Kerry needs to step up..............

[Jackdog]

for his party's sake and concede. The numbers are not there. This is nothing like 00. Bush has won the popular vote and the electoral college. This country doesn't need another election court battle.

Here in Ohio there is not enough provisional votes for Kerry to win the state. Mathematically it is impossible for Kerry to gain the 136,000 votes needed to win this state. That according to The State of Ohio election board.

I think the early exit polls killed Kerry in Ohio. The weather was bad and people thought Kerry was doing so well they didn't have to bother to show up. If the Kerry people leaked the exit pole data,it was a horriffic move.

For the sake of the country Kerry needs to do the right thing.

What do you guys think?

[James_E]

Mathematically it is impossible for Kerry to gain the 136,000 votes needed to win this state.

Then let them finish counting and declare Bush the winner officially. No need for Kerry to do anything. Isn't it better just to count all the votes and let the numbers speak?

[Jackdog]

Mathematically it is impossible for Kerry to gain the 136,000 votes needed to win this state.

Then let them finish counting and declare Bush the winner officially. No need for Kerry to do anything. Isn't it better just to count all the votes and let the numbers speak?

Its a sinking ship. The country wants finality. Kerry ran a great campaign,but he fell short. People around here are tired of politics right now. Ohio has been pounded with ad's and visits from both parties. We want it over.

Kerry is not a stupid man. He knows there is no chance. This is like watching a softball team get run ruled and refuse to leave the field. It's time to concede and try again in four years.

[Jackdog]

I just heard that only 48% of registered voters turned up at the polls. If thats true it's shameful.

[brendanrfoley]

JackDog:

If that number is true, I sincerely hope that 52 percent doesn't complain about who was elected.

The fact is, for one of the most hotly contested elections in a long time, when a great art of the country was ecpecting about a 70% turnout, and when it's a state that has been slammed by the bad economy, a 48% turnout is pretty sad.

It's really sad, actually.

[XXXIV]

Mathematically it is impossible for Kerry to gain the 136,000 votes needed to win this state.

Then let them finish counting and declare Bush the winner officially. No need for Kerry to do anything. Isn't it better just to count all the votes and let the numbers speak?

This is how they project elections .
They see when one guy has virtualy zero chance mathematically and then they award a state.

If everyone plays the lawyer game after every losing an election we will be screwed.

I am now sorry I didnt vote.
I now have dropped one guy below the other.

[Badgun]

An interesting point is that Kerry's margin of victory in Pennslylvania is smaller than Bush's in Ohio.

[Leebo33]

An interesting point is that Kerry's margin of victory in Pennslylvania is smaller than Bush's in Ohio.

Yes, that is indeed interesting. According to CNN's web site, the difference in PA is 121,818 and in Ohio it is 136,221.

[Teal]

"Isn't it better just to count all the votes and let the numbers speak?"




I agree with Jack. It really doesn't matter now, the numbers aren't there. I'm going to do absolutely no gloating, as my state was never in doubt, for one, and there's no need for that juvenile nonsense anyway. I'd say the same to the Bush camp if the situation was reversed-I really would. This is just not going to do anyone any good. The game is over...there's no need to stay on the field. I have to give Kerry and Edwards credit (actually all parties involved)- this was a clean election. The campaign got muddy, but election day, the two sides kept their professionalism, and at worst, according to Edwards small speech last night, this should be over today at the longest. The sooner the better...

[pk500]

Yeah, this nation already is divided enough. We don't need another mess like 2000.

Kerry should man up and concede.

On a positive note, Michael Badnarik earned nearly as many votes as Ralph Nader. Maybe the media and political establishment will stop sniffing Nader's jock and realize there are another third-party candidate and third party that are as worthy of attention and coverage as whatever party the ultimate political opportunist Nader latches on to in the future.

Take care,
PK

[JackB1]

I think it's insulting to announce a winner before each and every vote is
tabulated. Everyone needs to feel as though their vote counts and is important. I don't even think they should show any election results until the whole thing is done. Makes the people in the states where it is "mathematically" over feel like their vote is meaningless and noone should ever feel thier vote is meaningless.

