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bdoughty wrote:
Al Franken knows as much about politics as he does comedy...
Then he must be a political guru. To attack Franken as a comedian simply shows your inability to set your politics aside. His work as a writer for SNL alone should get him a little credit. Especially during the glory years.
Oh yeah, he is one of the best sketch writers of all time. Most people know him for Stuart Smalley, but his work in the 70s on SNL was tremendous. He wrote or co-wrote one of the best political sketches ever about Nixon's last days.

http://snltranscripts.jt.org/75/75snixon.phtml

Pretty ironic that something that's 30 years old is a hell of a lot more biting than anything on SNL today.
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blueduke wrote:Jared my main focus has been Reid, Pelosi, Schumer, Boxer trying to take out Delay for doing the same thing they did. And THAT is the truth that still stands. Finding wacky Dean quotes doesn't take "cojones", btw.

http://slate.msn.com/id/2092515/

What do you know? Another left wing site making my argument. Tell Franken he sucks for me will you?

Bringing up the left's answer to Limbaugh. I think it is wise to not discuss this further. Glass houses, friend
The Dean quote was terrible, no question about it. I think the right wing bobbleheads twisted it even further -- the point of the quote is that Bush should make the 9/11 investigation public so it doesn't lead to strange rumors like this one. I don't think Dean meant that Bush really knew about it ahead of time, the same way I don't think DeLay meant people should take physical retribution against judges. But it was a really stupid, irresponsible thing for a politician (especially a presidential candidate to say). I could have overlooked it as just a bad choice of words if he apologized, but he never really did.

If the Ethics Committee gets its teeth back, there's probably a good chance there will be some Democrat that gets flushed down the toilet too. I'm sure garbage is being rummaged through as we speak. But the bottom line is: the House Majority Leader is a corrupt, dirty politician who also happens to be the loudest one of its moral warriors. That's why people are noticing this instead of Harry Reid's nepotism (or that of anyone else in either party).
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Brando70 wrote:
bdoughty wrote:
Al Franken knows as much about politics as he does comedy...
Then he must be a political guru. To attack Franken as a comedian simply shows your inability to set your politics aside. His work as a writer for SNL alone should get him a little credit. Especially during the glory years.
Oh yeah, he is one of the best sketch writers of all time. Most people know him for Stuart Smalley, but his work in the 70s on SNL was tremendous. He wrote or co-wrote one of the best political sketches ever about Nixon's last days.

http://snltranscripts.jt.org/75/75snixon.phtml

Pretty ironic that something that's 30 years old is a hell of a lot more biting than anything on SNL today.
As much as I dislike Franken's politics, he was damn good when it came to comedy. I really liked his "contribute to me...........Al Franken" sketches. didn't Franken write most of the Gerald Ford falling down stuff too? That stuff like you said is better than anything SNL puts out now. Now I think it's a show that has "jumped the shark" at least 4 times. It took a hit after Belushi's death, Ackroyd's departure, Murphy's departure, and the murder of Hartman (I think Hartman may have already left the show by then but not sure. He is one of my SNL favorites). Hartman was tremendous as Clinton. The "Clinton in McDonald's" sketch is my favorite SNL sketch ever
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blueduke wrote:
Brando70 wrote:
bdoughty wrote: Then he must be a political guru. To attack Franken as a comedian simply shows your inability to set your politics aside. His work as a writer for SNL alone should get him a little credit. Especially during the glory years.
Oh yeah, he is one of the best sketch writers of all time. Most people know him for Stuart Smalley, but his work in the 70s on SNL was tremendous. He wrote or co-wrote one of the best political sketches ever about Nixon's last days.

http://snltranscripts.jt.org/75/75snixon.phtml

Pretty ironic that something that's 30 years old is a hell of a lot more biting than anything on SNL today.
As much as I dislike Franken's politics, he was damn good when it came to comedy. I really liked his "contribute to me...........Al Franken" sketches. didn't Franken write most of the Gerald Ford falling down stuff too? That stuff like you said is better than anything SNL puts out now. Now I think it's a show that has "jumped the shark" at least 4 times. It took a hit after Belushi's death, Ackroyd's departure, Murphy's departure, and the murder of Hartman (I think Hartman may have already left the show by then but not sure. He is one of my SNL favorites). Hartman was tremendous as Clinton. The "Clinton in McDonald's" sketch is my favorite SNL sketch ever
See, comedy can bring us together! Actually, my all time favorite political sketch is Dukakis After Dark, with Willie Horton showing up with Donna Rice and Phil Hartman playing a drunk Ted Kennedy hitting on Kitty Dukakis. I also loved when Hartman played Reagan as a supersmart schemer who acted dumb to keep his opponents off balance. "Jimmy, don't make me have to kill you!" Clinton at McDonald's is definitely up there as well -- explaining government policy using the french fries was priceless.
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bdoughty wrote:
Al Franken knows as much about politics as he does comedy...
Then he must be a political guru. To attack Franken as a comedian simply shows your inability to set your politics aside. His work as a writer for SNL alone should get him a little credit. Especially during the glory years.


I happen to think Al Franken is a joke (pun intended). Stewart Smalley was the dumbest thing I've ever seen played off as humor.

He's a 360 degree jerkwad...but that's......ok......
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Is it just me, or does every political discussion pretty much boil down to the following (can begin in any order):

Person 1: Conservatives are corrupt, stupid and they suck
Person 2: Oh yeah? liberals wet the bed, are more stupid and suck more
Person 3: Oh yeah? I'm an independent and everyone else sucks
Person 1: Here's a link demonstrating conservatives are no good
Person 2: Oh yeah? here is a link showing your link is bogus and I'm all knowing and right, and btw, Clinton got a BJ
Person 1: I'm rubber, you're glue,
And so on...

This isn't specific to this forum, but I'm amazed at how divisive and polarized political discourse has become in recent years. Perhaps it has always been this way, and I only notice because I pay more attention now, but has it always been like this?

I'm not trying to be critical of anyone here, just making an observation.
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