NFL Season 2009

dougb · Post by **dougb** » Mon Feb 08, 2010 10:33 am

Pk,

Thought that he did a spin move on the sack he had - might have been just a half spin though. You're right though - with just frigging bull rushing he still pushed the tackle around like a rag doll on quite a few plays. In the second half he did look far less effective and I think that his ankle likely tightened up at half time.

Best wishes,

Doug

webdanzer · Post by **webdanzer** » Mon Feb 08, 2010 11:30 am

Re: off the field action in the superbowl...

The Who performance eliminated all enthusiasm I had for picking up the special Rock Band track of the smashup made available Sun night.

Commercials were the worst in a long time. Only the Letterman one was notable IMO, given the increase in shots Leno/Letterman have been taking at each other since the recent late-night kerfuffle.

pk500 · Post by **pk500** » Mon Feb 08, 2010 11:40 am

dougb wrote:Pk,

Thought that he did a spin move on the sack he had - might have been just a half spin though. You're right though - with just frigging bull rushing he still pushed the tackle around like a rag doll on quite a few plays. In the second half he did look far less effective and I think that his ankle likely tightened up at half time.

Doug:

Nope, that was a straight bull rush on the sack. Freeney knocked the tackle back on his heels and then blew straight by him, grabbing Brees by the shirt and dragging him down.

I didn't see a spin move all night by Freeney because I don't think his ankle would allow him to do it. Still, a ballsy performance by the Syracuse alum. (Had to get in that Syracuse reference!)

Cowher made the excellent point at halftime that the long halftime could create a better chance of Freeney's ankle tightening, to which you alluded in your post. Very good analysis by Cowher.

pk500 · Post by **pk500** » Mon Feb 08, 2010 11:43 am

webdanzer wrote:Commercials were the worst in a long time. Only the Letterman one was notable IMO, given the increase in shots Leno/Letterman have been taking at each other since the recent late-night kerfuffle.

I thought there were only three commercials worth a sh*t, in this order:

1. Snickers-Betty White/Abe Vigoda commercial. Best spot by a mile. Laughed my ass off at that one.
2. Dave, Oprah and Jay pimping "The Late Show."
3. Doritos ad with kid slapping Mom's date and then imploring date not to touch his mom or his Doritos.

The rest either were mediocre or flat-out sucked.

wco81 · Post by **wco81** » Mon Feb 08, 2010 11:48 am

Freeney seemed to run out of gas after the first quarter. But Saints took the underneath patterns most of the night so it was hard for the Colts to pressure Brees the whole game.

They gave up a lot of easy 5-10 yard gains that kept Saints drive going.

That first quarter, Colts were gashing them with runs and Manning was in a good rhythm. But those long drives by the Saints killed the Colts momentum and they never found that rhythm again.

Would never have guessed the Saints D would hold the Colts to 17 points.

RobVarak · Post by **RobVarak** » Mon Feb 08, 2010 12:11 pm

It's the same formula that won the Colts their SB against the Bears. Play against a Cover-2 that's missing its best pass rusher and you can just pick them apart. The Bears that year were a league average defense without Tommie Harris. The Colts without an effective Freeney are in the same boat. To make an unfortunate comparison, given recent events, you need to have that Warren Sapp-like figure or a good QB will exploit the seams in the zone all day long.

I give enormous credit to Gregg Williams for changing his stripes. He's a blitz-heavy theoretician, but he recognized that's a recipe for disaster against Manning. He played conservatively, jammed the Colts WR's at the line and was willing to give up the line of scrimmage...assuming that the Colts wouldn't take advantage. The Colts running game never was really stopped (except for that horrible last drive of the first half when the Saints were playing 9-man fronts.).

The onside kick was gutsy, and I'm always a fan of that play. Surprise onside kicks are the most underutilized high percentage play in the NFL. Great call.

F308GTB · Post by **F308GTB** » Mon Feb 08, 2010 1:55 pm

pk500 wrote: 1. Snickers-Betty White/Abe Vigoda commercial. Best spot by a mile. Laughed my ass off at that one.

Wow! I figured Fish was six feet under. Way to go Abe.

Didn't catch any of the commercials and watched the game in about 30 minutes. Thank you DVR. It's the only way to watch football IMO.

lexbur · Post by **lexbur** » Mon Feb 08, 2010 5:16 pm

pk500 wrote: 2. Dave, Oprah and Jay pimping "The Late Show."

Too bad they couldn't get Conan to do it also. I guess they tried.

sportdan30 · Post by **sportdan30** » Thu Feb 11, 2010 9:47 am

Looks like the Rams are staying in St. Louis!

http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/sports ... enDocument

XXXIV · Post by **XXXIV** » Thu Feb 11, 2010 10:59 am

I was hoping they would move to Chicago.

sportdan30 · Post by **sportdan30** » Thu Feb 11, 2010 12:30 pm

XXXIV wrote:I was hoping they would move to Chicago.

Ooooh hell no! Though, in recent years I've heard how Chicago has toyed with the idea of having two teams. If the Rams had moved, I would have adopted the Chiefs most likely as my primary team. I guess I'm a glutton for losing teams.

MizzouRah · Post by **MizzouRah** » Thu Feb 11, 2010 1:03 pm

sportdan30 wrote:Looks like the Rams are staying in St. Louis!

http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/sports ... enDocument

Great news!

