MLB Off-season discussion

[jLp vAkEr0]

Delgado to the Mets!

[brendanrfoley]

Beckett and Lowell to the Red Sox!

And now, the Boston Globe is reporting the Sox will move Kelly Shoppach to Texas for Adrian Gonzalez. Sweet!

[dbdynsty25]

Delgado to the Mets!

And they will still finish in the bottom half of the division. Eventually they need to get a pitcher or two.

[lexbur]

BJ Ryan was in town this week, sounds like things went well.

[pigpen81]

Delgado to the Mets!

Ouch, that is not good for my boy Mike Jacobs.

[pigpen81]

Doh....Jacobs is a Marlin now...good for him.

[Sully]

Delgado to the Mets!

Ouch, that is not good for my boy Mike Jacobs.

Jacobs was part of the deal...at least I thought he was.

[nyisles16]

yup it was Jacobs/Yusemiro Petit & the Marlins sending 7 mil to the Mets for Delgado...

[sfz_T-car]

It must be really frustrating to be a Marlins fan. The team periodically blows up the clubhouse and starts over. Although as a Giants fan, I'd probably trade some consistency for one of FLA's WS titles.

[jLp vAkEr0]

Delgado to the Mets!

And they will still finish in the bottom half of the division. Eventually they need to get a pitcher or two.

Top 10 Team ERA 2005
1. St. Louis 3.49
2. Houston 3.51
3. Cleveland 3.61
4. Chicago Sox 3.61
5. LA Angels 3.68
6. Oakland 3.69
7. Minnesota 3.71
8. NY Mets 3.76
9. Washington 3.87
10. Milwaukee 3.97


Picthing wasn't the problem buddy.
At least not starting pitching.

The bullpen(specially Looper) blew a ton of games this year, Beltran had a off year, they didn't have Cameron in the strecth run, and they got no production from 1st and 2nd base.

Still, they won 83 games on arguably the best division(or most competitive) in baseball last year and where among the top teams in run differencial.

Minaya was expecting to fill the holes this off-season, and 1st base is now done.

I can only imagine he will keep it going after making another splash with the Delgado trade.

[dbdynsty25]

First of all, I'm not your buddy, in fact, far from it.

Second, when did I say starting pitching? Didn't think so.

[jLp vAkEr0]

First of all, I'm not your buddy, in fact, far from it.

Uhhhh, Mr. Tough Guy.

Second, when did I say starting pitching? Didn't think so.

Fine, maybe you need to be more specific on your postings or just don't talk out of your arse just for the sake of it.

[Zlax45]

Delgado to the Mets!

And they will still finish in the bottom half of the division. Eventually they need to get a pitcher or two.

You made it sound like pitching was the problem with this comment.

[dbdynsty25]

Yes, pitching was the problem...and it was mostly at the backend of their bullpen (same deal with the Braves). That's why I said they needed to get a pitcher or two. That statement would cover the entire pitching staff wouldn't it? Now, had I said they need to get a starting pitcher or two, you would have a beef. But since I didn't...your arguement is pointless.

[matthewk]

No one to the Brewers!!

[sfz_T-car]

No one to the Brewers!!

Hey, they were .500 this year. If Sheets returns to 2004 form and the young players continue to develop, MKE might finish within ten games of the NL Central lead. A halfway decent 3B would be a nice Thanksgiving present though.

As for Delgado, didn't the Mets try to get him last year? If they had signed him then, they could have saved the prospects and avoided last season's 1B fiasco.

[dbdynsty25]

Yes, he turned down their offer and accepted the Marlins. Nothing like getting traded to the team you rejected the year before. Still trying to figure out why the Marlins would trade him within the division...usually teams try not to do that.

[slyguy]

BJ Ryan was in town this week, sounds like things went well.

Don't worry he will be a Yankee

[nyisles16]

i think it was for the fact that they were one of only a handfull of teams that could actually take on his salary (i remember reading that from Foxsports.com).. the pitching prospect i have read that some "officals" were getting down on for some reason... but with the rash of pitchers exiting FLA, i can see why they needed him..

[sfz_T-car]

BJ Ryan was in town this week, sounds like things went well.

Don't worry he will be a Yankee

Hard to see Ryan going back to being a setup man when he can get closer money elsewhere.

[slyguy]

BJ Ryan was in town this week, sounds like things went well.

Don't worry he will be a Yankee

Hard to see Ryan going back to being a setup man when he can get closer money elsewhere.

He will setup two years and than take over as the closer

[10spro]

Yes, he turned down their offer and accepted the Marlins. Nothing like getting traded to the team you rejected the year before. Still trying to figure out why the Marlins would trade him within the division...usually teams try not to do that.

Because they think they can move their franchise to another city like Portland or Vegas? Highly unlikely of course for next season, but besides cutting salary, there's talk about moving the team out of Florida. And with no stadium deal yet, look for nore house cleaning.

[jLp vAkEr0]

Another big time 1st basemen changing teams.

White Sox get Jim Thome from the Phills for Aaron Rowand.

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2234843

[sfz_T-car]

Well, I guess Konerko's not resigning with the White Sox then. And the Damon to CWS rumors make a little more sense.

I like the trade from the Phillies perspective, although if Thome comes back strong it could look pretty stupid in the short term.

[nyisles16]

he could resign - maybe use Thome as DH cause "Frankie" wont be back.. but hopefully he can overcome his injuries he has had over the past few seasons..