You guys were right about MVP

JackB1 · Post by **JackB1** » Mon Mar 28, 2005 1:31 am

I got the PC version and after a few games and a few slider adjustments, I have to say I see what you guys were saying about this game. The animations and variety of "stuff" you will see on the diamond is great. I am still getting used to the "hitting model" but most of the time I just try and look for my pitch and time it right. The thing I love is that you MUST pitch like a major leaguer or you will get shelled. In 2K5, I could strike out many batters on 3 pitches. In this game, you HAVE to set up your strikeout pitched with junk. The AI is very good. I also picked up a mod for the camera that brings it lower down and I love the hitting view now. I didnt like the default or the center (better) because the pitches all seemed to be coming "down" into you. The PC version also looks less "cartoony" than the xbox version. The color palletes are a little less bright and look more realistic.

Anyway.....just thought you guys would like to know

dbdynsty25 · Post by **dbdynsty25** » Mon Mar 28, 2005 1:36 am

JackB1 wrote:Anyway.....just thought you guys would like to know

We already did know...it just took you a while to figure it out. Glad you finally saw the light.

matthewk · Post by **matthewk** » Mon Mar 28, 2005 10:13 am

I feel the same way about pitching between the two games. In 2k5 I could basically sleepwalk my way through the game and still strike out 10 a game. I would still give up some runs, but I never felt afraid of hitters in 2k5.

In MVP you have to set hitters up in order to strike them out. That includes changing speeds, locations, and throwing junk. It feels more like the hitters are actually thinking in MVP.

BTW, I have now hit 3 HRs in the last 6 games, which is going on a tear for me

I am really starting to believe that pressing slightly in a direction works much better than extending the stick all the way.

Badgun · Post by **Badgun** » Mon Mar 28, 2005 11:04 am

Funny how I feel the exact opposite about MVP. After playing MLB 2006 extensively for about 2 weeks, I popped in MVP to play a few games. I finally found some slider adjustments that suited my abilities, but even after 4 games, some of them real nailbiters, I just don't feel MVP at all.

Maybe I could get adjusted to it if I played it exclusively, but MVP just feels like it's on steroids or speed after playing MLB. Everything just feels sped up and the pitcher looks like he's only 20 feet away. Not sure what it is exactly, but MLB just captures the deliberate feel of baseball a lot better than MVP.

Even though there are some issues with MLB, it's still my favorite baseball game of all time.

MizzouRah · Post by **MizzouRah** » Mon Mar 28, 2005 11:15 am

JackB1 wrote:I got the PC version and after a few games and a few slider adjustments, I have to say I see what you guys were saying about this game. The animations and variety of "stuff" you will see on the diamond is great. I am still getting used to the "hitting model" but most of the time I just try and look for my pitch and time it right. The thing I love is that you MUST pitch like a major leaguer or you will get shelled. In 2K5, I could strike out many batters on 3 pitches. In this game, you HAVE to set up your strikeout pitched with junk. The AI is very good. I also picked up a mod for the camera that brings it lower down and I love the hitting view now. I didnt like the default or the center (better) because the pitches all seemed to be coming "down" into you. The PC version also looks less "cartoony" than the xbox version. The color palletes are a little less bright and look more realistic.

Anyway.....just thought you guys would like to know

Yea, Jack!

Todd

JackB1 · Post by **JackB1** » Mon Mar 28, 2005 12:17 pm

matthewk wrote:It feels more like the hitters are actually thinking in MVP.

EXACTLY!

The only problem I have with MVP is the hitting model. Even if you time your swing right, the hits still feel a bit random to me. Also the AI hits HR's on good pitches and that too feels randon. There is no doubt thought that this game plays a great game of hardball out on the field though.

JackB1 · Post by **JackB1** » Mon Mar 28, 2005 12:20 pm

Badgun wrote:Maybe I could get adjusted to it if I played it exclusively, but MVP just feels like it's on steroids or speed after playing MLB. Everything just feels sped up and the pitcher looks like he's only 20 feet away.

have to agree here Bad.....the game does play very quickly. You dont even have time for a practice swing. I hate it when I take a practice swing and here comes the pitch! The flipside is that you can get a full game in rather quickly (25-30 mins or so). I wiosh they had a slider for gameplay speed.

