Forza 4

[fletcher21]

Anyone else looking to get in the mix with some new Forza? I can't wait! GT5 let me down badly. Hopefully Forza 4 can fill that void.

[TCrouch]

I've gotten into iRacing so heavily at this point that Forza isn't even on the radar for me.

[fletcher21]

Forza will decimate all

[pk500]

Forza will decimate all

On consoles, perhaps. It won't even be able to hold iRacing's helmet bag.

[vinny-b]

not bein a Xbox 360 owner, i believe this is a fair question.

don't know if i understand, why Forza isn't talked of much, by members on this site.


that said, my experience with the Forza franchise is limited to Forza 1 (Xbox). Very much liked the handling model, in that game. Not on the level of Ferrari (Dreamcast), but very nice nontheless.

[GB_Simo]

not bein a Xbox 360 owner, i believe this is a fair question.

don't know if i understand, why Forza isn't talked of much, by members on this site.


that said, my experience with the Forza franchise is limited to Forza 1 (Xbox). Very much liked the handling model, in that game. Not on the level of Ferrari (Dreamcast), but very nice nontheless.

I don't think it's anything more sinister than a general reduction in chat about all sports gaming, Vinny. Certainly no reflection on the games themselves. There was a thread on Forza 3, which you should hopefully find by clicking these words, where all involved seemed to love the game but not that many were involved. It's seemed much harder to get folks together for a racing night since the halcyon days of ToCA, so games like Forza 3 don't gain the same traction they used to. By contrast, Forza 2 caught the very tail end of that XBL wave and generated much more discussion on the forum.

I realise that the Gran Turismo 5 thread was far longer than the Forza 3 one, but it's much, much easier to laugh at Polyphony Digital...

[toonarmy]

not bein a Xbox 360 owner, i believe this is a fair question.

don't know if i understand, why Forza isn't talked of much, by members on this site.


that said, my experience with the Forza franchise is limited to Forza 1 (Xbox). Very much liked the handling model, in that game. Not on the level of Ferrari (Dreamcast), but very nice nontheless.

Forza 3 got a ton of attention on this site back at the time. I'm sure Forza 4 will get a lot of talk closer to its release, but that is not until this fall. It looks like it will be a very cool game. Hope it lives up to all the hype its developers are giving it. I certainly enjoyed 3.

[XXXIV]

not bein a Xbox 360 owner, i believe this is a fair question.

don't know if i understand, why Forza isn't talked of much, by members on this site.


that said, my experience with the Forza franchise is limited to Forza 1 (Xbox). Very much liked the handling model, in that game. Not on the level of Ferrari (Dreamcast), but very nice nontheless.

I don't think it's anything more sinister than a general reduction in chat about all sports gaming, Vinny. Certainly no reflection on the games themselves. There was a thread on Forza 3, which you should hopefully find by clicking these words, where all involved seemed to love the game but not that many were involved. It's seemed much harder to get folks together for a racing night since the halcyon days of ToCA, so games like Forza 3 don't gain the same traction they used to. By contrast, Forza 2 caught the very tail end of that XBL wave and generated much more discussion on the forum.

I realise that the Gran Turismo 5 thread was far longer than the Forza 3 one, but it's much, much easier to laugh at Polyphony Digital...

Yes it is....The word polyphony on its own is funny.

Anyway...

I loved it but it is to most people a tweener game... Not arcade enough and not sim enough. ...It is a bit dull and lacks that over the top feeling of speed compared to the more arcade racers and though its more sim than GT5 its still not near sim enough for the sim racer. So its stuck between the two.

I played it quite a bit when I first got it.... but like Adam said we never were able to get the crew together for a regular race night with it. After a while I got tired of hot lapping. Old age an all that

[Rodster]

Not really interested in F4 as from what i've read it's just Forza 3a built around Kinect. I'll wait for the reviews to see if the game will be much different from F3.

