Rumble in the Motor City

Cincinnati_Kid · Post by **Cincinnati_Kid** » Fri Nov 19, 2004 11:45 pm

is anyone watching this

ARTEST LOST IT

Cincinnati_Kid · Post by **Cincinnati_Kid** » Fri Nov 19, 2004 11:48 pm

i think the terrel ownes/sheridan debate just got ripped from the front pages

this was truley unbelievable

NBA IS FANBASTIC

Dave · Post by **Dave** » Sat Nov 20, 2004 12:00 am

What a wild rumble. I was watching the game thinking to myself, "wow, Artest isn't trying to knock Ben Wallace's lights out for that." Then I see the trail of beer reaching Ron...

It will be interesting to see how the league handles this. I'm sure B. Wallace will get a game or two for his overreaction, but what will they give Artest? I thinking Stephen Jackson should probably get the harshest penalty, he require the least amount of provoking.

The fans were dispicable though, absolute shitheads. I can't believe how many took cheapshots on the Pacers in the stands and also the downpour of beers and bottles as they left the court. Detroit fans should be ashamed.

Again, I can admit bias, the Pacers are so beat up that these suspensions will hurt.

Kazuya · Post by **Kazuya** » Sat Nov 20, 2004 12:08 am

Good lord... have you *ever* seen anything like that?

XXXIV · Post by **XXXIV** » Sat Nov 20, 2004 12:16 am

Just saw it on ESPN News

WOW

Dave · Post by **Dave** » Sat Nov 20, 2004 12:21 am

I still can't believe it, and I saw it on ESPN when it happened!

Totally bizarre.

Will Artest play again this year? I see the NBA really pushing the "No Players in the stands" mantra on this one, and rightly so.

Artest was this | | close to holding it together...

Cincinnati_Kid · Post by **Cincinnati_Kid** » Sat Nov 20, 2004 12:22 am

the uncut version believe it or not was really something to see

artest amoung others wasnt even calming down in the tunnel

bdoughty · Post by **bdoughty** » Sat Nov 20, 2004 12:25 am

Will Artest play again this year?

Did he really want to in the first place? Have yet to see what happened, just tired of Artest after the past few weeks.

XXXIV · Post by **XXXIV** » Sat Nov 20, 2004 12:25 am

The guys on ESPN were blaming the fans for hitting Artest with a cup.

They a bit confused or living in an alternate universe?

Personally someone hits me with a cup I kill them but NBA players should no better....especially Artest who is on my fantasy team.

XXXIV · Post by **XXXIV** » Sat Nov 20, 2004 12:34 am

sf_z wrote:I guess Detroit just taught Spain a thing or two about hardcore fans.

I knew about Artest but man, Steven Jackson totally lost it.

Did u see Oneil(?) or was that Jackson? drill that one guy?

OW!

pk500 · Post by **pk500** » Sat Nov 20, 2004 12:36 am

XXXIV wrote:Just saw it on ESPN News

WOW

Same here. Wow.

Artest should be suspended for the season. That was the longest and most frightening fan-player fight I've seen in pro sports. Ever. And the fans sure acted like idiots, too.

What a league. What a joke. To borrow from the old New Jersey tourism line mumbled by former Governor Tom Kean: The NBA and its fans -- purrr-fect together.

Take care,
PK

XXXIV · Post by **XXXIV** » Sat Nov 20, 2004 12:38 am

I am watching the NBA round table guys on ESPN News and they are blaming the fans for the entire thing.

That must have been one nasty assed cup.

Inuyasha · Post by **Inuyasha** » Sat Nov 20, 2004 12:39 am

Just saw it on ESPNNEWS as well but seems like they didnt show everything, why? Does the NBA not want all of it to be shown?

Anyone have a full feed as it happened live? NBA is turning into Euro Soccer.

Kazuya · Post by **Kazuya** » Sat Nov 20, 2004 12:43 am

I don't have really too much of a problem with Artest's actions (beyond wishing he would have taken the high road for all's sake), but Jermaine O'Neal really went nuts...

XXXIV · Post by **XXXIV** » Sat Nov 20, 2004 12:45 am

They keep showing different parts every time they show it.

It would be nice(?) if they showed it all the way through.
I doubt the NBA wants the world to see its product pounding on fans and getting pounded on by fans.

