MLB Off-Season Discussion

sfz_T-car · Post by **sfz_T-car** » Sun Nov 19, 2006 4:58 pm

Hendry wanted to make a big splash. Well, I guess this qualifies.

It's not a bad move in the short term but Soriano doesn't have a set of skills that seem like they'll hold up with age.

10spro · Post by **10spro** » Sun Nov 19, 2006 7:56 pm

In homer friendly Wrigley field, Soriano should have good numbers and will be probably the Cubs leadoff hitter. He'll probably take over J. Pierre's position. Excellent signing.

dbdynsty25 · Post by **dbdynsty25** » Sun Nov 19, 2006 8:01 pm

It's a huge pickup...I wouldn't say it's a great signing though...as others have mentioned...8 year contracts to 30 year olds don't end well. Had they signed him for 5 years, it would be great...but then again they would have needed to add a few mil per year to make that happen.

tjung0831 · Post by **tjung0831** » Sun Nov 19, 2006 8:15 pm

10spro wrote:In homer friendly Wrigley field, Soriano should have good numbers and will be probably the Cubs leadoff hitter. He'll probably take over J. Pierre's position. Excellent signing.

Good deal for Soriano...since he signed with the Cubs he only has to really care about playing and winning from April until July 1st.

10spro · Post by **10spro** » Mon Nov 20, 2006 2:55 am

Jay's fans, F. Catalonotto just signed for Texas on a 3 year deal. With the signing of Thomas his days were numbered. The Cat was good for Toronto.

fanatic · Post by **fanatic** » Mon Nov 20, 2006 9:23 am

10spro wrote:Jay's fans, F. Catalonotto just signed for Texas on a 3 year deal. With the signing of Thomas his days were numbered. The Cat was good for Toronto.

I'll miss the Cat as well. A true professional while he was here and a solid bat .

sportdan30 · Post by **sportdan30** » Mon Nov 20, 2006 9:33 am

tjung0831 wrote:
10spro wrote:In homer friendly Wrigley field, Soriano should have good numbers and will be probably the Cubs leadoff hitter. He'll probably take over J. Pierre's position. Excellent signing.
Good deal for Soriano...since he signed with the Cubs he only has to really care about playing and winning from April until July 1st.

LMAO. Excellent excellent point. What a ridiculous amount of money to spend on one player for a franchise who hasn't won the W.S. since 1908!

Owners really can't cry poor anymore, can they?

jLp vAkEr0 · Post by **jLp vAkEr0** » Mon Nov 20, 2006 9:42 am

I'm just glad Soriano is out of the NL East.

matthewk · Post by **matthewk** » Mon Nov 20, 2006 10:16 am

Nothing but crickets here in Milwaukee. So far the highlight has been offering up deals to keep Grafanino and Cirillo.

Hey Dave, maybe in a few weeks the Brewers and Twins can get into a bidding war for Batista to liven things up a bit

Brando70 · Post by **Brando70** » Mon Nov 20, 2006 11:16 am

dbdynsty25 wrote:It's a huge pickup...I wouldn't say it's a great signing though...as others have mentioned...8 year contracts to 30 year olds don't end well. Had they signed him for 5 years, it would be great...but then again they would have needed to add a few mil per year to make that happen.

They did what they had to do to get him. It will be a tough contract in three or four years, but he seems very healthy and you can't find a better combo of speed and power from any player at any age. They have a lineup that can drive in a lot of runs (and a coach who doesn't dismiss OBP). If they can just find a couple of above average pitching pieces they could be pretty competitive next year, especially in the Central.

grtwhtsk · Post by **grtwhtsk** » Mon Nov 20, 2006 3:04 pm

Ryan Howard is the MVP.

http://mlb.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/index.jsp

jLp vAkEr0 · Post by **jLp vAkEr0** » Mon Nov 20, 2006 3:13 pm

grtwhtsk wrote:Ryan Howard is the MVP.

http://mlb.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/index.jsp

Well deserved.

tjung0831 · Post by **tjung0831** » Mon Nov 20, 2006 3:19 pm

jLp vAkEr0 wrote:
grtwhtsk wrote:Ryan Howard is the MVP.

http://mlb.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/index.jsp
Well deserved.

