Another NFL *sshole (McGahee)

dougb · Post by **dougb** » Fri Aug 20, 2004 5:32 pm

Lets see,

The Bills decide to take a chance on a player with a serious knee injury. They sign him, pay him, and provide rehab for an entire year while he recovers. He then turns around in the midst of training camp and demands to be the starter or traded.

Class act McGahee! F*ck him.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2004/f ... index.html

Best wishes,

Doug

snate · Post by **snate** » Fri Aug 20, 2004 6:01 pm

I've heard this report is total bullshit. So lets not throw him under the bus until we hear it from him.

BBReBozo · Post by **BBReBozo** » Fri Aug 20, 2004 6:03 pm

I heard the reverse -- that Travis Henry, upset that he might lose the starting job to McGahee, was asking to be traded.

pk500 · Post by **pk500** » Fri Aug 20, 2004 6:03 pm

As an ardent Bills' fan, I've seen nothing to indicate this is true. McGahee has worked hard and kept his mouth shut for the most part during camp this year, and I read a lot of the wire stories and other Web stories about the Bills.

This could be true, but I'd like to hear it from McGahee or get an on-the-record source to confirm it before I believe it.

Take care,
PK

dbdynsty25 · Post by **dbdynsty25** » Fri Aug 20, 2004 6:23 pm

I've heard that it was Henry who was complaining.

McGahee is a much better back anyway. He's just got to prove his knee is healthy and then you can bet that Henry will get traded.

I think this 'rumor' is because Willis is a former Hurricane. Seems like any and every newspaper tries to make stories something they aren't when it involves Hurricanes. Even this whole Winslow Jr. thing was blown out of proportion because of the school he went to. In reality, I think it has more to do with the dumbass agents he's hired. The Postons have been demanding more money for almost all of thier clients...they are more of an issue than the players themselves. The media decides not to place the blame on them, just the selfish atheletes.

Toper · Post by **Toper** » Fri Aug 20, 2004 6:31 pm

dbdynsty25 wrote:In reality, I think it has more to do with the dumbass agents he's hired. The Postons have been demanding more money for almost all of thier clients...they are more of an issue than the players themselves. The media decides not to place the blame on them, just the selfish atheletes.

Last time I checked, agents work for the athletes they represent. So if an agent is going after the big bucks, I'm pretty sure they have their client's approval to do so.

Toper

dbdynsty25 · Post by **dbdynsty25** » Fri Aug 20, 2004 6:47 pm

Toper wrote:Last time I checked, agents work for the athletes they represent. So if an agent is going after the big bucks, I'm pretty sure they have their client's approval to do so.

How profound...of course the athlete is going to allow them to find more money. The agents are the ones convincing the guys that they are better than they really are. Sure, the athletes aren't completely innocent, but I think the agents have a bigger role that most people think.

Badgun · Post by **Badgun** » Fri Aug 20, 2004 6:50 pm

dbdynsty25 wrote:I've heard that it was Henry who was complaining.

McGahee is a much better back anyway. He's just got to prove his knee is healthy and then you can bet that Henry will get traded.

McGahee is a better back based on what? Potential? His senior year at Miami? Da*n, db I think that Miami sh*t is getting in your eyes or something.

McGahee has done nothing in the NFL and Henry has put up 1400 yards two years in a row and you're saying McGahee is better?

Please do tell, I have GOT to hear this one.

Toper · Post by **Toper** » Fri Aug 20, 2004 7:04 pm

dbdynsty25 wrote:
Toper wrote:Last time I checked, agents work for the athletes they represent. So if an agent is going after the big bucks, I'm pretty sure they have their client's approval to do so.
How profound...of course the athlete is going to allow them to find more money. The agents are the ones convincing the guys that they are better than they really are. Sure, the athletes aren't completely innocent, but I think the agents have a bigger role that most people think.

First you complain that the media makes the athletes look unfairly selfish, then you say athletes aren't completely innocent: Make up your mind.

My point is that as the client, the athlete has the final say...but I agree that both parties are "parasiting" off the other for their own good.

Toper

Boom · Post by **Boom** » Fri Aug 20, 2004 7:04 pm

Henry is one of the most underrated running back's in the NFL by general fan consensus. Never gets any of the credit he deserves.