Again...that must have been one evil cup.

I have seen a chair flying into the stands. Anyone know where it came from?

Inuyasha · Post by **Inuyasha** » Sat Nov 20, 2004 12:47 am

XXXIV wrote:They keep showing different parts every time they show it.

It would be nice(?) if they showed it all the way through.
I doubt the NBA wants the world to see its product pounding on fans and getting pounded on by fans.

Again...that must have been one evil cup.

I have seen a chair flying into the stands. Anyone know where it came from?

Ya I just saw they showed a few more shots of the players going into the stands, but still not the full thing.

Also, you notice how the ESPN broadcasters are blaming this all on the fans and pretty much saying the players need to defend their butts. Talk about kissing the NBA's butt. How are plastic bottles thrown at players enough reason to go after fans in the stands and punch them.

pk500 · Post by **pk500** » Sat Nov 20, 2004 12:49 am

Weaver2005 wrote:Just saw it on ESPNNEWS as well but seems like they didnt show everything, why? Does the NBA not want all of it to be shown?

Anyone have a full feed as it happened live?

I bet you one will be on BitTorrent or other file-sharing networks by the morning ...

The NBA apologists on ESPN are comical, aren't they? The NBA PR office couldn't have planted better employees in the booth themselves.

Take care,
PK

pk500 · Post by **pk500** » Sat Nov 20, 2004 12:52 am

Kazuya wrote:I don't have really too much of a problem with Artest's actions (beyond wishing he would have taken the high road for all's sake), but Jermaine O'Neal really went nuts...

Wait ... Artest can't go in the crowd because he was hit with a plastic cup. The dude was laying on the scorer's table. What exactly was he trying to do? Tan? Relax?

Artest, Jackson and O'Neal should be tossed for a long while.

Out,
PK

XXXIV · Post by **XXXIV** » Sat Nov 20, 2004 12:53 am

pk500 wrote: The NBA apologists on ESPN are comical, aren't they? The NBA PR office couldn't have planted better employees in the booth themselves.

Take care,
PK

They said that Artest did what anyone of us whould have done.

Maybe I would have( Im insane)....but I doubt most other people on the planet would react that way to a plastic cup half full of beer hitting you.

How many times you seen a cup thrown at a player?
Do they react this way?

The guy on ESPN just said that the league can make a statement by NOT fining or suspending any players for what happened in the stands?
These guys have lost their f***in minds.

Inuyasha · Post by **Inuyasha** » Sat Nov 20, 2004 12:58 am

They are showing more on the ESPN Kings Halftime show.
ESPN makes me want to puke. They are saying this is all the fans fault. I guess ARtest sucker punching a kid is the fans fault.

I dont think this BLAME THE FANS spin is gonna play.

XXXIV · Post by **XXXIV** » Sat Nov 20, 2004 1:00 am

Weaver2005 wrote:They are showing more on the ESPN Kings Halftime show.
ESPN makes me want to puke. They are saying this is all the fans fault. I guess ARtest sucker punching a kid is the fans fault.

Arent they amazing?
Give ESPN the NBA to televise and look at them go all ass kisser.
I think their take on what happened is actually more amazing than what happened.

Kazuya · Post by **Kazuya** » Sat Nov 20, 2004 1:01 am

pk500 wrote:
Kazuya wrote:I don't have really too much of a problem with Artest's actions (beyond wishing he would have taken the high road for all's sake), but Jermaine O'Neal really went nuts...
Wait ... Artest can't go in the crowd because he was hit with a plastic cup. The dude was laying on the scorer's table. What exactly was he trying to do? Tan? Relax?

Artest, Jackson and O'Neal should be tossed for a long while.

Out,
PK

All I'm saying is that I can't hold Artest to a standard I don't hold. If somebody tossed some s*** at me without provocation there would be hell to pay. I'm not good at turning the other cheek.

The other players who weren't attacked first were out of bounds though, IMO.

fsquid · Post by **fsquid** » Sat Nov 20, 2004 1:01 am

How did those fans get on the court.

XXXIV · Post by **XXXIV** » Sat Nov 20, 2004 1:05 am

fsquid wrote:How did those fans get on the court.

One set of fans created a diversion with the fights so that it was easy for the other fans.
They just walked on .
The NBA is going to need soccer like security.