OT: Election/Politics thread, Part 6

Jackdog · Post by **Jackdog** » Thu Jan 15, 2009 12:34 pm

RobVarak wrote:The retrenchment continues unabated. Life is full of smally hypocrisies, I can live with that. But it's beginning to be a death by a thousand cuts-type situation.

"We will kill bin Laden. We will crush al Qaeda."
--Obama ad nauseum during the campaign.

COURIC: How important do you think it is, Mr. President-elect, to apprehend Osama bin Laden?

OBAMA: I think that we have to so weaken his infrastructure that, whether he is technically alive or not, he is so pinned down that he cannot function. My preference obviously would be to capture or kill him. But if we have so tightened the noose that he’s in a cave somewhere and can’t even communicate with his operatives then we will meet our goal of protecting America.
LMFAO

No $hit. Obama's answer to Couric sounds like a Bush quote.

Teal · Post by **Teal** » Thu Jan 15, 2009 12:54 pm

Just FYE:

JRod · Post by **JRod** » Thu Jan 15, 2009 2:10 pm

RobVarak wrote:I definitely remember outlets like NPR and The Daily Show taking shots over the cost of the inauguration, but it wasn't a universal complaint. I thought it was a baseless criticism then as it is now.

The Daily Show, haha. Timeout for using that show and a news source.

fsquid · Post by **fsquid** » Thu Jan 15, 2009 2:12 pm

H wasn't using it as a news source. He was using it as an example of a medium that spoofed how much Bush spent for his inauguration.

matthewk · Post by **matthewk** » Thu Jan 15, 2009 2:28 pm

Technically (though unintentionally, I'm sure), JRod is correct. Rob did use a show and a news source as examples.

Edit: After reading Rob's latest post I went back and re-read the whole exchange. I misread Robs example of NPR as a news source. So now I'm the one technically incorrect.

RobVarak · Post by **RobVarak** » Thu Jan 15, 2009 3:57 pm

I was actually agreeing with Jared. To me it seems that it was only the outlets that were openly critical of the war itself that were bitching about the inauguration....actually only a few of them.

It wasn't as wide spread as Teal was claiming, and as I said, I found the whiners unpersuasive and petty then as I do now.

bdoughty · Post by **bdoughty** » Thu Jan 15, 2009 4:07 pm

This one is for Matthew, since it is hitting close to home

http://businessandmedia.org/articles/20 ... 94613.aspx

City of Madison, Wis. Eyes Draconian Zoning Ordinances to 'Adapt to Climate Change'

matthewk · Post by **matthewk** » Thu Jan 15, 2009 5:10 pm

Yeah, I heard about the idea they had of banning drive-thrus in the entire city of madison a while ago. Thankfully, I don't live there. Aside from the way-out-left areas of Madison and the city of Milwaukee, Wisconsin is farily conservative.

Milwaukee residents voted on a referendum question in November that mandates all companies operating in the city give their employees 9 sick days per year. This includes part time and hourly employees.

If I missed 9 days a year for being "sick", I'd be fired. Giving this many to cooks at McDonalds is ludicrous. One local restaurant with 3 locations has already shut down this year, citing this as a contributing factor. So instead of having an hourly job without paid sick days, hey now have no job at all. Smart move do-gooders.

bdoughty · Post by **bdoughty** » Sat Jan 17, 2009 2:50 pm

Just when I thought the Bush hate could not get any sillier.

http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/us_world/Bra ... peech.html

Brave Pilot Saved Us From President's Speech A grateful nation honors Chesley Sullenberger

George W. Bush's farewell address to the nation was a bit like his last press conference, but shorter: a little sentimental, a little defensive, a lot about 9/11. Fortunately, nobody had to watch it because of the blanket coverage devoted to a freaking airplane that flew into the Hudson.

Wow, that is some freaking serious journalism you have going there, NBC in DFW.

dougb · Post by **dougb** » Sat Jan 17, 2009 4:27 pm

bdoughty wrote:Just when I thought the Bush hate could not get any sillier.

http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/us_world/Bra ... peech.html

Brave Pilot Saved Us From President's Speech A grateful nation honors Chesley Sullenberger

George W. Bush's farewell address to the nation was a bit like his last press conference, but shorter: a little sentimental, a little defensive, a lot about 9/11. Fortunately, nobody had to watch it because of the blanket coverage devoted to a freaking airplane that flew into the Hudson.

Wow, that is some freaking serious journalism you have going there, NBC in DFW.

That'll be the next New York Times Editorial Columnist then when f*cking Maureen Dowd steps down. Antoinettes the lot of them.

Best wishes,

Doug

XXXIV · Post by **XXXIV** » Sat Jan 17, 2009 4:36 pm

When I see hate that like that from our wonderful media I feel so much better about how I feel about them.

They always like to remind me of what they really are.

Agenda driven pieces of s***.

Jackdog · Post by **Jackdog** » Sun Jan 18, 2009 11:23 am

What a cheesy and bullshit thing to do. It's one thing to write your daughters a private letter. It's another to release it to PARADE. I wasn't touched at all. This seals it for Carol and I. We aren't buying Obama's "YES WE CAN" commemorative plate.

http://www.parade.com/export/sites/defa ... hters.html

wco81 · Post by **wco81** » Sun Jan 18, 2009 12:49 pm

Only the diehards want to hear from Bush at this point.