Last year Henry WAS Buffalo's offense. It surely wasn't Drew, it surely wasn't Moulds and it surely wasn't Reed.

Henry set a Bills record last year by scoring 6 TD's in their first 2 games of the the season. He also played part of the season with a small fracture in his leg.

You give me my pick right now and I take Henry in a heartbeat.

Too much is being made of McGahee's 13 carries for 51 yards. While he did look good in the process, noobody seems to mention that those 13 carries came against the Bronco's 2nd and 3rd defenses.

dbdynsty25 · Post by **dbdynsty25** » Fri Aug 20, 2004 7:15 pm

Boom wrote:You give me my pick right now and I take Henry in a heartbeat.

And he carried them all the way to the postseason too right?

McGahee will be a better back than Henry. Mark it down. I've seen Willis play quite a few times due to my favorite college program happening to be the one he attended and he's got a lot more 'raw' skill than Henry. Think Portis, but with more moves.

Bills fans will be saying the same thing after this season.

BTW, how many times did Henry fumble...isn't he one of the worst in the league in terms of carries per fumble average?

Boom · Post by **Boom** » Fri Aug 20, 2004 7:22 pm

BTW, how many times did Henry fumble...isn't he one of the worst in the league in terms of carries per fumble average?

That is so two year's ago. He didn't have that problem last year.

Now, tell me one back that can run a team to th playoffs when they have no other offense to speak of. Tell me what portis does this year behind that weakass line in DC.

Willis was a wasted draft pick when they should have been drafting an O-line. Not only would Henry have benefitted from it, but Drew as well. The most sacked QB in the past 2 years. Not surprising considering Johnson was the most sacked qb the year before.. .oh also in Buffalo.l

Toper · Post by **Toper** » Fri Aug 20, 2004 7:23 pm

dbdynsty25 wrote:
Boom wrote:You give me my pick right now and I take Henry in a heartbeat.
And he carried them all the way to the postseason too right?

McGahee will be a better back than Henry. Mark it down. I've seen Willis play quite a few times due to my favorite college program happening to be the one he attended and he's got a lot more 'raw' skill than Henry. Think Portis, but with more moves.

So by your logic, I guess you don't think highly of Tomlinson either?

I sure would love to be in a fantasy league with you...I take it you would draft mcgahee over portis then, since he has "more moves".

Toper

pk500 · Post by **pk500** » Fri Aug 20, 2004 9:12 pm

I've been a huge Bills' fan since 1973, and it's just wrong to call McGahee a better NFL running back than Henry right now. Way off base.

As everyone has said, Henry was the Bills' offense last year. The dude put up major yards playing with a broken leg behind a pathetic offensive line in lousy weather during late November and December in Buffalo.

Now, what has McGahee done in the NFL? That's right -- scored four TD's in a scrimmage against Cleveland.

I'm not one of these "McGahee was a wasted pick" pundits. But I'm also not ready to anoint the kid as the Bills' top running back before he's even taken a handoff in an NFL regular-season game.

As for McGahee's college exploits, he was superb. But he also benefited from Miami's strong passing game with Dorsey, which took pressure off McGahee and helped open holes for him. He also had a fine offensive line in front of him.

Last year, defenses could key on Henry because Bledsoe was so mediocre and because the Bills' O line sucked. And the guy still rushed for 1,356 yards in 15 games -- with a broken leg.

When McGahee matches that kind of output, then I'll call him the featured back in the Bills' offense. I'm not saying it won't happen; I'd be tickled if it did. But it hasn't happened yet.

Rookies need to prove their worth to me. McGahee hasn't -- yet.

P.S.: Henry lost three fumbles all of last year. The great Ricky Williams lost five.

Take care,
PK

Badgun · Post by **Badgun** » Fri Aug 20, 2004 9:44 pm

pk500 wrote:I've been a huge Bills' fan since 1973, and it's just wrong to call McGahee a better NFL running back than Henry right now. Way off base.

As everyone has said, Henry was the Bills' offense last year. The dude put up major yards playing with a broken leg behind a pathetic offensive line in lousy weather during late November and December in Buffalo.

