my ultimate expires mid this month but not sure I want to pay 30 bucks a month for this. I don't really care about the ubisoft games. EA play is tied into only ultimate so its not like I can get premium with EA Play. Maybe better just to go with essential since it still offers cloud gaming and pay separately for EA Play which is a flat $40 for a year.
called target and they still are selling the 'old' 3 months sub to GPU for $60 - which is still way too much but I guess if you want to renew GPU and don't want to get raped by these new prices that's an option.
then thought about it some more and f@ck em! I probably won't pay for s*** now. pretty much this generation of consoles has sucked. maybe it's finally time to jump on the PC train.
Thanks for posting. I was already debating changing to the lowest when they allowed cloud gaming on the lowest a couple months ago. Now this makes my decision for me.
JOZ wrote: Wed Oct 01, 2025 1:16 pm
Thanks for posting. I was already debating changing to the lowest when they allowed cloud gaming on the lowest a couple months ago. Now this makes my decision for me.
this is how f***in crazy I am. I actually went to my local target like half hour ago to buy one of the old GPU cards but the guy told me they pulled all of them in the morning.
yeah i may just go with essential now but they didnt list if all the games will be available on essential. I really just want MSFS2020 on cloud essential. not sure how to find out.
I think this will force ppl go buy games again. Right now, I'm thinking of doing Essential at 10bucks a month, $40 EA Play yearly sub, and that's it. If I have to go buy MSFS 2020 then I'll just buy a used copy.
target online still works. you can get GPU for 3 months for $60. Maybe I'll do that and have it til the end of the year. but part of me is like why the F would I want to give money to MS after they pull this bullshit.
Not sure if they will have xmas deals on gamepass like sony does on PS PLUS around holiday time.
Man after being a xbox fan boy for 20 years this a real spit in the face to us.
I have core and just purchased Hades.. not a huge deal, but I see it's included on 'Essential' now. They are going to kill off many XBGP users with this crap. Thankfully, essential is still the same price as core.
MizzouRah wrote: Wed Oct 01, 2025 3:56 pm
I have core and just purchased Hades.. not a huge deal, but I see it's included on 'Essential' now. They are going to kill off many XBGP users with this crap. Thankfully, essential is still the same price as core.
For Core/Essential do you get all the gamepass games except the first day release games?
Thanks, went on Amazon and bought 6 digital cards (limit 2 per purchased) they are $59.99 each so that's basically a month free with this new crappy pricing structure.
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I had finally dropped to core at the end of September, so this ended up better for me, since the game selection is a bit more.
But also, instead of $10 more for a game library and cloud gaming, it's only $5. I always knew GPU was going to have a big increase someday, and I think most signs were pointing to it happening now, during the last half of another gen they lost. Since publishers and devs weren't thrilled with their returns, doubling GPU for the Day One games makes sense. More money to publishers and fewer games, customers taking that path, so publishers still have Day One customers to sell to.
I wouldn't be surprised if they are actually trying to phase out Ultimate.
Free Xbox Cloud, But There Are Catches
In a report from The Verge’s Tom Warren, it was claimed that sources close to Microsoft have started trialling a free Xbox Cloud Gaming service, devoid of a subscription and supported by ad revenue.
Warren writes:
Sources tell me the internal testing includes around two minutes of preroll ads before a game is available to stream for free through Xbox Cloud Gaming. Microsoft is also currently testing a limit of one hour for sessions, with up to five hours free a month. These limits may well change when the service is officially launched.
1 hour per session and 5 hours a month? with ads? I guess we should be happy since it's 'free'. knowing MS nothing will be free.
Did MS just decide to piss off all it's loyal customers for the last 2 decades this week? All over the xbox reddit subs people are reacting similarily like myself - long time Xbox supporters fanboys who are now considering dropping the entire brand.
sure feels like they're transitioning to console-less next gen. why keep supporting them when they're giving up? it's like we're on a sinking ship.
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and while I was typing this post up - XBOX with another L
Eh, it's actually a better deal for me in the middle tier at $15 per month than $20 per month currently for Ultimate or $30 for the new Ultimate plan.
I own every EA game I play -- College Football 25, F1 2020, WRC and Battlefield 2042 -- and I don't give a flip about Ubisoft+ since my son owns nearly every Assassin's Creed game and all Watch Dogs games, Rainbow Six is a damn joke now, I own the good Ghost Recons, and Far Cry is a mediocre franchise.
As for Day One games, there's absolutely nothing dropping on Day One in the next three months that interests me in the slightest. Plus, there are still 375 games available on the Premium tier, which is more than enough, with all Day One games except for the Call of Duty series dropping within a year of release.
That's fine. I'm patient. New releases no longer get me excited unless it's a monster like GTA or a total niche game for me like Isle of Man TT.
The Essential tier is a joke. Garbage games available. You're basically paying for online gaming and patches with that level. But Ultimate is a total ripoff unless gaming is the most important hobby in your life, which it most definitely is not for me.
Gaming doesn't mean NEARLY as much to me as it did 20 or even 10 years ago. Premium hits the sweet spot for my current gaming life, and I'll save $5 per month over what I pay now for Ultimate. That's $60 I can use to buy anywhere from nearly one full-price games to probably close to five games in a Microsoft Store sale. Bonus.
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I really think Microsoft likes the Day Ones because it sell subs, but publishers are not happy. I think they needed to limit how many people take advantage of the Day Ones, while also giving publishers a better deal.
In the end, as PK said, Premium is the sweet spot, and it’s cheaper than Ultimate.
Remember how we actually got here. Microsoft did the unthinkable, and charged gamers to play online, with Xbox Live subs. Sony was free, but people clearly preferred Xbox Live. When Sony realized they needed to charge for online to match Xbox, they had to sweeten the deal with games because they had beaten Microsoft up so hard over it.
Then Microsoft finally matched Sony with Xbox Live Gold. I hated this because the money going into Xbox Live used to be 100% for online play, but now it is going to marketing.
We never needed the online service to be about free games, and now, that’s what it seems like it is all about.
EA Play is available separately. But I stopped caring about getting the games early and all that jazz.
I didn't read or watch one thing about Madden this year before getting it. Sports games, in particular, are so much better when you avoid all the lead-up and drama when it drops. Madden 26 and NHL 26 both feel like big improvements to gameplay to me.
what about the EA Play 10 hour game trials you covet? You won't have access to it anymore with premium.
Could care less.
Since when have I coveted the free trials, especially when most are rehashes of the previous year and I can get a sense for the quality and the upgrades of the new game from the endless opinions spouted about them online? You really think I'd pay an extra $180 per year so I can play three or four EA Play trials? LOL. That's f*cking stupid; the trials are nice but not essential.
EA has so few good, fresh franchises left that it really doesn't matter.
NHL has sucked for a decade. CFB took a step backward this year. Madden is Madden -- same sh*t, different year, with a few tweaks. FIFA had a major overhaul two years ago and probably won't be touched other than tweaks for another three years before enough people moan about lack of realism to warrant another overhaul. F1 has been run aground by mainstream desires and BS story modes. PGA Tour and WRC are very good, but neither is getting annual upgrades, which probably is a good thing. Battlefield is a good franchise, but it's not exactly innovative, and I'll just wait for a sale.
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what about the EA Play 10 hour game trials you covet? You won't have access to it anymore with premium.
Could care less.
Since when have I coveted the free trials,
ok, i see. i was just going off the millions of times you posted 'thank god for ea play! I saved $70 by not buying this EA expletive 1 expletive 2 expletive 3 game'.