OT: NFL offseason thread

[Brando70]

Skins spent alot for that muffler...

LOL.

I do think Randle El will do well in Washington. They overspent but that seems to be the case with the increased cap. Would have liked to have seen him in a Bears uni.

I was more disappointed to see Archuletta pass up Chicago. He would have been a really good fit and insurance if Mike Brown keeps having injury problems.

It's nice to see Arizona getting aggressive with free agents, but who's going to block for James?

The Culpepper deal has a lot of questions, but if his knee heals, he's definitely an upgrade and probably worth the second-round pick.

[vader29]

The Steelers signed safety Ryan Clark from the Redskins to a 4 year deal, looks like Chris Hope is all but gone now.

[Leebo33]

The Steelers signed safety Ryan Clark from the Redskins to a 4 year deal, looks like Chris Hope is all but gone now.

They are going to need a ton of money to keep Troy in a couple years. It's probably wise to save a few bucks at free safety and the dropoff from Hope to Clark, if any, doesn't seem substantial.

BTW, Kimo to the Jets.

[dbdynsty25]

I guess the Dolphins are talking to TO now. Eeesh. If he doesn't destroy the locker room that is one hellova offense. Brown in the backfield, Chambers, TO and McMichael on the wings...and Culpepper at the helm. It's like the Indianapolis Colts South. Or was the Colts now that they have been broken up. Oh yeah, and Vanderjagt was in for a visit making it look even more like the Colts.

Not sure if I'm excited or scared quite yet.

[matthewk]

The 'skins do this every year. They spend like drunken sailors in a whorehouse during free agency, and yet when it comes to the season they can't gell enough to get into the playoffs.

Let Snyder keep throwing money around. Based on the moves they've made so far, I still don't see them as a playoff team.

Did you already forget about them making the playoffs last year? Apparently it works sometimes.

Yes I forgot. Still, all that money for a first round exit 1 year? Still not much to show for all the money they've spent the past few years.

[dbdynsty25]

Yes I forgot. Still, all that money for a first round exit 1 year? Still not much to show for all the money they've spent the past few years.

Tell that to the Knicks and Yankees. There are teams like that in every sport.

[sfz_T-car]

The Redskins are reportedly the most profitable of all NFL franchises. For all their miscues on the field and in the front office, Snyder has built a very efficient revenue generating machine.

They characteristically have been the first to jump on the flexibility of the new cap. They also were able to use the unique case of Arrington case to their advantage. The big question is whether these deals will bite them in the long term when guys like Sean Taylor want their share. A lot is also riding on the development of Jason Campbell at QB.

[SoMisss2000]

The 'skins do this every year. They spend like drunken sailors in a whorehouse during free agency, and yet when it comes to the season they can't gell enough to get into the playoffs.

Let Snyder keep throwing money around. Based on the moves they've made so far, I still don't see them as a playoff team.

Did you already forget about them making the playoffs last year? Apparently it works sometimes.

even a blind squirrel....

[SoMisss2000]

Yes I forgot. Still, all that money for a first round exit 1 year? Still not much to show for all the money they've spent the past few years.

Tell that to the Knicks and Yankees. There are teams like that in every sport.

yes, but the Yankees have managed to win a few. Little Danny wishes he could make the NFC Title game.

[dbdynsty25]

yes, but the Yankees have managed to win a few. Little Danny wishes he could make the NFC Title game.

Not recently...and it's recently that their payroll went into the stratosphere.

[wco81]

Is the Redskins success due to some special acumen?

Or is it just a reflection of all the money we send to the feds?

It wouldn't be surprising if DC has a higher per capita income than Manhattan.

For all we know, he's using the same PSL strategy which is failing for the Raiders (but the Skins have a new stadium) with overpriced luxury boxes which lobbyists are only too happy to buy to entertain our representatives.

Anyways, has Culpepper had a good year without Moss? Even with Moss, he's had some horrible turnover years, hasn't he? Even though he lights up the FF charts.

[dbdynsty25]

The Redskins have a crazy season ticket sales, crazy tv revenue (just like every other team, thanks DirecTV), and ridiculous licensing and apparel revenue. Somehow that equals the best in the league.

[Zeppo]

The Redskins have a crazy season ticket sales, crazy tv revenue (just like every other team, thanks DirecTV), and ridiculous licensing and apparel revenue. Somehow that equals the best in the league.

It's the stadium. Biggest in the league, and the most % of seats that were, at least heretofore (not sure about the new deal) subject to those special surcharges that didn't count towards revenue sharing. That and the merchandise.

But hey, Danny's a jerk, and a real money grubber. What he does know is how to maximize his money making. Every year he adds new seats. Seems like last years' front row shows up to the first game, only to realize they are now row 2. Like 4 years in a row! And then there are those lower bowl seats with 'limited view.' Total BS.

But hey, there isn't a free agent that doesn't leave DC at least tempted with staying, and this last weekend is a new mark even for the Danny in terms of everyone signing. And obviously, that's because he overpays. But that re-structuring piper rears his head all the time, and these deals are supposedly pretty cap-friendly, at least in terms of the older players.

From my point of view, it seems like Gibbs and co. are the ones calling the shots, so I'm not worried. Losing Arrington is a big price to pay as a fan, but he clears up a lot of space.