[FatPitcher]

They've never waited until every vote was counted in the past. Many states are going to be counting overseas absentee ballots for more than a week, as they always have, but that doesn't stop the loser from conceding. Until now.

[sportdan30]

Now, it's officially over. Kerry conceded the election to President Bush. CNN is reporting he called the President on the phone.

Poor mother. She is soooooo depressed.

[JackB1]

that's true. I still don't think it's right.

They've never waited until every vote was counted in the past. Many states are going to be counting overseas absentee ballots for more than a week, as they always have, but that doesn't stop the loser from conceding. Until now.

[Airdog]

CNN's reporting that Kerry is about to concede.

[Airdog]

Sorry, he just did concede.

[Brando70]

I am obviously a very bitter man today, but I'm glad that what was a highly tense and partisan race appears to have ended in a peaceful, organized manner. I think it says a lot about our society that we can shout at each other for four years but still participate in elections without violence.

In all seriousness, I hope Bush is able to live up to his promises. I want us to remain safe, I want a peaceful resolution to Iraq, I want to find a way for Americans to have health care and secure retirements.

Now if you'll excuse me, I'm going to start drinking for the next four years

[TheFormerBrett44]

I think it's insulting to announce a winner before each and every vote is
tabulated. Everyone needs to feel as though their vote counts and is important. I don't even think they should show any election results until the whole thing is done.

That's fine, but I wonder how many people would like to wait 11-14 days for states to count all the absentee ballots, etc.

Brett

[TheFormerBrett44]

On a positive note, Michael Badnarik earned nearly as many votes as Ralph Nader.

I voted for him. Although if was more of a vote against Bush and Kerry. I used to vote straight ticket Republican, but Bush cured me of that habit. Even though I couldn't vote for Bush, in good conscience, I certainly couldn't vote for someone like John Kerry. So it was either vote for Badnarik or a write in vote for Ben Roethlisberger.

Brett

[Jackdog]

On a positive note, Michael Badnarik earned nearly as many votes as Ralph Nader.

I voted for him. Although if was more of a vote against Bush and Kerry. I used to vote straight ticket Republican, but Bush cured me of that habit. Even though I couldn't vote for Bush, in good conscience, I certainly couldn't vote for someone like John Kerry. So it was either vote for Badnarik or a write in vote for Ben Roethlisberger.

Brett

I also voted Badnarik. He did pretty good IMO.

Hats off to Kerry. Good move.

[Brando70]

On a positive note, Michael Badnarik earned nearly as many votes as Ralph Nader.

I voted for him. Although if was more of a vote against Bush and Kerry. I used to vote straight ticket Republican, but Bush cured me of that habit. Even though I couldn't vote for Bush, in good conscience, I certainly couldn't vote for someone like John Kerry. So it was either vote for Badnarik or a write in vote for Ben Roethlisberger.

Brett

I also voted Badnarik. He did pretty good IMO.

Hats off to Kerry. Good move.

Forget anchester's comments about this being an anti-Bush board, this place is crawling with Libertarians

[pk500]

On a positive note, Michael Badnarik earned nearly as many votes as Ralph Nader.

I voted for him. Although if was more of a vote against Bush and Kerry. I used to vote straight ticket Republican, but Bush cured me of that habit. Even though I couldn't vote for Bush, in good conscience, I certainly couldn't vote for someone like John Kerry. So it was either vote for Badnarik or a write in vote for Ben Roethlisberger.

Brett

Good deal, Brett! Hopefully some of Big Ben's luck and skill will rub off on Dubya, as he's going to need it to unite this country and avoid a big sh*tstorm over the next four years.

Take care,
PK

[James_E]

I have a question.

Kerry has conceded. What does that mean?

If they continue to count the votes, and by some miracle, all the votes are for Kerry and he officially takes Ohio... what happens? (I know it's not likely at all... just curious.)

[Jackdog]

I have a question.

Kerry has conceded. What does that mean?

If they continue to count the votes, and by some miracle, all the votes are for Kerry and he officially takes Ohio... what happens? (I know it's not likely at all... just curious.)

Monkey's will fly out of my ass.

[Teal]

"Monkey's will fly out of my ass."



yep, and then they'll turn around and fly UP mine...