Basketball Question

davet010 · Post by **davet010** » Thu Oct 30, 2003 7:41 am

NBA Live 04 or ESPN ?
 
 Single player only
 Prefer deep franchise mode
 Xbox
 
 Thanks in advance.
 
 DT

matthewk · Post by **matthewk** » Thu Oct 30, 2003 10:16 am

Inside Drive. Seriously.
 
 -Matt

davet010 · Post by **davet010** » Thu Oct 30, 2003 11:49 am

Matt
 
 Word about last year´s version was that it was great online, but not so good single player.
 
 Is that likely to differ this year ?

dbdynsty25 · Post by **dbdynsty25** » Thu Oct 30, 2003 2:46 pm

Umm...it wasn´t online last year. ID was the BEST single player game last year, and the addition of Online play will make it the s*** this year. If they leave the core alone, add a few fouls and animations, and include LIVE, it will be the game to beat.
 
 As for the two games you mentioned...ESPN is the better of the two, because of online play...but my copy is just sitting here waiting to get traded in for ID when it´s released later in November.

matthewk · Post by **matthewk** » Thu Oct 30, 2003 3:41 pm

DAve you must be confused. Like DB said, ID 2003 wasn´t even online compatible last year.
 
 The single player experience is great, though.
 
 -Matt

jLp vAkEr0 · Post by **jLp vAkEr0** » Thu Oct 30, 2003 3:51 pm

Trust us dave:
 
 ID will be teh game to beat. Great single player experience and they added XSN support for online leagues. Can´t beat that man.

davet010 · Post by **davet010** » Thu Oct 30, 2003 4:55 pm

Gents
 
 Thanks very much - I sit corrected !
 
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pk500 · Post by **pk500** » Thu Oct 30, 2003 5:09 pm

Dave:
 
 I´ll pile on -- Inside Drive 2003 was the best basketball game of any flavor I´ve ever played.
 
 Take care,
 PK

TCrouch · Post by **TCrouch** » Thu Oct 30, 2003 5:11 pm

Ditto.

Leebo33 · Post by **Leebo33** » Thu Oct 30, 2003 9:29 pm

I will also jump on the Inside Drive bandwagon, however, I will say I am having a blast with Live 2004. My season stats are as realistic as any sports game I have ever played. Live 2004 is better than ID 2003 IMO, but ID2004 should be the best of the bunch if they just do what DB suggested (along with some toned down offensive rebounding).
 
 I am REALLY hoping that March Madness is running on the current Live engine (a smoother framerate would be nice, although I don´t even notice the few hiccups on the PS2 version of Live). That way I can switch to ID 2004 for NBA/online and March Madness to continue playing on the great Live engine.

JRod · Post by **JRod** » Thu Oct 30, 2003 9:37 pm

Is high voltage doing ID 2004. If they aren´t I dont´ think I would buy ID but rather rent it.
 
 NBA Live beats out all games so far but ID isn´t out yet. So we´ll just have to wait. However, a word of caution, MS is getting bad and just making their games good for online play and forgetting other main gameplay compenents. ID has a good base to stand on so atleast all they have to do for this year is refine ID 2003.

RAMMZZ · Post by **RAMMZZ** » Thu Oct 30, 2003 10:03 pm

Disagree in a HUGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!way
 
 ESPN 2K4 is a FAR FAR FAR better game than that garbage EA released

Leebo33 · Post by **Leebo33** » Thu Oct 30, 2003 10:10 pm

FAR FAR FAR
 
 ....AAAH. You must be describing the latest follow camera in ESPN basketball. I´d like the game if I could see the action.
 
 Everyone is entitled to their opinion and I´m not going to knock ESPN as I think it is pretty solid, but anyone that thinks Live is garbage this year hasn´t played it enough IMO.

RAMMZZ · Post by **RAMMZZ** » Thu Oct 30, 2003 10:25 pm

Thats how I feel..thats how I see it..
 
 The man who started the thread asked and I was giving my honest unpaid for opinion...
 
 
 On the otherhand if he asked about NHL Id say go with EAs over Segas

Leebo33 · Post by **Leebo33** » Thu Oct 30, 2003 10:43 pm

That´s cool RAMMZZ, but when you start using all caps, about 20 exclamation points, and call one of the games garbage I´m not sure he will take you seriously anyway.

dbdynsty25 · Post by **dbdynsty25** » Thu Oct 30, 2003 10:49 pm

I also think that ESPN is better than LIVE...I just use the side camera and everything is fine. Sure I´d like to play behind the action but I can adapt. ESPN just seems to play a more accurate game of ball. I haven´t shot over 50% yet, even on Pro level. I can´t say that about any level in Live. Live is much improved but I think ESPN is better.

