NFL Season 2009

MizzouRah · Post by **MizzouRah** » Mon Jan 25, 2010 10:15 pm

I actually felt bad for Favre.. Vikings really outplayed the Saints.. too bad it had to end like that for ol Favre.

10spro · Post by **10spro** » Mon Jan 25, 2010 11:16 pm

MizzouRah wrote:I actually felt bad for Favre.. Vikings really outplayed the Saints.. too bad it had to end like that for ol Favre.

I felt the same for #4. I was over all the hoopla, his no preseason show, his huge ego, how everyone thought that he wouldn't last past the fifth game of the season, etc. I was over his past couple of years of retiring or maybe not, because statistically speaking he had one of the best seasons of his long career and at 40 years old, that's pretty damn good.

In the end though, he made a rookie mistake and it cost his team, he went for a double while a single would have been enough.

pk500 · Post by **pk500** » Fri Jan 29, 2010 8:01 pm

Some NFL Network programming comes to Hulu. Too bad most of the video is quite dated.

http://www.hulu.com/nfl

Rodster · Post by **Rodster** » Fri Jan 29, 2010 8:26 pm

I was watching the '72 Dolphins. Man the game back then seemed so slow when compared to today's game.

dougb · Post by **dougb** » Tue Feb 02, 2010 8:26 am

Martz to be new Bears offensive coordinator.
This should be fun!

Over to you XXXIV...

Best wishes,

Doug

dbdynsty25 · Post by **dbdynsty25** » Tue Feb 02, 2010 1:03 pm

dougb wrote:Martz to be new Bears offensive coordinator.
This should be fun!

Over to you XXXIV...

Best wishes,

Doug

And Matt Forte's fantasy value gets absolutely destroyed (not to mention he didn't do it any favors this year anyway).

Brando70 · Post by **Brando70** » Tue Feb 02, 2010 1:32 pm

I think it's a good hire. Cutler should do well with Martz's system and Martz's schemes work well for fast receivers, which is the best asset of the Bears receiving corps. But none of that will matter if they don't improve the o-line.

XXXIV · Post by **XXXIV** » Tue Feb 02, 2010 4:11 pm

dougb wrote:Martz to be new Bears offensive coordinator.
This should be fun!

Over to you XXXIV...

Best wishes,

Doug

.......Thanks Doug.

This could go two ways...

1) Martz could once again be the offensive mind he was between 99-01 and remember he has a running back . If he does this anything can happen. That Rams team scored 500 points 3 straight years. Those being 3 of the 12 seasons that that has happened in NFL history. That was some pretty good stuff.

or

2) Martz could be the egomanical asshole he was starting with SBXXXVI vs the Patriots . When he refused to 'let them dictate the game' . I like to call that the schmartzy era. Where it wasnt about his team it was about this genius. Many many TE reverses were run at the goaline back then Ill tell ya .

I think much of it will depend on wether or not he has learned from the past and if Lovie Smith can serve as a sorta Dick Vermeil and reign him in a bit. He does have a good history with Lovie, including teaming up with him for that tragic SB36 appearance at the end of what had been a great 2001 season.

I think its a good move for the Bears. What have they got to lose? The upside is big. Cutler could hit that next level into superstar...The downside? They are already down.

Either way Cutler should be prepared to get hit...alot.

Danimal · Post by **Danimal** » Tue Feb 02, 2010 4:36 pm

Best line I heard yesterday.

"Bears are now know as the greatest show on bad turf"

I've already written off this season, are their any more failed head coaches that we can hire? This is a ride it out year as a Bears fan, if some magic spark hits like it did during the Superbowl year then I'll enjoy it. If not I am sustained by the fact this will be the last year of Lovie and more importantly Angelo who is in my mind the biggest problem.

