Hey how bout the weak ass Big Ten?? 2 in the Final Four!!!!!

Jackdog · Post by **Jackdog** » Fri Mar 25, 2005 10:33 pm

All the so called experts called the Big Ten weak all year.
3 teams in the elite 8.

Now 2 to the Final Four.

So much for the experts.

Go Big Ten!!

XXXIV · Post by **XXXIV** » Fri Mar 25, 2005 10:40 pm

Gave the ACC a beat down tonite

bdoughty · Post by **bdoughty** » Fri Mar 25, 2005 10:42 pm

Yes yes I just posted my "eatating of the crow" reply in the other thread.

Cincinnati_Kid · Post by **Cincinnati_Kid** » Fri Mar 25, 2005 10:54 pm

who did illinois lose there only game to this year ?

GO BIG TEN !!!

michigan st looks sharpe definatley the kind of head coach that has his team prepared this time of the year

Jackdog · Post by **Jackdog** » Fri Mar 25, 2005 11:35 pm

sf_z wrote:Go Badgers

On the other hand, it's not looking too good in NCAA Hockey. Down 2-0 after 2 periods. Jackdog-get your avatar ready.

3-0 Sorry bro. GO BLUE!!!

My avatar is yours

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Leebo33 · Post by **Leebo33** » Sat Mar 26, 2005 12:06 am

sf_z wrote:And in other scores, BC beat Mercyhurst, which sounds suspiciously like a cupcake

Mercyhurst recently made the news for another reason:

http://store.publicintegrity.org/report ... 71&sid=200

Wow. I didn't know Mercyhurst is that good in hockey. It is a small school in Erie, PA. I had some friends that went there. According to their website:

"Mercyhurst is making its 6th appearance in the NCAA Tournament overall and its third in the last five years as a member of Division I. The Lakers lost to Michigan 4-3 in the West Regional semifinal at Grand Rapids, Michigan, in 2001 and to eventual national champion Minnesota 9-2 in the West Regional semifinal in Minneapolis two years ago. This will be the first ever meeting between the Lakers and Boston College.

Mercyhurst is one of only four institutions nationwide to send both its men's and women's ice hockey teams to the NCAA playoffs this year. The others are Harvard, Minnesota, and Wisconsin."

Atxj · Post by **Atxj** » Sat Mar 26, 2005 1:53 am

There might be skeptics but I like Zona over the Illini.

FloridaGators · Post by **FloridaGators** » Sat Mar 26, 2005 2:28 am

Why should I give credit to the Big 10? Michigan State been an overrated Duke team tonight and played a masterful game. Big woop. They'll get handled by 10 points to Kentucky.

As far as the other two teams.

Illinois has defeated #16 Fairleigh Dickinson (a midmajor), #9 seed Nevada (a mid major) and #12 seed UW-Milwaukee (a midmajor). Tremendous luck that they got to dodge a big conference winner.

Wisconsin has defeated #11 Northern Iowa (a midmajor), #14 Bucknell (a midmajor) and #10 NC State (non midmajor). Okay, but they got to the regional final by playing all double digit seeds. A #6 seed being favored in every game? Unheard of.

Then we have Michigan State that defeated #12 seed Old Dominion (a midmajor), #13 Vermont (a midmajor) and then played a tremendous game that beat Duke...congrats.

To me it looks like the Big 10 got really luck with their draws. It was still a down year for the league.

Syracuse's zone beats Michigan State, if they bothered to show up against Vermont.

Wisconsin got the nicest draw you could ask for, and will get hammered by UNC.

And Illinois handled 3 midmajors, like they were supposed to do.

FloridaGators · Post by **FloridaGators** » Sat Mar 26, 2005 2:33 am

And I don't agree about this kicking the ACC's ass for one minute. UNC will defeat Illinois for the national title, which pitts the two best teams from each. I will never call Duke the ACC's best team, to me that is still Wake Forest, if they don't choke against W. Va.

I predicted a Michigan State over Duke win, just based on the fact that Duke is slow, thin, and has a struggling Redick (3 for 15 (threes) before tonight's 4 for 14 (FG%) from the field performance).

Regional finals are nice but to me the final four separates the men from the boys...and the SEC, Conference USA, Big 10, and ACC will have split representatives.

bdoughty · Post by **bdoughty** » Sat Mar 26, 2005 2:40 am

<---- Passes the Big 10 hate stick to FG and runs far, far, away.

dbdynsty25 · Post by **dbdynsty25** » Sat Mar 26, 2005 3:02 am

FloridaGators wrote:I predicted a Michigan State over Duke win, just based on the fact that Duke is slow, thin, and has a struggling Redick (3 for 15 (threes) before tonight's 4 for 14 (FG%) from the field performance).