This past week, the talk was about how in 30 years, he'll be vindicated if the Middle East becomes peaceful.

If that's what you have to hang onto, that your legacy will somehow turn out positive at some undefined point in the future.

Rodster · Post by **Rodster** » Sun Jan 18, 2009 12:55 pm

wco81 wrote:Only the diehards want to hear from Bush at this point.

This past week, the talk was about how in 30 years, he'll be vindicated if the Middle East becomes peaceful.

If that's what you have to hang onto, that your legacy will somehow turn out positive at some undefined point in the future.

Too bad it worked out for Jimmy Carter.

Feanor · Post by **Feanor** » Sun Jan 18, 2009 1:27 pm

He's History's Greatest Monster.

pk500 · Post by **pk500** » Sun Jan 18, 2009 1:39 pm

Feanor wrote:He's History's Greatest Monster.

And I hope that was a snide remark or joke ... Otherwise, it's hysterical hyperbole of the highest order.

Bush was a sh*tty president, no question. Led by pure ideology rather than practicality, which never is a good thing.

But history's greatest monster? Ever hear of Hitler? Pol Pot? Stalin? Mao? Milosevic?

You're comparing a bad president to leaders who attempted extermination of certain segments of their population?

Come on. I guess people will say anything -- as stupid as it may be -- to get a rise.

Take care,
PK

JackB1 · Post by **JackB1** » Sun Jan 18, 2009 1:55 pm

pk500 wrote:
Bush was a sh*tty president, no question.

Ya think?

He is leaving with a 20% approval rating. The worst EVER for an outgoing President. The thing that really bugged me in his farewell speech the other day was him saying "I did everything on behalf of the American people". The truth is exactly the opposite. He acted alone. The country never demanded we bomb Iraq....Europe was against it, the UN was against it, the rest of the world was against it. How dare he say he acted on our behalf!

And then he defended his response to Katrina! That was a documented debacle of the highest magnitude. We watched helplessly on TV while thousands called for help from their rooftops for days until the gov't arrived. It's disgusting that he still can't admit incompetence after looking back on it all.

p.s. I know I said I would stay out of these threads, but he angered me so much the other day, I had to get one last statement out of my statement. OK, I feel better now

Tues can't come fast enough.

Teal · Post by **Teal** » Sun Jan 18, 2009 2:02 pm

Feanor wrote:He's History's Greatest Monster.

And that might be History's Greatest Stupid Comment.

matthewk · Post by **matthewk** » Sun Jan 18, 2009 2:09 pm

JackB1 wrote:Tues can't come fast enough.

I agree. Maybe starting Wednesday people will stop b*tching about Bush and get on with actually doing something to make things better.

XXXIV · Post by **XXXIV** » Sun Jan 18, 2009 2:24 pm

EDIT:..I think that was a Simpson's joke????

matthewk · Post by **matthewk** » Sun Jan 18, 2009 2:34 pm

Feanor wrote:He's History's Greatest Monster.

Not even close.

Godzilla is history's greatest monster.

pk500 · Post by **pk500** » Sun Jan 18, 2009 2:44 pm

matthewk wrote:
Feanor wrote:He's History's Greatest Monster.
Not even close.

Godzilla is history's greatest monster.

I vote for Dick Butkus or Mike Tyson in his prime.

Take care,
PK

Feanor · Post by **Feanor** » Sun Jan 18, 2009 3:06 pm

XXXIV wrote:EDIT:..I think that was a Simpson's joke????

Yup.

Teal wrote:
Feanor wrote:He's History's Greatest Monster.
And that might be History's Greatest Stupid Comment.

D'oh.

fsquid · Post by **fsquid** » Sun Jan 18, 2009 3:08 pm

People still bring up Katrina? Still his fault that the dumbasses down there didn't remember that they are below sea level and get the feck out? We could blame Bush for them being idiots, but public education has been deteriorating since court mandated busing.

Jackdog · Post by **Jackdog** » Sun Jan 18, 2009 3:12 pm

pk500 wrote:
Feanor wrote:He's History's Greatest Monster.
And I hope that was a snide remark or joke ... Otherwise, it's hysterical hyperbole of the highest order.

Bush was a sh*tty president, no question. Led by pure ideology rather than practicality, which never is a good thing.

But history's greatest monster? Ever hear of Hitler? Pol Pot? Stalin? Mao? Milosevic?

You're comparing a bad president to leaders who attempted extermination of certain segments of their population?

Come on. I guess people will say anything -- as stupid as it may be -- to get a rise.

Take care,
PK

Idiots and monsters don’t do what President Bush has done in Africa over the course of his Administration. He's prevented terrorist attacks on home soil for 7 years, cutting taxes for married couples and middle class tax payers, liberating two countries, both of which I proudly served. He's appointed judges who will stand up for the life of unborn and aged people. That's why I won't call him a shitty President. So we will agree to disagree on that point.

Come Tuesday,I hope to God Obama doesn't face half the bullshit Bush had to deal with in his first term. Just like Bush,he will have his work cut out for him. People will find out that one man doesn't make or break this country.