Post by **ScoopBrady** » Tue Feb 02, 2010 4:48 pm

If Martz utlizes Forte like he did Faulk then this has a chance to work. You would think he would have to since this will be the first time he will coach a team that doesn't play in warm weather or have a dome. Martz may be a failed Head Coach but he has proven in the past that he can be a hugely successful Offensive Coordinator. It should make for an interesting season for sure.

I would like to say that I really like the hiring of Mike Tice. He is a hell of an offensive line coach and again, who cares if he failed as a Head Coach? Not me.

Brando70 · Post by **Brando70** » Tue Feb 02, 2010 5:42 pm

Danimal wrote:Best line I heard yesterday.

"Bears are now know as the greatest show on bad turf"

I've already written off this season, are their any more failed head coaches that we can hire? This is a ride it out year as a Bears fan, if some magic spark hits like it did during the Superbowl year then I'll enjoy it. If not I am sustained by the fact this will be the last year of Lovie and more importantly Angelo who is in my mind the biggest problem.

Yes, worst case scenario is that they suck and the Bears completely clean house, including Angelo. And that schmuck doesn't have a first-round pick to flush down the drain.

XXXIV · Post by **XXXIV** » Sat Feb 06, 2010 6:41 pm

Grats to Jerry Rice, Emmit Smith, Russ Grimm,John Randle, Rickey Jackson, Floyd Little and Dick Lebeau for getting into the football HoF.

To the HoF selection comittee.
Im the furthest thing from either a Niner or a Cowboy fan but I find the snubbing of Charles Haley to be pretty telling. Not even getting to the final 10.? Really? ...

greggsand · Post by **greggsand** » Sat Feb 06, 2010 7:14 pm

sim'd the super bowl on Madden today: IND 24 NO 21 - bet accordingly...

RobVarak · Post by **RobVarak** » Sat Feb 06, 2010 7:19 pm

Marinelli, Martz...all we need is that coach with no pants and we're officially Detroit South! WTG Halas family!!

pigpen81 · Post by **pigpen81** » Sat Feb 06, 2010 10:21 pm

I am really bummed out that Don Coryell did not make the HOF today.

John Randall, Ricky Jackson and Dick Labeau > Don Coryell?

Leebo33 · Post by **Leebo33** » Sat Feb 06, 2010 11:06 pm

pigpen81 wrote:I am really bummed out that Don Coryell did not make the HOF today.

John Randall, Ricky Jackson and Dick Labeau > Don Coryell?

LeBeau is 8th all time in interceptions and didn't exactly play in an era of passing. 5 of the 6 retired players in front of him are in. That doesn't even count his brilliant and distinguished career as a defensive coordinator/innovator.

pigpen81 · Post by **pigpen81** » Sun Feb 07, 2010 12:13 am

Leebo33 wrote:
pigpen81 wrote:I am really bummed out that Don Coryell did not make the HOF today.

John Randall, Ricky Jackson and Dick Labeau > Don Coryell?
LeBeau is 8th all time in interceptions and didn't exactly play in an era of passing. 5 of the 6 retired players in front of him are in. That doesn't even count his brilliant and distinguished career as a defensive coordinator/innovator.

I didn't mean to disparage Dick Labeau, but Don Coryell has been one of the most influential coaches of all time. He transformed the passing game to a new era and has had countless proteges succeed in the NFL.

It is just disappointing.

Coryell's direct development of future coaches included Super Bowl head coaches John Madden and Joe Gibbs, Super Bowl offensive coordinators Ernie Zampese and Al Saunders, as well as Jim Hanifan and Rod Dowhower. Adding to the Coryell coaching tree, Super Bowl offensive coordinator Norv Turner tutored under Zampese, and another Super Bowl offensive coordinator Mike Martz studied under both Zampese and later Turner [10]. Dan Henning coached under Gibbs.

Fouts says, "He influenced offensive and defensive football because if you are going to have three or four receivers out there, you better have an answer for it on the other side of the ball. If it wasn't for Don, I wouldn't be in the Hall of Fame [11]."

