FORZA 2 impressions thread

Teal · Post by **Teal** » Fri Jun 01, 2007 8:07 pm

mixdj1 wrote:
Zeppo wrote:On the other hand, Mix, you are far too genteel and 'country club' (as 'hey, I'm Kieth Hernandez' would say), and need to be more agressive when trying to pass or hold a position.
Yeah, that's one of my big problems. I'm too much of a "care bear" and am always afraid of messing up someone's race. I just need to have a few drinks before racing so I don't give a crap if I trade some paint.

Then YOU can be PK's spiritual successor...

JRod · Post by **JRod** » Fri Jun 01, 2007 11:38 pm

Haha I just sup'd up a mini with a top speed of 184.5. It's fully loaded with a rank of a S885.

We should have a Mini class race at the ring. Is there anyway for all the racers to use this car?

jondiehl · Post by **jondiehl** » Sat Jun 02, 2007 1:49 am

Spooky wrote: I like that approach I think. I am alwyas in the catagory of more cautious around the first trun so I end up getting nailed from behind. I rarely have a problem of going in too fast.

You're in the minority though, and that's the problem of putting the fast guys on the front of the grid. Most people that have a low true skill rating are either: a) slow/bad racers or b) new to the game

That said, when we put newer drivers on the back of the grid, they lose sight of the cars in front of them and end up giving their best Montoya impersonation to one of the front row runners in turn 1.

Assuming there's enough laps in the race, I prefer to start at the back, wait for the carnage to happen and have them all end up in the kitty litter, then calmly slide into the lead.

Also, some guys like to delay their start on the grid, thinking that this is helping... please do not do this, as it causes even more problems. If you don't start with everyone else, you become a very large obstacle on the grid when tires are loose and cars are bunched together with no room to move around. If you want to get out of the way before turn 1, then blast off like normal, but pull to the shoulder at 60% throttle... that way you're still in the flow but not hindering cars that started behind you.

I've been punted, and have been the punter more times than I care to admit, but as long as it's with DSP dudes, it's all good. No big deal. What's annoying is when we have a few public slots in the room and noobs come into the session and your car is completely fubar before the first lap is over because they tried to win the race at turn 1.

JRod · Post by **JRod** » Sat Jun 02, 2007 2:30 am

It's DSP, you are going to get cornholed. I just got spun out in the final lap of a race where I was closing on the leader.

Tonight, I hit JohnnytheSkin hard f'n twice. Sorry about that.

There's no way you aren't going to get punted. I think it's all part of the fun. I think we all have to understand that you could be leading a race in the final turn only to find yourself in the kitty litter in an instant because someone got aggressive or went a little too fast.

As long as no one does this on purpose, I'm fine with it. Part of the game.

Zeppo · Post by **Zeppo** » Sat Jun 02, 2007 11:08 am

JRod, you and images just don't mix. . . .

The one above is a broken image. The links you posted for your cars only give me pages of gobbledygook. I'd love to see these images, but it's just not working.

JackB1 · Post by **JackB1** » Sat Jun 02, 2007 11:15 am

What the heck happened last night? I finally get my copy of the game and eagerly hop online at around 10:30 and nobody is racing? Wed and Thurs it was Forza-Mania online and then Fri...nothing. Was I too late or was everyone just burnt out from 2 nights in a row of racing? Lets get a regular race night going soon?

On a related note, can someone give me a little guidance on the best way to play the career mode offline. I am so lost. Do I keep upgrading my cars as much as possible or do I keep some of each class? I see that after you add too much horsepower upgrades that it jumps up to the next class. And what upgrades are best to do? The choices are mind boggling. I wish there was an "auto-upgrade" option like in "Juiced".
Lets say I need a good "C" car......do I upgrade a "D" to the highest "C" level before it becomes a "B" or do I just grab a "C" car and ungrade that a little?

I wish there was a "Forza for Dummies" book

Dave · Post by **Dave** » Sat Jun 02, 2007 11:16 am

I'm liking this quite a bit more than expected. Random online racing hasn't been a complete clusterf*ck and the offline part, while a little bland, is fun as well, particularly with C-class cars so far.

Dave · Post by **Dave** » Sat Jun 02, 2007 11:23 am

JackB1 wrote:On a related note, can someone give me a little guidance on the best way to play the career mode offline. I am so lost. Do I keep upgrading my cars as much as possible or do I keep some of each class? I see that after you add too much horsepower upgrades that it jumps up to the next class. And what upgrades are best to do? The choices are mind boggling. I wish there was an "auto-upgrade" option like in "Juiced".
Lets say I need a good "C" car......do I upgrade a "D" to the highest "C" level before it becomes a "B" or do I just grab a "C" car and ungrade that a little?

It really depends on what you want--do you want a car that handles really well or a car that goes really fast? If you want speed and acceleration, upgrade the engine components. If you want the car to handle well, put a good set of tires on your car, upgrade the suspension, and/or take off weight. I tend to at least upgrade the tires on every car I have to avoid the skid-fest that I have on the stock tires (at least on the D and C levels). Buying a D car and upgrading it to C allows you to build it around your style while buying the top C means you'll be running it mostly, if not completely, stock.

So far, I've just done the races that are available and not worried too much about the cars. The only car I've bought was the very first one (bought the VW Corrado) and the rest of my cars were gifts or won from completed the first group of races.

Since I haven't spent much time with the game, I'm not sure how important keeping a car in a specific class is for the offline game, but I can see the effect of classes online. But that's somewhat mitigated by the awesome addition of being able to choose any unlocked car for online career races. That's an awesome addition and keeps you from being limited when racing online.