Yeah and you probably have sex too...right?

FloridaGators · Post by **FloridaGators** » Sat Mar 26, 2005 3:32 am

dbdynsty25 wrote:
FloridaGators wrote:I predicted a Michigan State over Duke win, just based on the fact that Duke is slow, thin, and has a struggling Redick (3 for 15 (threes) before tonight's 4 for 14 (FG%) from the field performance).
Yeah and you probably have sex too...right?

It was pretty obvious Duke was not a tournament team this year. They couldn't handle the 6 game stretch with their lack of depth. And their speed was killing them, they were beaten off the dribble against Delaware State and Mississippi State.

FloridaGators · Post by **FloridaGators** » Sat Mar 26, 2005 3:34 am

fact of the matter is the Big 10 got ridiculous good draws. The only upset game they played was Michigan State being an overrated Duke team. Wisconsin did NOT have to go through UConn or Kansas, like thought...I doubt they could have handled that test.

Syracuse would have annoyed the hell out of Michigan State.

And Illinois would have been more tested by the physical brand of basketball played by Boston College. Illinois has done what they are supposed to do anyway.

Jackdog · Post by **Jackdog** » Sat Mar 26, 2005 6:44 am

FloridaGators wrote:fact of the matter is the Big 10 got ridiculous good draws. The only upset game they played was Michigan State being an overrated Duke team. Wisconsin did NOT have to go through UConn or Kansas, like thought...I doubt they could have handled that test.

Syracuse would have annoyed the hell out of Michigan State.

And Illinois would have been more tested by the physical brand of basketball played by Boston College. Illinois has done what they are supposed to do anyway.

Let me get this right. It's Wisconsin's fault that UConn and Kansas got beat? BC goes down and Illinois is to blame? WTF are you talking about? The teams that made it this far deserve all the credit they can get. How the hell do you know how BC would have played Illinois?

As I recall BC sucked ass the last part of the season. What make's you think BC would have given them a tougher game than the team that knocked them out?

Again props to the Big Ten teams that have made it this far. The draws they have are the fault of Kansas,UConn,The Cuse,Florida,ect ect ect. Blame those higher seeds for not beating the teams they were supposed to.

The Big Ten had a down year? The three teams in the elite eight don't think so.

Jackdog · Post by **Jackdog** » Sat Mar 26, 2005 6:52 am

sf_z wrote:OK Jackdog. Here ya go

Thanks for honoring the bet Chris. I hope Michigan wins today. I have tickets to the Frozen Four here in Columbus. It would be great to see them make it in.

Diablo25 · Post by **Diablo25** » Sat Mar 26, 2005 9:59 am

Good draws...easy draws...regardless, the Big 10 has 3 teams in the Elite 8. That is impressive any year.

RobVarak · Post by **RobVarak** » Sat Mar 26, 2005 10:42 am

FloridaGators wrote: It was pretty obvious Duke was not a tournament team this year. They couldn't handle the 6 game stretch with their lack of depth. And their speed was killing them, they were beaten off the dribble against Delaware State and Mississippi State.

OK coach, whatever. That's just dumb. They may not have been a worthy No. 1 seed, and they certainly had weaknesses that mitigated against them winning it. But suggesting that they're "not a tournament team" is simply dumb.

As for your point about Big Ten having such an easy path on their road to securing 3 of the 8 final places, that's almost as dumb. There are more than a few "good" teams that couldn't take care of business against "mid-majors" so say that all Illinois did was beat them isn't nearly the criticism that you think.

Illinois may very well go out against AZ (especially if Head is unable to stay with their shooters), but I don't see how any loss at this level of the tournament is an upset in any meaningful sense of the word. None of these teams (even WVU) is an 85 Villanova-style dog, and they're all solid teams or better playing excellent basketball at this point.

matthewk · Post by **matthewk** » Sat Mar 26, 2005 11:14 am

Why should the Big Ten get credit? This is so simple, FG. Because they have 3 teams still standing. It doesn't matter who they played, they won, which is more than can be said for teams like BC.

FG, It's obvious you're bitter about how things have gone so far, because you're posts have no logical sense to them.

