Racing Sim Thread

TCrouch · Post by **TCrouch** » Tue Sep 19, 2006 10:18 am

I'm actually playing it too, and I think the cars are easier to drive with the assists off than the first one. I get butter-smooth framerate, and my machine is an upper-mid-level system at this point in time I think. I love the driving school. You unlock "Custom" championships as you go through the training sessions one by one. I've unlocked like 10 of them so far in addition to the standard GTR FIA 2003 and 2004 seasons that come stock with the game.

Pretty ridiculously good first impressions.

wpw721 · Post by **wpw721** » Tue Sep 19, 2006 11:45 am

TCrouch wrote:I get butter-smooth framerate, and my machine is an upper-mid-level system at this point in time I think.

I am looking into purchasing a reasonably priced system that will run GTR 2 and R factor, what are your specs? Any info/help appreciated.

TCrouch · Post by **TCrouch** » Tue Sep 19, 2006 12:13 pm

wpw721 wrote:
TCrouch wrote:I get butter-smooth framerate, and my machine is an upper-mid-level system at this point in time I think.
I am looking into purchasing a reasonably priced system that will run GTR 2 and R factor, what are your specs? Any info/help appreciated.

AMD Athlon64 4000+, 2GB of RAM, and a Radeon X850...nothing all-world, but upper middle of the pack, I would guess.

Nozzleman_216 · Post by **Nozzleman_216** » Tue Sep 19, 2006 2:23 pm

Terry's machine is a pretty nice gaming rig IMO, If anything the GPU is holding him back now, with all the new cars that have come out in the last few months.

I have a model below his X700 pro and it runs all 3 games reasonably.

On a side note to update about fps and gtr2, I have since been experimenting with race weekend and season and my frames are half what I get in open practice. I know there is some more stuff going on but HALF the fps. Also when it rains I am getting very MINIMAL loss in FPS. I am not sure what the deal is when its race weekend LOL.

I am still liking it a lot and yes, the drving schools are damn fun. Its so addicting I HAVE to get gold on them all LOL.

dbdynsty25 · Post by **dbdynsty25** » Tue Sep 19, 2006 2:33 pm

Terry's rig is middle nowdays with mine slightly below that. There are some ridiculous machines out there today. It's just crazy...two years ago when I built my rig it was top of the line...now it's peanuts. My video card is definitely the bottleneck right now, but I'm not willing to invest in a whole new processor and motherboard since my current stuff is fairly decent (AMD 64 3500+). My X800 Pro is on it's last legs in terms of performance though, so I'll probably have to upgrade to dual core this fall/winter...and then I can replace the video card as well.

And I'm on my way out to Fry's to see if I can find GTR2.

Nozzleman_216 · Post by **Nozzleman_216** » Tue Sep 19, 2006 3:33 pm

goodluck finding it DB. EB and Gamestop have changed their release dates today to the 22nd. A few guys I race with called Fryes in Texas and Ca with no luck.

Gangrel · Post by **Gangrel** » Tue Sep 19, 2006 5:24 pm

Hey, don't insult the X800 Pro.......

Times like this I wish i had an office for the computer and a big desk to keep my Momo wheel out all the time. Right now our computer is in the bedroom, and I'm usually too lazy to go to the closet and dig out the wheel to play, and then put it back after.......

dbdynsty25 · Post by **dbdynsty25** » Tue Sep 19, 2006 5:35 pm

Yeah, I can't find it anywhere, so I'm probably just going to order it online from somewhere. Oh well...only hit up 2 Fry's, a Best Buy, a Circuit City and 3 EB Games. I really need to learn how to use the phone.

DChaps · Post by **DChaps** » Tue Sep 19, 2006 6:59 pm

dbdynsty25 wrote:Yeah, I can't find it anywhere, so I'm probably just going to order it online from somewhere. Oh well...only hit up 2 Fry's, a Best Buy, a Circuit City and 3 EB Games. I really need to learn how to use the phone.

I am pretty much in the same boat. 1 Fry's, 2 EB's, 1 Best Buy = no luck, and I have the game on pre-order from GoGamer. For the first time ever, they have seemingly failed me.

