College Football Discussion (for 10/9/04)

kevinpars · Post by **kevinpars** » Fri Oct 08, 2004 12:06 pm

Let me get things started with my 'bold' predictions:

I don't see Texas beating Oklahoma. Maybe it will be a close game, but I think the Sooners win. And i don't see either Tennessee or LSU bouncing back and winning on the road. Georgia and Florida hold serve.

USC won't get revenge with a big win over Cal, but I think they win as well.

I think the FSU - Syracuse game will be more interesting than people think.

And looking ahead to next Thursday, every time I hear someone say that Louisville could just beat Miami, I add another touchdown to the final score. Miami wins 45-10. Once a game involving an upstart underdog gets on Miami's radar, forget about it. Canes win with special teams and big plays and nobody changes their opinion of Brock Berlin.

fsquid · Post by **fsquid** » Fri Oct 08, 2004 12:08 pm

And looking ahead to next Thursday, every time I hear someone say that Louisville could just beat Miami, I add another touchdown to the final score. Miami wins 45-10. Once a game involving an upstart underdog gets on Miami's radar, forget about it. Canes win with special teams and big plays and nobody changes their opinion of Brock Berlin.

Loserville fans think they are going to go down there and put 30 or more up on Miami. I just don't see that happening.

dbdynsty25 · Post by **dbdynsty25** » Fri Oct 08, 2004 12:12 pm

People don't realize that Miami has only given up 1 TD this year...ONE...and that's only cuz the offense turned the ball over on their own 20. That defense is the best in the nation. It's ridiculous how good they are. Just ask Chris Rix and Reggie Ball. If Miami loses it'll be a game where there is like 20 total points.

BTW Kevin, Berlin is going to start turning it around. Did you watch last weeks game? He looked mighty impressive. The loss of Erik Winston is going to hurt more than people think though. Nothing like losing your starting left guard to a season ending knee injury, freeing up Brock Berlin's blind side. That will hurt...but not Thursday.

Neckthai · Post by **Neckthai** » Fri Oct 08, 2004 12:38 pm

Do you not count the touchdown the offense gave up to FSU?

wco81 · Post by **wco81** » Fri Oct 08, 2004 12:49 pm

Well Cal has had a good run.

But one stark fact is that its defense doesn't have any likely NFL players while USC's defense is full of them.

The offense is good but may not be good enough.

EDIT: And of course USC wants payback for last year.

So Cal will have to shoot for a second-tier bowl this year. Just hoping they acquit themselves well so that it helps recruiting. Tedford has a great record of getting QBs drafted high in the NFL draft.

Of course, once they get there, it's another thing.

dbdynsty25 · Post by **dbdynsty25** » Fri Oct 08, 2004 12:50 pm

Neckthai wrote:Do you not count the touchdown the offense gave up to FSU?

Um, why would I?

bdoughty · Post by **bdoughty** » Fri Oct 08, 2004 2:05 pm

The So Miss - Houston game was a pretty fun one to watch last night.

Less the 24 hours until the Red River Shootout.

fsquid · Post by **fsquid** » Fri Oct 08, 2004 2:21 pm

bdoughty wrote:The So Miss - Houston game was a pretty fun one to watch last night.

Less the 24 hours until the Red River Shootout.

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don't tell me that you stooped low enough to watch a C-USA game.

bdoughty · Post by **bdoughty** » Fri Oct 08, 2004 2:28 pm

fsquid wrote:
bdoughty wrote:The So Miss - Houston game was a pretty fun one to watch last night.

Less the 24 hours until the Red River Shootout.
don't tell me that you stooped low enough to watch a C-USA game.

I always find watching non-BCS teams refreshing. They do not have the pressure of National Titles and Big Bowl games. They simply play for the love of the game. (/teary-eyed reply)

fsquid · Post by **fsquid** » Fri Oct 08, 2004 2:40 pm

that's one way to look at it.

jujuhound76 · Post by **jujuhound76** » Fri Oct 08, 2004 3:45 pm

wco81 wrote:Well Cal has had a good run.

But one stark fact is that its defense doesn't have any likely NFL players while USC's defense is full of them.

The offense is good but may not be good enough.

EDIT: And of course USC wants payback for last year.

So Cal will have to shoot for a second-tier bowl this year. Just hoping they acquit themselves well so that it helps recruiting. Tedford has a great record of getting QBs drafted high in the NFL draft.

Of course, once they get there, it's another thing.

Penn State continues to send plenty of guys to the pros even though they haven't been good in years. Miami sent a bunch of guys to the NFL in the first couple rounds last year, but they didn't have nearly as strong a team as usual. I don't think that is the best measure of what makes a good college team. I think this is going to be a great game with USC pulling it out in the end.

OU over Texas (not as close as many are predicting)
Minn over Michigan
Florida over Lsu
Ohio State over Wisc (close and boring)
Vols over Georgia

bdoughty · Post by **bdoughty** » Sat Oct 09, 2004 3:35 pm

Consecutive wins over Texas - 5

Yards by True Freshman Running Back - 222

Silencing all the doubters of OU's defense by pitching a shutout against the #5 team in the nation, who had not been shutout since 1980 - PRICELESS

Man those 60 point games were fun but this one tops them all. OU simply dominated the O and D Lines. Just lined up and said stop the run and Texas could not do it.