Leebo33 · Post by **Leebo33** » Mon Mar 28, 2005 12:28 pm

JackB1 wrote:The only problem I have with MVP is the hitting model. Even if you time your swing right, the hits still feel a bit random to me. Also the AI hits HR's on good pitches and that too feels randon. There is no doubt thought that this game plays a great game of hardball out on the field though.

I think MVP is fabulous on the field, but I agree about the randomness of results. I just don't like the hitting system. I have tried and tried to like it, but to no avail. If anything, I'm getting worse with more practice.

bigmoe · Post by **bigmoe** » Mon Mar 28, 2005 7:08 pm

Badgun wrote:Funny how I feel the exact opposite about MVP. After playing MLB 2006 extensively for about 2 weeks, I popped in MVP to play a few games. I finally found some slider adjustments that suited my abilities, but even after 4 games, some of them real nailbiters, I just don't feel MVP at all.

Maybe I could get adjusted to it if I played it exclusively, but MVP just feels like it's on steroids or speed after playing MLB. Everything just feels sped up and the pitcher looks like he's only 20 feet away. Not sure what it is exactly, but MLB just captures the deliberate feel of baseball a lot better than MVP.

Even though there are some issues with MLB, it's still my favorite baseball game of all time.

hey Badgun......Just like your opinion on the bat and ball contact.....I didnt like lasts years,where a fly ball seemed to bounce off the plate,man a could not get past that visual last year...I heard its still there....Is it as bad...better or what .......and can you live with it?OH... yea I guess you did ... thanks......

kevinpars · Post by **kevinpars** » Mon Mar 28, 2005 9:59 pm

I honestly think that I have been playing a different MVP than most of you. I have been playing at 720p on my xbox setup with XVGA using a 19 inch monitor. For grins, I turned it down to 480p and suddenly everything was easier. The framerate at 720 slows everything down. At 480p the default setup felt arcade and I was chasing balls down like Andruw Jones and hitting the green on every pitch.

The frame rate is not noticably slow at 720p, but it does change the game. But it looks so damn much better that I am going to stick with it. But if I were to play on a TV, my sliders would be useless because it would be a completely different game.

Still having fun with this game, but losing again. I simmed a season and 2 of my minor league teams made the playoffs. Playoff games are harder than regular season games.

Jackdog · Post by **Jackdog** » Mon Mar 28, 2005 11:34 pm

kevinpars wrote:I honestly think that I have been playing a different MVP than most of you. I have been playing at 720p on my xbox setup with XVGA using a 19 inch monitor. For grins, I turned it down to 480p and suddenly everything was easier. The framerate at 720 slows everything down. At 480p the default setup felt arcade and I was chasing balls down like Andruw Jones and hitting the green on every pitch.

The frame rate is not noticably slow at 720p, but it does change the game. But it looks so damn much better that I am going to stick with it. But if I were to play on a TV, my sliders would be useless because it would be a completely different game.

Still having fun with this game, but losing again. I simmed a season and 2 of my minor league teams made the playoffs. Playoff games are harder than regular season games.

Are these the settings your talking about?

Widescreen=480
Normal=720

Thanks,I am like a 3 year old with this stuff.

dbdynsty25 · Post by **dbdynsty25** » Mon Mar 28, 2005 11:54 pm

LOL...

It's just the resolution Jack...not necessarily WS or FS although most 720p content is in 16:9 format. Same thing goes for 480p, but not always.

Badgun · Post by **Badgun** » Tue Mar 29, 2005 12:34 am

bigmoe wrote:
Badgun wrote:Funny how I feel the exact opposite about MVP. After playing MLB 2006 extensively for about 2 weeks, I popped in MVP to play a few games. I finally found some slider adjustments that suited my abilities, but even after 4 games, some of them real nailbiters, I just don't feel MVP at all.

Maybe I could get adjusted to it if I played it exclusively, but MVP just feels like it's on steroids or speed after playing MLB. Everything just feels sped up and the pitcher looks like he's only 20 feet away. Not sure what it is exactly, but MLB just captures the deliberate feel of baseball a lot better than MVP.

Even though there are some issues with MLB, it's still my favorite baseball game of all time.

hey Badgun......Just like your opinion on the bat and ball contact.....I didnt like lasts years,where a fly ball seemed to bounce off the plate,man a could not get past that visual last year...I heard its still there....Is it as bad...better or what .......and can you live with it?OH... yea I guess you did ... thanks......