Rodster · Post by **Rodster** » Thu Feb 11, 2010 1:24 pm

One of you guys should start a 2010 NFL Season thread especially with the 2010 draft 2 months away.

vinny-b · Post by **vinny-b** » Thu Feb 11, 2010 1:25 pm

MizzouRah wrote:
sportdan30 wrote:Looks like the Rams are staying in St. Louis!

http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/sports ... enDocument
Great news!

even better news when/if they select the best player in college football via the University of Nebraska

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Rodster · Post by **Rodster** » Fri Feb 12, 2010 5:23 pm

The Phins have released Joey Porter.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4909494

dbdynsty25 · Post by **dbdynsty25** » Fri Mar 05, 2010 12:56 pm

Why is everyone so excited about Cromartie to the Jets? Do they realize that he hasn't been the same player since 2007? He's a shell of himself. Sure, he's still better than most DBs, but he's not the ridiculous specimen we saw in his first two seasons.

Same thing with Peppers to the Bears. Do they realize that he hardly ever plays a full game? He's lazy and a he gets injured a lot. Not exactly a recipe for success in the NFL.

Post by **ScoopBrady** » Fri Mar 05, 2010 1:14 pm

dbdynsty25 wrote:Why is everyone so excited about Cromartie to the Jets? Do they realize that he hasn't been the same player since 2007? He's a shell of himself. Sure, he's still better than most DBs, but he's not the ridiculous specimen we saw in his first two seasons.

Same thing with Peppers to the Bears. Do they realize that he hardly ever plays a full game? He's lazy and a he gets injured a lot. Not exactly a recipe for success in the NFL.

For me it's because the Bears entire starting defensive line had 17 sacks last year and Peppers alone had 10.5. Having Peppers would make teams choose between doubling Tommie Harris or Julius Peppers. I think he would make the whole line better. He's not the be all, end all but I would surely welcome him to the Bears.

dbdynsty25 · Post by **dbdynsty25** » Fri Mar 05, 2010 1:22 pm

ScoopBrady wrote:
dbdynsty25 wrote:Why is everyone so excited about Cromartie to the Jets? Do they realize that he hasn't been the same player since 2007? He's a shell of himself. Sure, he's still better than most DBs, but he's not the ridiculous specimen we saw in his first two seasons.

Same thing with Peppers to the Bears. Do they realize that he hardly ever plays a full game? He's lazy and a he gets injured a lot. Not exactly a recipe for success in the NFL.
For me it's because the Bears entire starting defensive line had 17 sacks last year and Peppers alone had 10.5. Having Peppers would make teams choose between doubling Tommie Harris or Julius Peppers. I think he would make the whole line better. He's not the be all, end all but I would surely welcome him to the Bears.

Right, but at the cost of Peppers, you could get two guys that could combine to give you the same numbers...assuming Peppers doesn't get hurt again.

wco81 · Post by **wco81** » Fri Mar 05, 2010 1:26 pm

What happened to Oguleye, Alex Brown and one other DE that they had?

They had some good numbers for a couple of seasons around the time they went to the SB.

Most of those guys were young, maybe still younger than Peppers?

Anyways, it sounds like Lovie is pulling all stops to win this year because he's probably out if he doesn't.

Post by **ScoopBrady** » Fri Mar 05, 2010 2:07 pm

dbdynsty25 wrote:
ScoopBrady wrote:
dbdynsty25 wrote:Why is everyone so excited about Cromartie to the Jets? Do they realize that he hasn't been the same player since 2007? He's a shell of himself. Sure, he's still better than most DBs, but he's not the ridiculous specimen we saw in his first two seasons.

Same thing with Peppers to the Bears. Do they realize that he hardly ever plays a full game? He's lazy and a he gets injured a lot. Not exactly a recipe for success in the NFL.
For me it's because the Bears entire starting defensive line had 17 sacks last year and Peppers alone had 10.5. Having Peppers would make teams choose between doubling Tommie Harris or Julius Peppers. I think he would make the whole line better. He's not the be all, end all but I would surely welcome him to the Bears.
Right, but at the cost of Peppers, you could get two guys that could combine to give you the same numbers...assuming Peppers doesn't get hurt again.

Why would you want to spread out that number to 2 guys? They did that last year when both starting DE's had 12.5 sacks and you see how that did for the line as a whole. Vanden Bosch is already gone and that leaves Kampmann and Peppers. Give me Peppers.

Rodster · Post by **Rodster** » Fri Mar 05, 2010 2:27 pm

News for Dolfans, it looks like the Dolphins are keen to bring back Pennington as a backup to Chad Henne, that's unless Pennington gets a serious offer from another team to become a starter.

After multiple shoulder surgeries I think Pennington needs to look at a backup role. Henne would love to see him back with the Phins this year.

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/miam ... 0734.story

Dolphins are making a serious offer to Karlos Dansby. Btw it's spelled with a C Karlos.

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/miam ... 5245.story

dbdynsty25 · Post by **dbdynsty25** » Fri Mar 05, 2010 2:34 pm

Dolfans...gay term.

Anyway...I'd love Dansby and Rolle on D. Not gonna happen though unless the Dolphins open the checkbook which as we know, they really have only done one time recently...and that was for the recently released Joey Porter. That lasted all of two years. Skins will sign Dansby and Rolle will end up on the Giants if I had to guess.

Rodster · Post by **Rodster** » Fri Mar 05, 2010 2:59 pm

According to the article db, the Phins are making a serious offer for Dansby and will use the cash they saved from letting Porter go. If they can pull it off it will let them use that pick hopefully for a top round WR.

Post by **ScoopBrady** » Fri Mar 05, 2010 3:28 pm

Bears just signed Peppers and Chester Taylor. I like both signings.

dbdynsty25 · Post by **dbdynsty25** » Fri Mar 05, 2010 3:34 pm

ScoopBrady wrote:Bears just signed Peppers and Chester Taylor. I like both signings.

I've got odds that by this time next year you'll be regretting that statement, at least about Peppers. I like the Taylor signing.

Edit: 40 million guaranteed for three years! Holy crap, it's even worse than I thought.