OT: Metal Gear Solid 4

[tsunami]

For anyone interested, here's a link to the newly released trailer for MGS4: Guns of the Patriots. From what I've read it is running real-time on alpha dev kits but it is not actual gameplay. Still, looks pretty impressive. I don't think it matches up the Killzone footage, but we all know that was pre-rendered. So, PS3 is looking like quite a powerful machine. Leave it to Kojima to start pushing the envelope already.

http://www.gametrailers.com/player.php?id=7624&type=wmv


Can't wait to see some actual gameplay footage!

[Brando70]

Can't wait to see some actual gameplay footage!

I remember thinking that while I was playing MGS 2....

[ScoopBrady]

Can't wait to see some actual gameplay footage!

I remember thinking that while I was playing MGS 2....

LMAO!

[Danimal]

That looked good, but not any better the the GR3 trrailers for th 360.

[Nozzleman_216]

Metal Gear will look like that though! Why you ask......IT IS ALL CG CUT SCENES ! I hate that series now!

[Macca00]

(Had to dig this one up.)

Anyway, rumor is that MGS4 will feature 90 minute, that's NINETY MINUTE, that's ONE AND A HALF HOUR, cut-scenes.

http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3167942

lol

Even if that's true I still bet you the mainstream gaming press will give it a 10/10.

[XXXIV]

(Had to dig this one up.)

Anyway, rumor is that MGS4 will feature 90 minute, that's NINETY MINUTE, that's ONE AND A HALF HOUR, cut-scenes.

http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3167942

lol

Even if that's true I still bet you the mainstream gaming press will give it a 10/10.

90 minutes...lord have mercy.

Some of the cut scenes in MG2 were just painful to watch.

[Rodster]

And if I remember correctly YOU had to watch them as I don't think there was a way to bypass it.

OT but I wish Konami would release Zone of the Enders. That game was really cool on the PS2 and I remember buying the game and it coming with the MGS2 demo disc.

[seanmac31]

More justification for why I have absolutely no interest in this title. Five minutes worth of cut scenes are too much from most of the Japanese games- the plot lines are just painfully ridiculous.

[Naples39]

More justification for why I have absolutely no interest in this title. Five minutes worth of cut scenes are too much from most of the Japanese games- the plot lines are just painfully ridiculous.

My feelings exactly.

[Rodster]

I didn't even bother preordering MGS4, once Splinter Cell came on the gaming scene I lost total interest in the MGS series.

[XXXIV]

I didn't even bother preordering MGS4, once Splinter Cell came on the gaming scene I lost total interest in the MGS series.

Ya ...Too bad too...I loved the gameplay in MGS2.

[Rodster]

I didn't even bother preordering MGS4, once Splinter Cell came on the gaming scene I lost total interest in the MGS series.

Ya ...Too bad too...I loved the gameplay in MGS2.

I'm more into realistic scenarios which is what Splinter Cell tries to do, a believable, this could happen storyline. I now lose all sense of immersion whenever I see a startled guard with an exclamation point over his head.

MGS depends to much on over the top dramatic storylines whereas SC goes for modern day scenarios.

[XXXIV]

I didn't even bother preordering MGS4, once Splinter Cell came on the gaming scene I lost total interest in the MGS series.

Ya ...Too bad too...I loved the gameplay in MGS2.

I'm more into realistic scenarios which is what Splinter Cell tries to do, a believable, this could happen storyline. I now lose all sense of immersion whenever I see a startled guard with an exclamation point over his head.

MGS depends to much on over the top dramatic storylines whereas SC goes for modern day scenarios.

I never said I preferred it to SC....I dont...I like SC better but MGS2 was fun to play except for the cut scenes.

[Rodster]

Ya ...Too bad too...I loved the gameplay in MGS2.

I'm more into realistic scenarios which is what Splinter Cell tries to do, a believable, this could happen storyline. I now lose all sense of immersion whenever I see a startled guard with an exclamation point over his head.

MGS depends to much on over the top dramatic storylines whereas SC goes for modern day scenarios.

I never said I preferred it to SC....I dont...I like SC better but MGS2 was fun to play except for the cut scenes.

Sorry, I was referring to me in the post as to why I prefer SC over MGS. The only MGS I liked was on the original Playstation back in 97 or 98 I forget which year it was released.