I have never seen anything that resembles a ball bouncing off the plate. I don't know where you heard that at, but it's simply not true.

SoMisss2000 · Post by **SoMisss2000** » Tue Mar 29, 2005 12:46 am

i've seen that "ball looking like a chopper but really never touches the ground".

Slumberland · Post by **Slumberland** » Tue Mar 29, 2005 12:48 am

Badgun wrote:I have never seen anything that resembles a ball bouncing off the plate. I don't know where you heard that at, but it's simply not true.

I've never seen it either, but even the developers acknowledged it in their thread over at OS, so I guess there's something to it.

JRod · Post by **JRod** » Tue Mar 29, 2005 1:11 am

Slumberland wrote:
Badgun wrote:I have never seen anything that resembles a ball bouncing off the plate. I don't know where you heard that at, but it's simply not true.
I've never seen it either, but even the developers acknowledged it in their thread over at OS, so I guess there's something to it.

I've seen it. It does exist.

Jackdog · Post by **Jackdog** » Tue Mar 29, 2005 5:28 am

dbdynsty25 wrote:LOL...

It's just the resolution Jack...not necessarily WS or FS although most 720p content is in 16:9 format. Same thing goes for 480p, but not always.

Thanks bro.

I do like the graphics better on WS. Seems the ball is flying around a lot faster.

P.S. I watched your boy crank 2 out against the Tribe yesterday. It looks like he's put on a few pounds this year. He is killing the ball this spring.

fsquid · Post by **fsquid** » Tue Mar 29, 2005 11:27 am

I'm digging this game on the PC. Got the jerseys and stadiums updated. Is there a slider set that everyone agrees is great? If so, where do I find it? Thanks mates.

JackB1 · Post by **JackB1** » Tue Mar 29, 2005 12:40 pm

same here squid.....got the PC version too. Try the "low cam" mod from www.mvpmods.com. I really like a lower view of the incoming pitch. More like MLB2K5's camera. MVP's default or center camera makes it look like the pitch is comind down too much at you. There are also many other great mods you can pickup there and also at baseballsimcentral.com. I see they (EA) also just released a patch to cure the stuttering issues many folks have been having.

MizzouRah · Post by **MizzouRah** » Tue Mar 29, 2005 1:09 pm

JRod wrote:
Slumberland wrote:
Badgun wrote:I have never seen anything that resembles a ball bouncing off the plate. I don't know where you heard that at, but it's simply not true.
I've never seen it either, but even the developers acknowledged it in their thread over at OS, so I guess there's something to it.
I've seen it. It does exist.

Me too. Sometimes I preload a throw to first because I'm unsure if it's a fly ball or grounder.

Todd

JackB1 · Post by **JackB1** » Wed Mar 30, 2005 12:36 pm

It still bugs me how the CPU jacks HR's at a high pace.....at least against me. I wouldn't mind it so much, if they were mistake pitches or meatballs over the middle, but some HR's are off of good pitches where I am ahead in the count. Very perplexing. Am I not pitching "carefully" enough or is this just a part of MVP that you have to accept. Other than that, I am loving this game on the PC. The countless animations are priceless.

Badger_Fan · Post by **Badger_Fan** » Wed Mar 30, 2005 1:04 pm

I'm not seeing a ton of HRs by the computer, but I'm also using a pretty good pitching staff (Twins). I've been getting more strikeouts each game and I think the key is that when you get ahead in the count you have to be willing to waste a pitch or two. And not nibbling either. I'm talking pitches well out of the strikezone. For instance if I'm ahead in the count 1-2 I'll throw a curveball well down and away that I know they aren't going to swing at. Then come back with a 4 seamer or a cutter just off the plate inside and I'll get a weak grounder or a strikeout a lot of times.

The other key to pitching I think is pitching to the red zones. Not all of the time, but you have to throw pitches there. If you only throw to the blue or white zones they'll be sitting on those areas and will crush them. A blue zone doesn't mean that a guy can't mash there, but simply that he can't control where it's going to go. So, for instance, if you have a right hander up with a blue zones on the outside of the plate it doesn't mean that he can't get good contact there. It means that if he was to try to hit it the opposite way, or hit it in the air or on the ground, he wouldn't be able to. The zones are more about bat control than quality of contact. Does that make sense?

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