Core systems on launch day.

The manager told me that he is getting one PS3 unit of each ($599 and $499) for launch day. I asked why and he said they originally ordered 30 of the $599 and 20 of the $499 and the Sony rep laughed when he heard the request.

jimd · Post by **jimd** » Tue Nov 14, 2006 10:56 am

I am pretty late to the party, but why the apathy towards the PS3 around here?

Price? Everyone already has the 360? Not a good product?

And I've seen many posts critical of Sony's marketing approach. What's the deal with that? Are they lying about their product?

I only ask because I am up in the air about what do next. I still have my xbox and am pretty happy with it for my limited amount of gaming; but I probably will eventually go next-gen and would like to make an informed choice. (Man I am getting old.)

(I actually had a 360 for about a month, but it never came out of the box--no time and was worried about all the problems people were having.)

Kazuya · Post by **Kazuya** » Tue Nov 14, 2006 11:04 am

jimd wrote:I am pretty late to the party, but why the apathy towards the PS3 around here?

Price? Everyone already has the 360? Not a good product?

And I've seen many posts critical of Sony's marketing approach. What's the deal with that? Are they lying about their product?

I only ask because I am up in the air about what do next. I still have my xbox and am pretty happy with it for my limited amount of gaming; but I probably will eventually go next-gen and would like to make an informed choice. (Man I am getting old.)

(I actually had a 360 for about a month, but it never came out of the box--no time and was worried about all the problems people were having.)

Most of the people on this board bought the 360 as soon or very soon after it came out, and also had Xboxs in the last gen so a lot of indifference here. Not a lot of people want to shell out a thousand bucks or more for the privelege of having two consoles either. The PS3 should be a strong system with a varied library once it gets going. As for the negatives, there's a predictable, broken record who should be chiming in any second with a long list of negatives for you...

pk500 · Post by **pk500** » Tue Nov 14, 2006 11:06 am

Price here. No other reason. Then again, at $600, I don't think any other reason is necessary!

Kaz makes a good point about timing, too. The 360 has been very well-received other than its reliability woes.

The recent deluge of quality new releases for the 360 also has dampened enthusiasm for the PS3, further proving what's truly important in this hobby -- IT'S THE GAMES, DAMN IT!

There's one other aspect concerning the apathy over the PS3 around here that is being overlooked, I think. Equity.

We see posts and stories both here and around the Web about how Sony has the equity market locked up with the PlayStation brand name. Well, I think Microsoft is making good inroads with name equity.

The Xbox name has been around for five years, and I don't know anyone who had an original Xbox who disliked it or thought it wasn't a machine with some innovations and a SUPERB online gaming service, me included. People also are pretty loyal to and like their 360s, so I think there's a higher equity tide for MS than Sony would like to believe.

Sony still has the PlayStation name, but at least the name "Xbox" enters the equation prominently now in any serious discussion among loyal gamers. MS has proven that it's here to stay.

Take care,
PK

DivotMaker · Post by **DivotMaker** » Tue Nov 14, 2006 11:09 am

jimd wrote:I am pretty late to the party, but why the apathy towards the PS3 around here?

Price? Everyone already has the 360? Not a good product?

And I've seen many posts critical of Sony's marketing approach. What's the deal with that? Are they lying about their product?

I only ask because I am up in the air about what do next. I still have my xbox and am pretty happy with it for my limited amount of gaming; but I probably will eventually go next-gen and would like to make an informed choice. (Man I am getting old.)

(I actually had a 360 for about a month, but it never came out of the box--no time and was worried about all the problems people were having.)

If you are not in a hurry, I would wait for a few months to see how things shake out between the 360 and PS3. Personally, I don't think you could possibly go wrong with either system regardless of price.

As far as Sony's marketing, I am not going to say they are "lying" per se, but they made a number of grandiose statements during E3 aimed directly at the shortcomings that the 360 had with their launch and most of those statements have come back to bite Sony in the @ss. Their whole attitude has bothered me as they refuse to let the machine speak for itself which tells me they are VERY concerned about how well MS and the 360 have penetrated the next-gen market. Sony realizes they are behind the 8 ball this go round as they are 6 months to a year late to market with a product with a PREMIUM price and little to no real advantage either in hardware capability nor exclusive games like the PS2 did. I think Sony is in for a rude awakening and I hope they get hit in the mouth with it, wake up, and start acting like a company with some genuine confidence instead of fearful arrogance....

DivotMaker · Post by **DivotMaker** » Tue Nov 14, 2006 11:14 am

Kazuya wrote:As for the negatives, there's a predictable, broken record who should be chiming in any second with a long list of negatives for you...

As you posted link after link as if you worked for Kaz Hirai, I refused to comment on any of them out of respect for your opinion and feelings toward Sony and the PS3.

Then you post stupid sh1t like the comment above. WTF is wrong with you? Why can't you leave your personal BULLSH1T out of these discussions?

jimd · Post by **jimd** » Tue Nov 14, 2006 11:29 am

pk500 wrote:The 360 has been very well-received other than its reliability woes.

The reliability is what worries me about the 360. I game for about 4 hours a week--late night after kids and wife are asleep. I never want to worry about my machine not working when I get that hour or two to play--especially if I have spent $400 on said machine. I just want to fire it up and play--no worries.

Thanks for the input. Keep it coming. I have absolutely no personal feelings towards Sony or Microsoft or Nintendo for that matter. I could care less how they all sell, etc. I honestly just like reading about these things and hopefully will buy one eventually.