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ESPN's Outside the Lines talked about cases of boosters wanting to make decisions on athletic programs at various schools.

Some of these boosters give tens of millions a year to schools, sometimes with strings (like demanding some of it being used to supplement the coaches' salaries).

One guy gave $5 million to Auburn over a period of two years and tried to get the coach there fired, leading to the president of the school losing his job.

Apparently, there is no economic incentive for these boosters to give this kind of money. It's not like the schools give the donors signs at the school stadiums or anything else in exchange which might have some economic value.

So they're motivated solely by love of their schools and have money to burn.

I guess that's why college sports just aren't as big over here. Schools here just don't pay the coaches nearly as well as other schools. Alumni give to the schools but apparently not for athletic programs to the levels these other schools receive.

The Ivy League schools have the biggest endowments but they obviously aren't spending that money on athletic programs.
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And the point of this thread is?
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dbdynsty25 wrote:And the point of this thread is?
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Point is, people who b*tch about the BCS on web forums are rank amateurs compared to the fat cats who throw millions at schools when it comes to fandom. :lol:

If you want a playoff system, forget the NCAA and the college presidents.

Talk to the boosters.
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That made absolutely no sense whatsoever.
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I gave $100 to Memphis this year. Sadly, I think they are blowing it on a new softball field. I didn't even know they had a team!
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Well Squid that makes you a booster so I guess you are the guy to talk to. So um when are we getting a playoff system and getting rid of the BCS?
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wco81 wrote:ESPN's Outside the Lines talked about cases of boosters wanting to make decisions on athletic programs at various schools.

Some of these boosters give tens of millions a year to schools, sometimes with strings (like demanding some of it being used to supplement the coaches' salaries).

One guy gave $5 million to Auburn over a period of two years and tried to get the coach there fired, leading to the president of the school losing his job.

Apparently, there is no economic incentive for these boosters to give this kind of money. It's not like the schools give the donors signs at the school stadiums or anything else in exchange which might have some economic value.

So they're motivated solely by love of their schools and have money to burn.

I guess that's why college sports just aren't as big over here. Schools here just don't pay the coaches nearly as well as other schools. Alumni give to the schools but apparently not for athletic programs to the levels these other schools receive.

The Ivy League schools have the biggest endowments but they obviously aren't spending that money on athletic programs.
I think boosters are just even weirder alumni. I'm already scared of most harcore alumni... my uncle invited me to watch an Auburn game earlier this year at an Auburn bar and it was the oddest thing I've ever seen.
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Most people think of boosters as those guys who gave a few thousands to a few star players, maybe the use of a car here and there.

But really, they're giving millions and make it possible for people like Urban Meyer to get his $14 million deal.

The NCAA has no problems with all this as long as the money goes only to schools and coaches. But not the players themselves.

Makes you wonder if schools and coaches really want to crack down on boosters giving money to players since they're getting paid themselves.

It would be easy for schools to banish them, prevent them from having any contact with the players. But apparently they don't want to because they're generous donors to the schools.
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bdoughty wrote:Well Squid that makes you a booster so I guess you are the guy to talk to. So um when are we getting a playoff system and getting rid of the BCS?
I've been trying for years!
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Booster money in college sports is the same as "soft money" in politics. Corrupting, largely unregulated and a highly coveted part of the process for the institutions involved.

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Keep in mind though that fans and taxpayers also benefit from these arrangements. If large boosters don't contribute a significant chunk of the head coach's salary, it either means that said coach won't receive that salary and head elsewhere, or the university picks up the tab in full, and because state universities are state institutions funded by state taxpayers, taxpayers pick up the tab.

A couple of years ago in Iowa there was an "expose" in some newspapers revealing the fact that Kirk Ferentz was the highest paid state employee in Iowa because of his coaching contract at Iowa, and was a state employee because he is an employee of the University of Iowa. This got some people in an uproar because of the notion that the State of Iowa has an employee making close to $1M per year. After it was later revealed that the entire amount of the salary was privately funded, Hawkeye taxpayers felt a lot better.
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bdoughty wrote:
dbdynsty25 wrote:And the point of this thread is?
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