JackB1 · Post by **JackB1** » Sat Jun 02, 2007 11:29 am

anyone try the Logitech wheel?

http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-DriveFX- ... 879&sr=1-2

XXXIV · Post by **XXXIV** » Sat Jun 02, 2007 11:30 am

That was f***ed up last night.

I could get into pick up races but was not able to accept friend invites or join friends...

I tried resetting modem and router but no luck.

Dave · Post by **Dave** » Sat Jun 02, 2007 11:33 am

JackB1 wrote:anyone try the Logitech wheel?

I'm intrigued by this wheel, as well. It is on sale at EB Games/Gamestop for $50 during their Game Days sale and I have some credit there burning a hole in my pocket.

vader29 · Post by **vader29** » Sat Jun 02, 2007 12:23 pm

I've read on the ign boards that to post pictures of your cars you have to upload them to an image site because they won't link from the official site.

Here are some from a Japanese site:
http://forza.game-host.org/index.html

This one is unbelievable:
http://forza.game-host.org/img/1377.jpg

JRod · Post by **JRod** » Sat Jun 02, 2007 12:57 pm

Dave wrote:
JackB1 wrote:anyone try the Logitech wheel?
I'm intrigued by this wheel, as well. It is on sale at EB Games/Gamestop for $50 during their Game Days sale and I have some credit there burning a hole in my pocket.

I don't think it has 100% force feedback if I remember. Only the MS wheel has it.

dbdynsty25 · Post by **dbdynsty25** » Sat Jun 02, 2007 1:23 pm

Zeppo wrote:JRod, you and images just don't mix. . . .

Don't you mean posting?

JackB1 · Post by **JackB1** » Sat Jun 02, 2007 1:24 pm

JRod wrote:
Dave wrote:
JackB1 wrote:anyone try the Logitech wheel?
I'm intrigued by this wheel, as well. It is on sale at EB Games/Gamestop for $50 during their Game Days sale and I have some credit there burning a hole in my pocket.
I don't think it has 100% force feedback if I remember. Only the MS wheel has it.

I'm pretty sure it does. Might be worth 50 bucks to play with Forza?

JRod · Post by **JRod** » Sat Jun 02, 2007 1:28 pm

I guess they are calling it axial feedback instead of ff. MS must have taken back the term force feedback for their wheels or something.

JRod · Post by **JRod** » Sat Jun 02, 2007 1:29 pm

vader29 wrote:I've read on the ign boards that to post pictures of your cars you have to upload them to an image site because they won't link from the official site.

Here are some from a Japanese site:
http://forza.game-host.org/index.html

This one is unbelievable:
http://forza.game-host.org/img/1377.jpg

That must be the problem.

greggsand · Post by **greggsand** » Sat Jun 02, 2007 2:09 pm

I think I may have to get this just to design some cars. Some of these are really awesome:

Mr. Hankey;
http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l30/S ... Hankey.jpg

And this dude is just a freak, how long does it take to do these???

http://s195.photobucket.com/albums/z222/SavageJon123/?

Vice City Car:
http://www.liveleagueplay.com/GTACAR.html

wpw721 · Post by **wpw721** » Sat Jun 02, 2007 2:47 pm

JackB1 wrote:What the heck happened last night? I finally get my copy of the game and eagerly hop online at around 10:30 and nobody is racing?

We were having problems with online lobby lock ups, and had tried to race a few times unsuccessfully. You joined our lobby after about 2-3 lock ups and I just called it a night. The racing was great while it lasted.

Note to Microsoft your going to have a lot of people online in the first few weeks make sure the servers can hold up.

Zeppo · Post by **Zeppo** » Sat Jun 02, 2007 2:47 pm

Jack, the only wheel that has force feedback with the 360 is the MS 360 wheel. Other wheels can only do rumble, such as that Logitech wheel you linked.

tjung0831 · Post by **tjung0831** » Sat Jun 02, 2007 5:12 pm

Here is my current mini...

http://forzamotorsport.net/forzamotorsp ... 016&mode=7

greggsand · Post by **greggsand** » Sat Jun 02, 2007 5:47 pm

tjung0831 wrote:Here is my current mini...

http://forzamotorsport.net/forzamotorsp ... 016&mode=7

Links directly from the forza site doesn't work. U need to host it somewhere (photobucket or simething)...

JRod · Post by **JRod** » Sat Jun 02, 2007 6:02 pm

Here's the beggining of my UEFA Car.

bkrich83 · Post by **bkrich83** » Sat Jun 02, 2007 9:09 pm

Just picked this game up and the MS Wireless Wheel.

One word: SWEET.

Wilk5280 · Post by **Wilk5280** » Sat Jun 02, 2007 10:48 pm

I couldn't break down and get the wheel, but I did pick up the game today.

I remember spending a lot of scratch on the Logitech GT wheel when GT3 came out and I just didn't not get the use out of it. Maybe once Collin hits shelves I may cave.

Anyway game is about as dull as can be in career mode, but we've been doing this same stuff since the beginning of time with the original Gran Turismo back in 1998. It's just plain boring now IMO.

I know people like to bag on GT for its terrible AI logic and I agree. However, one thing that franchise does better than any other out there is their fantasy tracks. They're layed well and just a lot of fun to race on. Right now I can't stand but maybe one of the fantasy tracks in Forza 2.

I hope I have a lot of fun with this online because right now offline I'm feeling that I've had my fill of this style of gameplay.