After receving noticed that it had been shipped (I had next day delivery), I am finding no further information from them at this point. Oh well.

PS - Terry and SEMINOLE where did you guys find the game already?

According to a well know poster from CA on RSC:

slider916 wrote:Just returned from Best Buy in my area and they have lots in stock.

$19.99 pretty cheap too.

It's on 2 CDs too and not DVD..Not exactly the smartest way of putting the online code on a sticker that's on the plastic tearoff to be thrown away.

I can see alot of online codes being lost this way.

I've got to cancel my GoGamer order if its really $19.99 at Best Buy. With shipping my GoGamer order was going to be almost twice as much. Once again my impatience gets the better of me (what a dumass)

TCrouch · Post by **TCrouch** » Tue Sep 19, 2006 7:29 pm

DChaps wrote:PS - Terry and SEMINOLE where did you guys find the game already?

You really don't want to know. I'm impatient

Nozzleman_216 · Post by **Nozzleman_216** » Tue Sep 19, 2006 10:40 pm

TCrouch wrote:
DChaps wrote:PS - Terry and SEMINOLE where did you guys find the game already?
You really don't want to know. I'm impatient

same here, and it will be gone when I go to Best Buy tomorrow or Thursday.

TCrouch · Post by **TCrouch** » Tue Sep 19, 2006 10:41 pm

Exactly. As soon as I find it, then I can be a good little boy. Waiting is the part I can't stand.

DChaps · Post by **DChaps** » Wed Sep 20, 2006 7:42 am

==============================
rFactor
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NIPPON Racing v1.2

http://www.rfactorcentral.com/detail.cf ... N%20Racing

http://forum.rscnet.org/showthread.php?p=3199987

Also, Jason6787 has just released

Watkins Glen v2.0 for rFactor

http://www.rfactorcentral.com/detail.cf ... ins%20Glen

http://forum.rscnet.org/showthread.php? ... ost3200592

I'm proud to announce the release of Watkins Glen V2. This is Watkins Glen with all 3 track layouts. I hope you all enjoy this as much as, or more than, V1. The track was originally done by RSDG for F1C, and was also converted to GTR by GMilno. Feel free to post any issues here, I will try to take a look at them. There likely will be no further development done on this track, except for crucial bug/fix issues.

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GTR2
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GTR2 MoTeC i2 Pro Beginners Guide by Daniel Roberts

http://www.blimeygames.com/download.php

http://forum.rscnet.org/showthread.php?t=260894

They now have an official GTR2 Time Trails web site here:

http://www.gtr2-timetrials.com/

http://forum.rscnet.org/showthread.php?t=267205

I don't know if this will really replace GTR Rank, but pretty cool nonetheless.

Here are some converted tracks from GTL for GTR2 (You must have GTL for these to work)

GTL Mondello Park for GTR2 Full V2.0
http://forum.rscnet.org/showthread.php?t=267360

GTL Dijon-Prenois for GTR2 Full V1.0
http://forum.rscnet.org/showthread.php?t=267361

GTL Zolder for GTR2 Full V1.0
http://forum.rscnet.org/showthread.php?t=267364

Also, if you want to run GTR2 tracks in GTL, here is the info for that:

http://forum.rscnet.org/showpost.php?p= ... ostcount=8

DChaps · Post by **DChaps** » Fri Sep 22, 2006 9:18 pm

Well, just when I thought I would not be going back to rfactor for some time due to the excellence that is GTR2, Team ORSM go and release V8Factor v1.0 along with scratch built Bathurst.

http://www.rfactorcentral.com/series_de ... D=V8Factor
http://www.v8gaming.com/
http://forum.rscnet.org/showthread.php?t=267708

A scratch built Aussie series containing Australian race cars and tracks. The initial 1.0 release includes a scratch built Bathurst track as well as the V8 Supercars 2006 series.

The Bathurst track includes night lights, team garages, jumbo TVs, Brock tribute banners, a kickass dipper and a whole lot more.