In John Madden's Hall of Fame induction speech, Madden mentioned his time at San Diego State "with a great coach that someday will be in here, Don Coryell. He had a real influence on my coaching. Joe Gibbs was on that staff, too[12]."

Gibbs also lobbied for Coryell's induction into the Hall of Fame, stating "(Coryell) was extremely creative and fostered things that are still in today's game because he was so creative. I think he's affected a lot of coaches, and I'd like to see him get in.[13] "

"Don is the father of the modern passing game. People talk about the 'West Coast' offense, but Don started the 'West Coast' decades ago and kept updating it. You look around the NFL now, and so many teams are running a version of the Coryell offense. Coaches have added their own touches, but it's still Coryell's offense. He has disciples all over the league. He changed the game," adds Martz [11].

Winslow points out that Coryell had an indirect hand in the 49ers', Washington Redskins' and St. Louis Rams' Super Bowl teams. "They call it the West Coast offense because San Francisco won Super Bowls with it, but it was a variation of what we did in San Diego. Joe Gibbs' itty-bitty receivers on the outside and two tight ends in the middle, (that's) a variation of Coryell's offense in San Diego. It's just a personnel change, but it's the same thing. When the Rams won their Super Bowl, it was the same offense, same terminology. For Don Coryell to not be in the Hall of Fame is a lack of knowledge of the voters. That's the nicest way that I can put that. A lack of understanding of the legacy of the game.[14] "

The fact that many players have made the Hall without making the Super Bowl is ample evidence as to why it should not matter.

Zeppo · Post by **Zeppo** » Sun Feb 07, 2010 9:37 am

I can't disagree with Coryell, Piggie. He should be in.

But finally Russ Grimm is in! Finally one of the members of the most important unit of those Redskins Super Bowl teams gets deserved recognition. Riggins always said Grimm could have his 'locker' in Canton; now he won't have to share. It took 14 years but now there's a true Hog in the Hall.

dougb · Post by **dougb** » Sun Feb 07, 2010 8:33 pm

Freeney has a bad ankle?

Good looking game so far.

Best wishes,

Doug

dougb · Post by **dougb** » Sun Feb 07, 2010 8:33 pm

Freeney has a bad ankle?

Good looking game so far.

Best wishes,

Doug

XXXIV · Post by **XXXIV** » Sun Feb 07, 2010 10:49 pm

Grats to the Saints. Very well done. Pretty impressive performances on both offense and defense.

I have my proof. Manning is not a robot. My apologies to him

10spro · Post by **10spro** » Sun Feb 07, 2010 10:59 pm

Yeah, Manning looked uncomfortable the whole night to me even when they were ahead. Who Dat?

10spro · Post by **10spro** » Sun Feb 07, 2010 11:05 pm

NO took some big chances at key times of the game. Their lowly ranked defense made several key stops, an onside kick sparked their 2nd half comeback, and Porter's 74 yds interception return on a pass from #18 of all people, just clinched for the Saints.

I am a couple of hundred bucks poorer.

dougb · Post by **dougb** » Sun Feb 07, 2010 11:12 pm

Enjoyable game - glad to see the Saints pick up their first Superbowl win. Payton had some serious cajones to attempt that on-side kick to start the second half. If they don't recover that kick I think Indy go on and win the game.

Best wishes,

Doug

pk500 · Post by **pk500** » Mon Feb 08, 2010 10:27 am

dougb wrote:Freeney has a bad ankle?

Good looking game so far.

Best wishes,

Doug

I still don't get how and why Nantz and Simms blew Freeney on basically every replay. Either Simms or Nantz said during one of the replays that Freeney was even using his spin move.

B.S. I never saw a Freeney spin move once in ANY of those replays. All the guy could do was bull rush. His bum ankle seriously neutered him, yet he still had a sack. That just shows how damn good a healthy Dwight Freeney really is.