Leebo33 · Post by **Leebo33** » Thu Oct 30, 2003 11:09 pm

I hate the side camera and refuse to adjust. ESPN just isn´t fun enough for me to adapt after 3 years of playing from the follow camera (ironically enough, mostly on the 2k series).
 
 ESPN probably does play a more accurate brand of NBA ball. I´m not going to argue that. Maybe that is why I think it is boring (not counting the atmosphere). Last night there were 12 NBA games and 13 teams scored in the 70s or 80s. 10 of the 24 teams in action shot 40% or less! There was a game that had one team shoot 27% and the other 29%. What fun.
 
 I can get shooting percentages under 50% with very few slider adjustments (most of the shooting sliders in the 43-46 range), but your mileage may vary as I am not the most skilled gamer in the world and I rarely use the hop step. I don´t want to shoot over 50% except for the occassional fluke game, but I don´t want to play a game where I´m shooting 40% on average either even if it is more realistic.

RAMMZZ · Post by **RAMMZZ** » Thu Oct 30, 2003 11:49 pm

Umm
 I only used caps on 2 of the words...one of which was FAR(which I repeated 3 times....ya know emphasis on the crapiness of the game)
 But
 I will try to avoid caps ....if it means that much to people who read these threads.
 It doesnt change my opinon that I think NBA Live is garbage.
 [ This message was edited by: RAMMZZ on 30-10-2003 19:52 ]

Leebo33 · Post by **Leebo33** » Fri Oct 31, 2003 12:43 am

Keep the impressions coming. It really saves me a lot of time when I don´t have to worry about responding to anything of substance. It´s like reading Gamepro.

Cincinnati_Kid · Post by **Cincinnati_Kid** » Fri Oct 31, 2003 3:20 am

Inside Drive 2004....hands down <IMG SRC="images/forum/icons/icon_wink.gif">
 
 much like Leebo im enjoying Live but online was horrible....
 
 and im actually starting to get hyped up for ID
 
 last years was really one of my favorite games of the year
 
 and if i have no real online option i rather play ID offline then anything else
 
 if it continues to improve in the way it did last year....it should be smokin <IMG SRC="images/forum/icons/icon21.gif">

RAMMZZ · Post by **RAMMZZ** » Fri Oct 31, 2003 9:10 am

Dude
 Why so hostile?
 Do you work for EA?
 
 NHL 2004 is a better game than ESPN NHL....
 Does that make you feel better?????????
 or are you just going to keep attacking me cause I think NBA Live is CRAP???????????

pk500 · Post by **pk500** » Fri Oct 31, 2003 9:49 am

OK, boys, truce. Your pissing match is only going one place -- in the toilet.
 
 But as "The Rick" said in the famed ESPN ads about five or six years ago, "Let it go, let it go ... "
 
 Thanks,
 PK

Leebo33 · Post by **Leebo33** » Fri Oct 31, 2003 10:41 am

Sorry. I wasn´t looking for a pissing match. I´m just not used to people bashing a game in this forum and calling it garbage without backing it up with at least a few comments. I can go to IGN for that. I expect more from the posters here so I called you on it, but I guess that is not the case. I was not hostile towards YOU in any manner (just your post), but if you feel that way then I apologize.
 
 BTW, ESPN ROXXXXORRRSSSSSSS!!!!!
 
 OK, I´ll shut up now. [ This message was edited by: Leebo33 on 31-10-2003 06:43 ]

pk500 · Post by **pk500** » Fri Oct 31, 2003 11:22 am

Leeb:
 
 No fingers pointed, no worries.
 
 RAMMZZ:
 
 No fingers pointed, no worries. Just remember to have foundation and specifics to support your opinions in here, or you will be attacked like a lost, wounded fawn in a wolf´s den.
 
 Bring it, man, but bring your support ammo, too. <IMG SRC="images/forum/icons/icon_smile.gif">
 
 Post on. Rock on.
 
 Out,
 PK

davet010 · Post by **davet010** » Fri Oct 31, 2003 11:29 am

DaveT - Typical Brit
 
 Wander in nonchalantly, ask vague question, wander off again leaving fighting behind him that he proceeds not to get involved in.
 
 The British Empire in three lines...
 
 (you can tell I´m bored and it´s Friday afternoon, can´t you. One of our building contractors went bust yesterday, and I´m spending my time trying to find someone to complete £1m of building works <IMG SRC="images/forum/icons/icon_mad.gif"> )