Features:

• Accurately modelled Ford Falcon BA & Holden Commodore VZ
• Includes realistically modelled Bathurst track (more tracks released in future)
• Detailed vehicle interiors including drivers with detailed suits and helmets, roll cage etc.
• Upgrades including cockpit customisations, wheels, etc.
• Damage model including parts that fall off
• 2006 season with accurate liveries, drivers etc.
• Full grid multiplayer and single player racing
• Online racing through built in lobby as well as 3rd party utils
• Championship mode
• Realistically modelled cockpits including switches and wires, working readouts, roll cage etc.
• Realistically modelled steering wheels (including built-in readouts)
• Menu graphics and load screens
• Extremely accurate vehicle physics based on data and feedback from real V8 teams
• Optimised AI including driver temperaments and skills
• Future V8 Track releases include: Albert Park; Wanneroo (Barbagello); Adelaide; Queensland Raceway; Hidden Valley; Pukekohe; Surfers Paradise; Winton

dbdynsty25 · Post by **dbdynsty25** » Fri Sep 22, 2006 9:37 pm

Still haven't found GTR2...anyone else find a place to get it?

pigpen81 · Post by **pigpen81** » Fri Sep 22, 2006 11:50 pm

DB...Frye's has it advertised for $20 this weekend....am going to pick it up tomorrow.

pigpen81 · Post by **pigpen81** » Fri Sep 22, 2006 11:52 pm

DChaps wrote:Well, just when I thought I would not be going back to rfactor for some time due to the excellence that is GTR2, Team ORSM go and release V8Factor v1.0 along with scratch built Bathurst.

http://www.rfactorcentral.com/series_de ... D=V8Factor
http://www.v8gaming.com/
http://forum.rscnet.org/showthread.php?t=267708

A scratch built Aussie series containing Australian race cars and tracks. The initial 1.0 release includes a scratch built Bathurst track as well as the V8 Supercars 2006 series.

The Bathurst track includes night lights, team garages, jumbo TVs, Brock tribute banners, a kickass dipper and a whole lot more.

Features:

• Accurately modelled Ford Falcon BA & Holden Commodore VZ
• Includes realistically modelled Bathurst track (more tracks released in future)
• Detailed vehicle interiors including drivers with detailed suits and helmets, roll cage etc.
• Upgrades including cockpit customisations, wheels, etc.
• Damage model including parts that fall off
• 2006 season with accurate liveries, drivers etc.
• Full grid multiplayer and single player racing
• Online racing through built in lobby as well as 3rd party utils
• Championship mode
• Realistically modelled cockpits including switches and wires, working readouts, roll cage etc.
• Realistically modelled steering wheels (including built-in readouts)
• Menu graphics and load screens
• Extremely accurate vehicle physics based on data and feedback from real V8 teams
• Optimised AI including driver temperaments and skills
• Future V8 Track releases include: Albert Park; Wanneroo (Barbagello); Adelaide; Queensland Raceway; Hidden Valley; Pukekohe; Surfers Paradise; Winton

Thanks Don...they must have just posted this in the last few hours as I was on at 4 Pacific pn R Factor Central and it wasn't there.

I am downloading it now....looks freakin awesome.

R-Factor keeps getting bettter and better.

wpw721 · Post by **wpw721** » Sat Sep 23, 2006 12:55 am

Guys I bought a new computer and when playing GTR 2 my frame rates are not quite where I want them to be. Do I need to upgrade? If yes what should I upgrade my memory or graphics card? Here ar my specs thanks in advance.

hp a1610n

AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual-Core Processor 4200+ ( 2.2 GHz )
512KB+512KB L2 Cache

1GB PC2-4200 DDR2-SDRAM (2x 512MB)

4 Memory Slots (2 open)

NVIDIA GeForce 6150 LE Chipset

Integrated NVIDIA GeForce 6150LE Graphics with up to 256MB of shared memory (memory is taken from the main system)
250GB 7200RPM SATA HDD

Expansion Slots - 3 PCI (2 open) / 1 PCI Express x16 (open)

dbdynsty25 · Post by **dbdynsty25** » Sat Sep 23, 2006 1:53 am

Graphics card, without a doubt. Integrated graphics are always resource hogs. You may also drop in another 1gb of ram to bring the total system ram to 2gb.

DChaps · Post by **DChaps** » Sat Sep 23, 2006 4:54 am

dbdynsty25 wrote:Still haven't found GTR2...anyone else find a place to get it?