[JRod]

Arrington while I think a good player was not used to his potential in WAsh. Blams it on Arrington or Wash but its a win-win situtation cutting him.

While the Redkins have spent money they would still be no where if it wasn't for Gibbs they were still be an overrated team with big ticket players that go 7-9. I think the Redskins are still a QB away from winning the big dance. Brunell is decent but he's not the future.

[matthewk]

Yes I forgot. Still, all that money for a first round exit 1 year? Still not much to show for all the money they've spent the past few years.

Tell that to the Knicks and Yankees. There are teams like that in every sport.

I was talking about the Redskins in particular. The Knicks and Yankees have nothing to do with what I was talking about.

[XXXIV]

The Skins won their first rd game... I do agree with your point though.

[Brando70]

These FA signings for Washington seem better than ones in the past. They're not getting former names in the twilight of their careers. They paid a lot for a #2 receiver, but they're getting a hell of a #2 receiver that will take pressure off Moss. I agree with JRod about Arrington, he was more of a great athlete than a great football player. Probably not worth the money he's bound to get. They're probably going to be the favorite to win the NFC East.

[tjung0831]

. I agree with JRod about Arrington, he was more of a great athlete than a great football player. Probably not worth the money he's bound to get.

Trust me, the same can be said about Archuleta.

[Zeppo]

The 'skins do this every year. They spend like drunken sailors in a whorehouse during free agency, and yet when it comes to the season they can't gell enough to get into the playoffs.

Let Snyder keep throwing money around. Based on the moves they've made so far, I still don't see them as a playoff team.

Yes I forgot. Still, all that money for a first round exit 1 year? Still not much to show for all the money they've spent the past few years.

Well, as a Redskins fan, those two playoff games this season that you seem to forget were huge and had been a long time coming. Maybe they weren't important enough playoff games for others, or something, but I remember them well.

The goal now is to win the division (one hopes this season every team in the division will get an equal number of home and away games), and get a playoff game at home.

What big-time free agents did the Skins go after last year? What top players at their position did they target? Gibbs being in charge makes a very big difference as to the offseason strategy of the Skins. Besides paying Moss a multi-year deal that everyone thought was ridiculously out of bounds (in order to move the disgruntled Coles and his bad toe), they didn't do much last offseason except shore things up with depth. This year, the coaches know what areas they need to address, what specific players they want, and the Danny pulls out all the stops and signs 'em up, assist to Gilbert and the Wizards beating the Pistons on the 'boys night out.'

Don't be too enamored of this Archuleta deal; chances are he renegotiates every year (as has Samuels, Thomas, Jansen, etc) to make his cap number more palatable. Now they need help at LB, OL (Dockery is as good as gone if anyone wants to pay him anything), CB and a punter. Losing Clark is a hit, so more depth there, especially depending what happens with Taylor. A big short-yardage back would be nice, too, but that would mean one of the four backs we have now would have to go.

No matter what, the Skins are far better positioned this year than they were going into last year. The whole division should be better again this year, so I think it's really up for grabs.

[bdunn13]

Anyways, has Culpepper had a good year without Moss?

Nope he hasn't. Until proven otherwise, I say Moss made Culpepper.

Even with Moss, he's had some horrible turnover years, hasn't he? Even though he lights up the FF charts.

Yup, too bad the NFL does not use FF numbers to count wins and losses.

First thing I thought of when I heard about this deal was "poor Dolphin fans"

[dbdynsty25]

First thing I thought of when I heard about this deal was "poor Dolphin fans"

He's better than Gus...that's all that counts. Poor us, i know. It was poor us last year when Gus was signed as a starting QB and yet Saban somehow turned the Dolphins into a 9-7 team rather than the 4-12 they were the year before.

[XXXIV]

First thing I thought of when I heard about this deal was "poor Dolphin fans"

He's better than Gus...that's all that counts. Poor us, i know. It was poor us last year when Gus was signed as a starting QB and yet Saban somehow turned the Dolphins into a 9-7 team rather than the 4-12 they were the year before.

Im glad you have found that jug of Dolphin Kool Aide.

Whatever happened to:

Not really sure why anyone would be that excited to get Culpepper. He's show that he's clearly on the way down (that was an awesome season last year) and he's probably not going to be able to play till at least mid-season this year because of his knee. I am hoping the Dolphins don't deal for him. .

Guess He only sux if a team other than the fishies get him?

[dbdynsty25]

I said...he's better than Gus. What part of that means "he's awesome"? Gus is garbage...and Culpepper is an upgrade over him. That's all. I know you just HAVE to find a way to call me out on something, but this is clearly not one of the times. Good attempt though.

[XXXIV]

II know you just HAVE to find a way to call me out on something, but this is clearly not one of the times. Good attempt though.

This is a football thread to discuss football. Thats exactly what I did.

You think far too much of yourself son....besides isnt that your job?..calling people out on anything no matter how trival and ridiculous?

[dbdynsty25]

You think far too much of yourself son....besides isnt that your job?..calling people out on anything no matter how trival and ridiculous?

I'm just gonna go crawl back in the hole with BDoughty...at least he loves me.