Now, what has McGahee done in the NFL? That's right -- scored four TD's in a scrimmage against Cleveland.

I'm not one of these "McGahee was a wasted pick" pundits. But I'm also not ready to anoint the kid as the Bills' top running back before he's even taken a handoff in an NFL regular-season game.

As for McGahee's college exploits, he was superb. But he also benefited from Miami's strong passing game with Dorsey, which took pressure off McGahee and helped open holes for him. He also had a fine offensive line in front of him.

Last year, defenses could key on Henry because Bledsoe was so mediocre and because the Bills' O line sucked. And the guy still rushed for 1,356 yards in 15 games -- with a broken leg.

When McGahee matches that kind of output, then I'll call him the featured back in the Bills' offense. I'm not saying it won't happen; I'd be tickled if it did. But it hasn't happened yet.

Rookies need to prove their worth to me. McGahee hasn't -- yet.

P.S.: Henry lost three fumbles all of last year. The great Ricky Williams lost five.

Take care,
PK

Not to mention Henry's caught 71 passes the last two years. I'm sure McGahee is going to surpass those receiving numbers, too.

Think Clinton Portis, except with no class.

dbdynsty25 · Post by **dbdynsty25** » Sat Aug 21, 2004 2:09 am

You guys are a sensitive bunch...

I simply said he will be better. Maybe not this second, maybe not tomorrow...but HE WILL be a better back when it's all said and done.

dbdynsty25 · Post by **dbdynsty25** » Sat Aug 21, 2004 2:10 am

pk500 wrote:P.S.: Henry lost three fumbles all of last year. The great Ricky Williams lost five.

I never once said Ricky could take care of the ball.

bdoughty · Post by **bdoughty** » Sat Aug 21, 2004 2:24 am

dbdynsty25 wrote:You guys are a sensitive bunch...

I simply said he will be better. Maybe not this second, maybe not tomorrow...but HE WILL be a better back when it's all said and done.

When you are through with your crystal ball please send it to me. I need to find out if Ben Roethlisberger is going to lead my Steelers to the promise land.

dbdynsty25 · Post by **dbdynsty25** » Sat Aug 21, 2004 2:30 am

It says:

He will not pan out. Think Todd Marinovich.

A little weed...a few starts...and a pissed off Bill Cowher are in your future.

bdoughty · Post by **bdoughty** » Sat Aug 21, 2004 2:39 am

Well that sucks. I was hoping they would keep that kid away from Plaxico Burress "parties".

Badgun · Post by **Badgun** » Sat Aug 21, 2004 8:52 am

dbdynsty25 wrote:You guys are a sensitive bunch...

I simply said he will be better. Maybe not this second, maybe not tomorrow...but HE WILL be a better back when it's all said and done.

No, you implied that he should get the job NOW and that Henry should be gone. Maybe that's not what you meant, but that's how it looked to me.

Badgun · Post by **Badgun** » Sat Aug 21, 2004 8:54 am

dbdynsty25 wrote:It says:

He will not pan out. Think Todd Marinovich.

A little weed...a few starts...and a pissed off Bill Cowher are in your future.

SOmehow I can visualize that.

tjung0831 · Post by **tjung0831** » Sat Aug 21, 2004 9:54 am

dbdynsty25 wrote:You guys are a sensitive bunch...

I simply said he will be better. Maybe not this second, maybe not tomorrow...but HE WILL be a better back when it's all said and done.

You must be hitting the weed as well because your original statement was that Mcgahee is a better back. In your mind, Ken Dorsey is probably already an NFL hall of famer.

Tim

dbdynsty25 · Post by **dbdynsty25** » Sat Aug 21, 2004 1:22 pm

tjung0831 wrote:You must be hitting the weed as well because your original statement was that Mcgahee is a better back. In your mind, Ken Dorsey is probably already an NFL hall of famer.

Nah...Dorsey doesn't really have the arm strength to play at a high level in the NFL. Someday he may be a starter, but he's not going to put up numbers. He's a great leader though so he may put up some wins...but he will never become a hall of famer.

Don't you have a game to rip after playing it at a kiosk for a min. or two?