Congrats to Howard. He's from St. Charles MO!

Programmed2Kill · Post by **Programmed2Kill** » Mon Nov 20, 2006 3:22 pm

Damn, finally some good news for Philly sports. Congrats to Ryan

And nice to see the Phils do lots of upgrading to help him out. [/sarcasm]

sportdan30 · Post by **sportdan30** » Mon Nov 20, 2006 3:23 pm

Congrats to Mr. Howard, a St. Louis native. Not only a fantastic year, but a fantastic human being.

Kazuya · Post by **Kazuya** » Mon Nov 20, 2006 3:24 pm

Wow... I'm pretty shocked that Pujols didn't win. However, with the insane late run that Howard went on he definitely put himself in the conversation with Beltran and Pujols, so no complaints.

sfz_T-car · Post by **sfz_T-car** » Mon Nov 20, 2006 8:30 pm

Juan Pierre to the Dodgers for 5 years/$45M.

dbdynsty25 · Post by **dbdynsty25** » Mon Nov 20, 2006 9:03 pm

sfz_T-car wrote:Juan Pierre to the Dodgers for 5 years/$45M.

Thank god...I heard the Braves were talking about him. Eeesh. 9 mil a year for that noodle arm.

sfz_T-car · Post by **sfz_T-car** » Tue Nov 21, 2006 12:52 am

Huge sigh of relief to see Pierre headed to LA. The Giants reportedly offered him 3 yrs @ $30M.

Who knows? Coletti could turn out to be a genius. At the rate things are going, Pierre might be a bargain at $9M in 2011. The Angels just gave a 33 year old middle reliever 4 years at $18M. Justin Speier had an exceptional year in 2005 but c'mon.

dbdynsty25 · Post by **dbdynsty25** » Tue Nov 21, 2006 3:53 pm

How the hell did Morneau win the MVP? Never saw that coming in a million years. Didn't think it would be possible.

sfz_T-car · Post by **sfz_T-car** » Tue Nov 21, 2006 4:05 pm

Morneau isn't even the most valuable player on his own team. You could make the case that both Mauer and Johan had better seasons, along with a half dozen other AL players.

lexbur · Post by **lexbur** » Tue Nov 21, 2006 4:08 pm

It's amazing, at the same time of the year as all these crazy multi-million dollar free agent signings, they announce the league MVPs... the AL MVP made $385,000 last year and the NL MVP made $355,000!

10spro · Post by **10spro** » Tue Nov 21, 2006 6:01 pm

Well it was a very close vote, but I must say I was surprised D. Jeter didn't win it. I even had J. Dye ahead of Morneau but regardless, Canada particularly Bristish Columbia is proud to have two MVP's in baseball and Basketball.

Dave · Post by **Dave** » Tue Nov 21, 2006 6:36 pm

sfz_T-car wrote:Morneau isn't even the most valuable player on his own team. You could make the case that both Mauer and Johan had better seasons, along with a half dozen other AL players.

I agree that Morneau was the third most valuable Twin. But he really put it together in May and was hot the rest of the way, which coincided the the Twins rising from 4th in the AL Central to eventually win the division. I'd put Santana at one and Mauer at two for the Twins--if I had a vote it would have gone Santana 1, Jeter 2.

Am I a bad fan for being more concerned in how this will affect his arbitration salary in a year or two?

dbdynsty25 · Post by **dbdynsty25** » Tue Nov 21, 2006 6:41 pm

Dave wrote:Am I a bad fan for being more concerned in how this will affect his arbitration salary in a year or two?

Nope...because now you can kiss him goodbye after his arbitration year...or maybe before. The business side sucks ass.