Got mine at Best Buy for $19.99 on Wed. - If you want I will pick you up a copy. I cancelled my GoGamer order when they told me they would not have it until next week. Plus it was going to cost me $40 through them.

wpw721 - Definitely the graphics card. Your system is better than mine on every level but graphics card, however, GTR2 runs pretty well for me at 1024x768 with high detail settings (not full). I have a 128mb nvidia 6600GT AGP that would be considered pretty low entry these days. Anything better than that and you should be in good shape.

mixdj1 · Post by **mixdj1** » Sat Sep 23, 2006 11:27 am

Yeah, definitely upgrade the graphics. I picked this card up last week:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6814150182

I can now run the GTR2 demo at 1280x1024 with AA and it's butter smooth. My cpu is a bit below yours (3700+ single core) but the rest of the specs are the same.

That card is going to run anything I want to play until DX10 hardware hits next year along side Vista.

TCrouch · Post by **TCrouch** » Mon Sep 25, 2006 10:59 am

I got the review copy from OperationSports, and hopped online with it this weekend a bit. Bunch of Swedes or something that didn't even speak English, every one of them in the Ferrari 575...and I was in a Saleen. Something I must be missing, I guess

.

DEFINITELY easier to control than GTR. There was 11 guys in the race and I had a solid 3rd, until 2nd spun in front of me and took us both out. What was cool was he pulled off to the side until I passed him and then we went to the line (it was in the last 2 corners of a 5 lap race). I took 4th, but I'm definitely not a hot shoe compared to the GTR online crowd. Code was rock-solid through several races, and I still think the "Online Garage" is the most brilliant piece of code to ever come down the pipe for a racing sim.

The cockpits are gorgeous, the sound rocks, the control is tighter than the already-awesome GTR. This thing is ridiculous. I kind of equate it to Nascar 4 vs Nascar Racing 2003. GTR was hardcore, as was Nascar 4. Yet I refuse to believe that Nascar rides are THAT difficult to drive...it was like driving on ice. NR2003 comes out and "eases up" a bit, and yet makes it more realistic. I think that's what GTR2 has done. They made obvious strides to make it appeal to the less hardcore, but I think in making the driving model a bit more predictable, it may end up with tighter racing all the way around, and no sacrifice in realism.

DChaps · Post by **DChaps** » Mon Sep 25, 2006 11:48 am

Agree with everything you've stated Terry. There are several groups complaining on RSC that it is now too easy, but I always thought GTR was way too difficult for the cars being modeled. Great Nascar 4 vs NR2003 analogy. I saw this funny quote over on bluesnews.com

"Absolutely authentic physics" that's completely different to the "Absolutely authentic physics" they claimed the last one had.
CEO Carlo Voelker commented, "We kind of fooled you before, but this time it's really authentic."

I have not even checked out the "Online Garage" yet. What is it?

I've been busy trying to get a feel for all the different cars in the game. I think there are about 25 different models and hundreds of different liveries. I have been concentrating on one of the new tracks , Zhuhai GP 2004 , which I love the flow of. So far I have done hot laps with 15 of the cars there. All the times suck, but I love trying out the different handling. All these laps were set with default setups. Download my laps and have a go. Even the worst of you should be able to beat them.

http://www.gtr2-timetrials.com/

TCrouch · Post by **TCrouch** » Mon Sep 25, 2006 12:13 pm

Basically, it's an online setup swapper for people like me who don't want to figure out how to use the tylemetry and all of that. I can go into the "Online File" section of the garage and grab a setup from the servers, all integrated within the game. It's easy to upload and download, so no hunting the web for a setup guru's files. It helped a lot with the 575 alone (not a lot of files there yet, for obvious reasons), as the setup there that somebody had uploaded turned much quicker, had less body roll, and improved my lap time around Hockenheim in the car by about 3 seconds on the first pass.

Every racing sim should have a feature like that. Period.

dbdynsty25 · Post by **dbdynsty25** » Mon Sep 25, 2006 5:06 pm

Finally found a copy at Best Buy...sheesh. Gotta love the 19.99 price tag (along with my reward zone $5 coupon), brings my total to 15 bucks.