[vinny-b]

Adam, XXXIV, Toon, Rodster:



thank you. Points taken.

when Derek (webdanzer) made a thread soliciting a racing game recommendation, and this title weren't mentioned, i did wonder if the franchise had taken a 'dive' is all. As i value everyone's views, on the site.





edit: much thanks for the link, Adam.

[webdanzer]

when Derek (webdanzer) made a thread soliciting a racing game recommendation, and this title weren't mentioned, i did wonder if the franchise had taken a 'dive' is all. As i value everyone's views, on the site.

Vin, I don't consider Forza to be as 'racey' as much as the other titles I mentioned, and that was the main thing I was looking for. It's not quite GT-like with robotic 'hold the line' AI, but I don't feel like it's too far off from there. I never really feel like I'm racing 'real' opponents in the Forza series, though the cars are fun to drive.

Dunno if maybe some of the other guys felt the same way and left it off their recommend lists for that reason, but possibly so.

[Rodster]

Dunno if maybe some of the other guys felt the same way and left it off their recommend lists for that reason, but possibly so.

Yup that's how I feel as well. As far as accuracy goes Forza ranks right up there with Gran Turismo and in many ways surpasses it. I find the AI boring in both games while the AI in GT5 was better than I anticipated.

If you want decent AI you need to move into either Race Pro 360, Project Gotham, Grid, NFS Shift. Those games have a different style of AI, although Race Pro has very good AI but the cars have a certain learning curve to them.

[FifaInspected]

Racing games are getting watered down. It seems as if there is "big" new racing title every quarter.

Forza is a great game and on those rare occasions I pop it in i'm reminded how great it is. I think this community is still waiting for the right game to recapture the magic of the Toca nights. We had some fun with Race Pro.. qualifying included.

For me racing nights always held more magic when there was some level of parity. Some of my most memorable gaming moments were those laps where it was fender to fender racing. Be it Toca, Forza, Race Pro etc.. For the most part I spent a lot of my time on a section of track with no other cars in sight until I got lapped

[fsquid]

i'm not even a racing guy, but I hardly missed a TOCA night with you guys back in the day.

[pk500]

i'm not even a racing guy, but I hardly missed a TOCA night with you guys back in the day.

The days of ANY game catching fire at DSP for an extended period of time are long gone. Guys have different priorities, different consoles, have moved to different platforms, etc.

When XBL was in its infancy, we were Yugoslavia. A group of gamers with limited choices in our favorite genres, so we grouped together in an online gaming commune. Now we're Slovenia, Croatia, Bosnia, Serbia and Herzegovnia. Balkanized sects with many choices.

You're never going to see something like Poker Nights with TOCA, NHL Rivals, Ghost Recon or Rainbow Six here ever again.

[FifaInspected]

i'm not even a racing guy, but I hardly missed a TOCA night with you guys back in the day.

The days of ANY game catching fire at DSP for an extended period of time are long gone. Guys have different priorities, different consoles, have moved to different platforms, etc.

When XBL was in its infancy, we were Yugoslavia. A group of gamers with limited choices in our favorite genres, so we grouped together in an online gaming commune. Now we're Slovenia, Croatia, Bosnia, Serbia and Herzegovnia. Balkanized sects with many choices.

You're never going to see something like Poker Nights with TOCA, NHL Rivals, Ghost Recon or Rainbow Six here ever again.

Well said, PK!! It's sad, but very true.

[Kruza]

I may be in the minority with this train of thought, but as technically great as this series is, I truly think the Forza games as a whole provide a subpar racing experience. It pales at that aspect in comparison to the likes of Race Pro and even TOCA Race Driver 2&3.

Also, SBK X has spoiled me with having things like the evolving track feature, random weather changes between pre-race and race sessions, the brilliant AI of competing CPU bikes, the ability to save and load bike setups offline and online, the possibility to get injured in a severe crash forcing immediate retirement and/or miss several subsequent sessions afterward, and the option to compete for individual or team championship online. And even though this is a 2-wheel racing game instead of a 4-wheel game, there's no excuse for many of these features to not be included in the upcoming Forza 4 game which would improve the overall racing experience a great deal. But it's likely none of this stuff will be addressed, so the racing experience of Forza 4 appears destined to be subpar again. Ah well... at least there will be more CPU cars to race against this time around.