Dave · Post by **Dave** » Sat Mar 26, 2005 11:14 am

Well, if you're going to call Duke overrated, then at least admit that the media has over-inflated the ACC all year.

You can only beat the teams you play, and 3 Big Ten teams has done that so far, with their top teams avoiding the upsets that have plagued other conferences. The only Big Ten team to lose as a higher seed was Minnesota, who lost to a 9 seed.

Nostradamus, thanks for the heads-up so I can get my sweet, money-making parlay into place for the rest of the tournament.

FloridaGators · Post by **FloridaGators** » Sat Mar 26, 2005 12:13 pm

Dave wrote:Well, if you're going to call Duke overrated, then at least admit that the media has over-inflated the ACC all year.

You can only beat the teams you play, and 3 Big Ten teams has done that so far, with their top teams avoiding the upsets that have plagued other conferences. The only Big Ten team to lose as a higher seed was Minnesota, who lost to a 9 seed.

Nostradamus, thanks for the heads-up so I can get my sweet, money-making parlay into place for the rest of the tournament.

Kentucky will handle Michigan State, quite easily. Rajon Rondo is going to terrorize the Michigan State backcourt, which still looks offensively shaky to me. Sparks should have a big day shooting the three and Paul Davis will be shut down by Chuck Hayes. Kentucky by 10+

Anyway, if you want me to say congratulations on three Big 10 teams in the Elite 8, then fine. But Wisconsin's path could not have gotten any easier.

How much of an accomplishment is it that two of the teams who got to the Elite 8 did what they were supposed to do? Illinois and Wisconsin were favorites in all of their games.

Michigan State has been favored in two out of their three games. The Big 10 got a lucky draw, period, where out of 9 basketball games they were favored in 8 of them.

Wisconsin is the perfect example. You know they got a lucky draw. Bucknell beats Kansas once out of ten times. Kansas' frontcourt with Wayne Simien would beat up a weak Wisconsin frontcourt, which is full of outside shooters like Mike Wilkinson, guys that don't want to bang.

Clearly my point is that it would be much more of an accomplishment if the Big 10 had knocked off a few higher seeded teams.

We can talk if the Big 10 gets more than one team in the Final Four, which is what it is all about.

News flash: Wisconsin has NO chance against UNC and Michigan State has a SLIGHT chance to beat Kentucky.

Illinois beats Arizona, as they are supposed to, but that is after all, what they are supposed to do.

matthewk · Post by **matthewk** » Sat Mar 26, 2005 12:40 pm

How much of an accomplishment is it that two of the teams who got to the Elite 8 did what they were supposed to do? Illinois and Wisconsin were favorites in all of their games.

More of an accomplishment than getting your a$$ kicked by a much lower seeded team

Jackdog · Post by **Jackdog** » Sat Mar 26, 2005 1:06 pm

FloridaGators wrote:
Anyway, if you want me to say congratulations on three Big 10 teams in the Elite 8, then fine. But Wisconsin's path could not have gotten any easier.

How much of an accomplishment is it that two of the teams who got to the Elite 8 did what they were supposed to do? Illinois and Wisconsin were favorites in all of their games.

Michigan State has been favored in two out of their three games. The Big 10 got a lucky draw, period, where out of 9 basketball games they were favored in 8 of them.

Wisconsin is the perfect example. You know they got a lucky draw. Bucknell beats Kansas once out of ten times. Kansas' frontcourt with Wayne Simien would beat up a weak Wisconsin frontcourt, which is full of outside shooters like Mike Wilkinson, guys that don't want to bang.

Clearly my point is that it would be much more of an accomplishment if the Big 10 had knocked off a few higher seeded teams.

We can talk if the Big 10 gets more than one team in the Final Four, which is what it is all about.

News flash: Wisconsin has NO chance against UNC and Michigan State has a SLIGHT chance to beat Kentucky.

Illinois beats Arizona, as they are supposed to, but that is after all, what they are supposed to do.

Man you just keep sounding more and more uneducated about college basketball and this tournament with every post.

Since when did being a favorite mean a sure win in the Big Dance?

News flash: The reason people love March Madness so much is the fact any team in the tourny can go out and knock off a so called favorite. There is no such thing as an easy win. Did you pick Wisconsin to make it to the elite 8 in your bracket? How about Michigan State? If not you've made my point.

You really should let this go man. I don't know if your bitter about a lost bet or no women showed up to your TOGA/Pizza party, but your making no sense.