[Macca00]

I loved MGS 1 and played it to death. MGS2 was a massive dissapointment, mainly because of the insanely long cut-scenes and asinine (I'm being kind) plot. The bait and switch with Raiden was particularly stupid.

I think the part that did it in for me is where you are trying to snipe bad guys from across a dam-like structure while Otacon is talking about having sex with his step-mother.

(Yes, that last paragraph is TRUE.)

That said, I thought MGS 3 was awesome and almost Kojima's 'apology' for MGS2 - the plot, while still over the top, at least made some sense and I loved the camoflage aspect and the brilliant boss battles. The last 30 minutes of MGS 3 are some of the most fun I've had in a videogame.

I was looking forward to MGS4 but if it's true that it has 60 or 90 minute cutscenes I think I'm going to pass. Like 99% of the guys here my playtime is limited and I'm not going to spend the majority of my time sitting through a cut-scene when I could be actually playing. It's also indicative of lazy game design/story telling - games like Half-Life tell a story without cutscenes and even RPGs like Mass Effect don't have insanely long cut-scenes.

[Sport73]

I never cared for the MGS games, at least in so far as I couldn't STAND the story; incredibly cheesy, Japanese-to-English dialogue and an absurd premise.

The gameplay did keep me playing the games for a bit though.

I played the MGS4 Online Beta, and enjoyed it very much, as a much more cerebral and tactical form of shooter. I will probably pick the game up just for the online play.

[Naples39]

Maybe I need to try MGS3 sometime. MGS2 was such a massive disappointment after the truly great MGS1 I haven't touched the series since.

[fanatic]

I'm on the fence too. Like others here, I really don't care for the storytelling and hour cut-scenes.

However, the stealth gameplay still looks great and I'm sure the overall presentation and immersion will be stellar.

There are just too many games to get through these days - but it's something I will consider picking up if the impressions/reviews are through the roof.

[Naples39]

There are just too many games to get through these days - but it's something I will consider picking up if the impressions/reviews are through the roof.

That is all but guaranteed to happen. As many of us here lament the disappointment of MGS2, even that got a 9.7 from IGN and a 9.6 from Gamespot, along with perfect 10s from other websites. Unfortunately reviews for such a beloved and hyped franchise have become pretty useless.

[Brando70]

"Just a box" is still a running joke with my wife and I.

I saw one 100/100 review for this on Metacritic. I guess when you're young, single, and need a break between hentai beat-off sessions, 90-minute cutscenes seem inviting.

[Diablo25]

I'll be waiting for reviews on MSG4. I haven't played the series since the PSOne. I still haven't bought a game for the PS3 other than MLB The Show.

[ScoopBrady]

Well being a huge fan of the first Solid game on the PS1 and a huge fan of the ship portion of MGS2 I had to get this game. I thought MGS3 was a step in the right direction but felt it was overly difficult having to fight the controls after playing games like Splinter Cell. I know MGS3 Subsistence mapped the camera to the right analog stick but I wasn't about to buy the game again.

That being said I am pretty darn blown away by MGS4 so far. The graphics are gorgeous, the controls are solid (pun intended ), and the story (so far) is interesting. I've played for a couple of hours and while there are definitely cutscenes, and lengthy ones at that, they are so well done that I find myself enjoying them more than I thought I would. Being a player of JRPG's cutscenes don't really bother me though.

I was not a fan of the Metal Gear Online beta either yet I find myself having more fun with the final version. Maybe it's because it isn't scaled back but whatever the reason the online was actually fun when I tried it earlier. It's pretty deep too since you have one character with 4 ability slots and around 12-16 abilities to choose from.

I can't say what the future story will bring but I can say that if you enjoyed the first Metal Gear Solid and the Snake portions of Metal Gear Solid 2 I'd be surprised if you didn't eat MGS4 up.

[Rodster]

Weird, I would have thought this game would have interested me but after reading the Eurogamer review and a couple of others about the insane installs and humongous cutscenes I lost all interest in the game.

So has anyone figured out what the actual length is on the gameplay side.

[sportdan30]

I've never played any of the games in the series, but I'm interested in renting the game. IGN gave it a tremendous review.