Kruza

[XXXIV]

i'm not even a racing guy, but I hardly missed a TOCA night with you guys back in the day.

The days of ANY game catching fire at DSP for an extended period of time are long gone. Guys have different priorities, different consoles, have moved to different platforms, etc.

When XBL was in its infancy, we were Yugoslavia. A group of gamers with limited choices in our favorite genres, so we grouped together in an online gaming commune. Now we're Slovenia, Croatia, Bosnia, Serbia and Herzegovnia. Balkanized sects with many choices.

You're never going to see something like Poker Nights with TOCA, NHL Rivals, Ghost Recon or Rainbow Six here ever again.

Well said, PK!! It's sad, but very true.

No s***.

I will never run out of gas on the 50th and last lap of Bathurst 1000 again

I think that was six or seven years ago with TOCA 2 but I still cant believe I ran out of gas

[TCrouch]

OK, watching this certainly got me more interested.

http://e3.gamespot.com/video/6318146/fo ... Btitle%3B2

[toonarmy]

My main hope is that they improve the physics and AI. I completed 2 and 3, but have had my fill of Forza unless they can do something about the physics. I know GT5 is not popular around these parts but I am still playing it regularly and doing every seasonal that comes out due to the fact that the physics is very good for a console game. Forza 4 looks like it will have an insane amount of content and be a massive game, but I'm not sure I want to trudge through it unless core areas have been upgraded. I know I will probably buy it and give it a shot simply because it's Forza and I have liked the series immensely, but how long I stick with it this time is up in the air.

[Rodster]

My main hope is that they improve the physics and AI. I completed 2 and 3, but have had my fill of Forza unless they can do something about the physics. I know GT5 is not popular around these parts but I am still playing it regularly and doing every seasonal that comes out due to the fact that the physics is very good for a console game. Forza 4 looks like it will have an insane amount of content and be a massive game, but I'm not sure I want to trudge through it unless core areas have been upgraded. I know I will probably buy it and give it a shot simply because it's Forza and I have liked the series immensely, but how long I stick with it this time is up in the air.

Toon, Turn 10 has changed things up quite a bit. You may like. Eurogamer had a write up this morning on Forza 4, check it out. They actually liked the changes.

Forza Motorsport 4 - Preview
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011- ... -4-preview

"Stepping up to actually play the game, it's also easy to be a little complacent. Forza's handling has veered from the dry simulation of the second game to the more pliable cars of 3, but the one constant has been its forgiving nature. Within seconds it's clear that Forza has changed dramatically.

Switch off all the assists and engage Forza 4's all-new simulation handling mode and it's a strange and quite terrifying experience, a single lap of the fictional Alpine circuit seeing a Ferrari 599 spitting us into the scenery at every opportunity. The front engine, rear-wheel drive car lazily lunges into corners with heavy understeer before, just as it kisses the apex, snapping into aggressive oversteer that sends the rear flailing. After the relative stability of Forza 3's cars, it's a shock to find these cars so alive and so wild.

Turn 10's John Knowles smiles as we recount this experience to him later, going on to explain how the more involved handling has come about through the expansion of the existing partnership with tyre manufacturer Pirelli. "We've taken all their physical data and all their tyre deformation data and we've matched it against everything that we were doing," he says."

[XXXIV]

Is GT5 actually still considered an actual game by anyone?

My main hope is that they improve the physics and AI. I completed 2 and 3,

[Rodster]

Is GT5 actually still considered an actual game by anyone?

[XXXIV]

That is a great gif.

Too bad no one ever does that

[Rodster]

I repurchased GT5, Newegg had it for $35 shipped.