Neckthai · Post by **Neckthai** » Sat Oct 09, 2004 3:38 pm

To loosely quote Pedro...Mack Brown can just call Bob Stoops his daddy.

Looks like the Sooners will win the South, barring a breakdown by Jason White. Who's the backup? Rhett Bomar?

dbdynsty25 · Post by **dbdynsty25** » Sat Oct 09, 2004 3:41 pm

bdoughty wrote:Man those 60 point games were fun but this one tops them all. OU simply dominated the O and D Lines. Just lined up and said stop the run and Texas could not do it.

Yawn. Big 12 football is like AL baseball...boring as hell.

XXXIV · Post by **XXXIV** » Sat Oct 09, 2004 3:42 pm

OUs D=Impressive
Peterson= Impressive
OUs Oline= Impressive

White on the otherhand seems to just get worse.
He makes some really dumb decisions.

Id love to see OU and USC win out.

Michigan vs Minnesota was a great flip to game.

bdoughty · Post by **bdoughty** » Sat Oct 09, 2004 3:49 pm

Neckthai wrote:To loosely quote Pedro...Mack Brown can just call Bob Stoops his daddy.

Looks like the Sooners will win the South, barring a breakdown by Jason White. Who's the backup? Rhett Bomar?

Nope Paul Thompson is and many think he is just as good. Bomar only goes in if there is a blowout. Peterson is being redshirted but if White gets injured then he will come in and lose the redshirt.

Man you guys are kinda hard on White. He was not stellar but he did not need to be when they ran the ball so much and did not need to pass. Hard to get in a flow when you are only throwing on 3rd down. Guess you have to find something to pick at with OU.

bdoughty · Post by **bdoughty** » Sat Oct 09, 2004 3:51 pm

dbdynsty25 wrote:
bdoughty wrote:Man those 60 point games were fun but this one tops them all. OU simply dominated the O and D Lines. Just lined up and said stop the run and Texas could not do it.
Yawn. Big 12 football is like AL baseball...boring as hell.

Oh and that Miami-FSU game was a real thrillride.

dbdynsty25 · Post by **dbdynsty25** » Sat Oct 09, 2004 3:53 pm

bdoughty wrote:Oh and that Miami-FSU game was a real thrillride.

That game was boring as hell too...I never said EVERY game outside of the Big12 is a barn burner did I?

bdoughty · Post by **bdoughty** » Sat Oct 09, 2004 4:00 pm

dbdynsty25 wrote:
bdoughty wrote:Oh and that Miami-FSU game was a real thrillride.
That game was boring as hell too...I never said EVERY game outside of the Big12 is a barn burner did I?

Well unlike yourself I am not able to make such a generalization since I have not been able to watch every Big 12 and ACC game to make such a statement. Therefore I picked out the team you love so much and the limited viewing I have had with theml. Of course it was just DB trying to be sarcastic and funny without accomplishing either.

Ha Ha you got my laugh. Feel better? Good.

Back to enjoying my win. Presses mute button on DB's posts the rest of the day.

dbdynsty25 · Post by **dbdynsty25** » Sat Oct 09, 2004 4:08 pm

bdoughty wrote:Back to enjoying my win. Presses mute button on DB's posts the rest of the day.

It's really too bad you cant turn the power off. Then at least you won't get the visual either.

fsquid · Post by **fsquid** » Sat Oct 09, 2004 5:59 pm

army breaks the nation's longest losing streak by beating Cincy 48-29.

ddtrane · Post by **ddtrane** » Sun Oct 10, 2004 2:39 am

OK State goes into Boulder and gets the job done. I follow the Pokes, but Donovan Woods kinda reminds me of V Young. They both lack downfield passing skills. Oh yea FSU- Fresno St. we hardly knew ye, especially after this latest flame out against UTEP. Peace

bdoughty · Post by **bdoughty** » Sun Oct 10, 2004 4:12 am

Definately good to see Army get off the losing streak. Ohio St and that sleep inducing offense loses 2 straight. SEC was full of upsets. Congrats to Tennessee for exposing Georgia for the team they really are and LSU for the bounceback over Florida. I guess Aururn might be the real deal in the SEC.

Penn St and Syracuse were oh so close to being the spoilers.

As mentioned above FSU gets beat at HOME against UTEP. Ouch. And yes Oklahoma St looked pretty good once again as did Texas A&M both teams OU has to play on the road. Kansas beats KSU.

But the score of the week - Texas Tech 70 Nebraska 10. Texas has to go to Lubbock, I smell yet another Red Raider upset.

Notre Dame and Navy next week is what I am looking forward to.

Wisconsin at Purdue and Arizona St at USC will also be good games.

dbdynsty25 · Post by **dbdynsty25** » Sun Oct 10, 2004 4:19 am

bdoughty wrote:Wisconsin at Purdue and Arizona St at USC will also be good games.

Got my tickets to the USC/ASU game. Should be fun watching the #1 team in the country get beat.

Leebo33 · Post by **Leebo33** » Sun Oct 10, 2004 9:16 am

fsquid wrote:army breaks the nation's longest losing streak by beating Cincy 48-29.

Yeah! My cousin-in-law is a freshman on the team there. He's seeing some action on special teams. I can't wait to see him play, although I doubt I will make it up this year.