Hockey Night In DSP 2024-2025

[Lancer]

BUT if the Oilers GM/Front Office had any real balls and got McDavid a legit star to play besides him , then McDavid wins 4/5/6 cups in the next 6-7 years. I don't know what they're thinking up there but seems like they're satisfied with 1 or 2 cups when they can get like 5 or 6 cups.

OK, you've just proven you don't know sh*t about the Oilers and hockey. Congratulations.

Let me introduce you to Leon Draisaitl. Wears No. 29. Won the Hart Trophy as NHL MVP and the Art Ross Trophy as the leading scorer in the league in 2020. Won the Rocket Richard Award this season as the leading goal scorer in the league. He was the second-leading goal scorer in the league in 2019 and 2022 and the second-leading point scorer in 2021.

Oh, and he's one of the three finalists for the Hart Trophy this season. You know who's not? Connor McDavid.

Draisaitl and McDavid have been teammates for McDavid's entire career in Edmonton, as the Oilers drafted McDavid a year after they drafted Draisaitl. Thanks for playing.

Oh, but while we're at it, Evan Bouchard is the third-highest scoring defenseman in the NHL the last two seasons, behind only Cale Makar and Quinn Hughes. I rip his defense at times in here and justifiably so, but he is blossoming into a star as an offensive defenseman.

Finally, please find me an NHL team that won four, five or six cups in a six- or seven-year span since Edmonton from 1984-90. You can't because free agency and the salary cap have neutered dynasties. Blackhawks won three in five years, which is the closest you can find. I guess having Kane, Toews and Keith as superstars at their respective peaks wasn't enough to match your definition of brilliance.

But you knew that because of your formula, right?

oh here come the insults.

ya Draisaitl isn't a star. He's a good player. That's about it.

and yes i don't follow the oilers or even give a s*** about them. I see every team from 100000 feet level which makes my perpsective more legit than yours since you watch 71+ games and get into the weeds but can't see the forest.

Oilers are blowing a golden chance at a dynasty. They can maybe win 1 or 2 cups w/ this team but they're blowing the chance to be historic.

[pk500]

If spewing facts are seen as insults in your world, then I'm honored to be incredibly insulting.

Jesus F. Christ: If Leon Draisaitl retired today, he would be a shoo-in first-ballot Hall of Famer in five years. Here's another little insult disguised as a fact, too -- a list of the top five scorers in the NHL from June 3, 2020 to June 3, 2025:

1. Connor McDavid 613
2. Leon Draisaitl 534
3. Nathan McKinnon 520
4. Artemi Panarin 455
5. Mikko Rantanen 455

Yet, "the formula" says Draisaitl isn't a star. That's just adorable.

And again, point me to a team that has won five or six Cups in seven years in the salary cap, free-agency era. Crosby, Malkin and Letang couldn't do it together. Toews, Kane and Keith couldn't do it, either. Nor could Stamkos, Kucherov and Hedman. (Go ahead, scurry to Google to look up for which teams they played.) But I guess none of those players were "stars" even though they're all Hall of Fame locks except for Letang, right?

I need to try your "formula" for a retirement job. "Hey, I never went to med school, but let me do open-heart surgery on this dude because I've watched a few YouTube videos. All your medical training and residency have you way too far in the weeds to know how to do this better than me. My perspective is way more legit than yours."

PLEASE continue to post your wisdom, Puckstradamus. You amuse me to no end, and free entertainment is hard to find these days.

[Lancer]

If spewing facts are seen as insults in your world, then I'm honored to be incredibly insulting.

Jesus F. Christ: If Leon Draisaitl retired today, he would be a shoo-in first-ballot Hall of Famer in five years. Here's another little insult disguised as a fact, too -- a list of the top five scorers in the NHL from June 3, 2020 to June 3, 2025:

1. Connor McDavid 613
2. Leon Draisaitl 534
3. Nathan McKinnon 520
4. Artemi Panarin 455
5. Mikko Rantanen 455

Yet, "the formula" says Draisaitl isn't a star. That's just adorable.

And again, point me to a team that has won five or six Cups in seven years in the salary cap, free-agency era. Crosby, Malkin and Letang couldn't do it together. Toews, Kane and Keith couldn't do it, either. Nor could Stamkos, Kucherov and Hedman. (Go ahead, scurry to Google to look up for which teams they played.) But I guess none of those players were "stars" even though they're all Hall of Fame locks except for Letang, right?

I need to try your "formula" for a retirement job. "Hey, I never went to med school, but let me do open-heart surgery on this dude because I've watched a few YouTube videos. All your medical training and residency have you way too far in the weeds to know how to do this better than me. My perspective is way more legit than yours."

PLEASE continue to post your wisdom, Puckstradamus. You amuse me to no end, and free entertainment is hard to find these days.

why yo so mad?

No team has done that since NO TEAM had a talent like McDavid. McDavid is Jordan or Brady where you surround him with the right STARS, you win 4/5/6 rings and have a dynasty.

[Diablo25]

Dude, just take the L already. It’s tiresome reading your “takes”. Its insulting to people who actually watch the sport and grind out the season because we love watching the entire campaign unfold.

[pk500]

why yo so mad?

No team has done that since NO TEAM had a talent like McDavid. McDavid is Jordan or Brady where you surround him with the right STARS, you win 4/5/6 rings and have a dynasty.

I'm not mad. I just don't suffer fools gladly.

And if you had one f*cking clue, you would know the NHL has a HARD salary cap, unlike the NFL or NBA. The limit is the limit; there are no Bird rights, no franchise tag, no creative accounting, no luxury tax. Teams CANNOT exceed the cap without significant penalties, not taxes.

You'd also know NBA player contracts are limited to four years, with a fifth year possible if a player stays with his current team or a sixth year RARELY for designated veteran contracts. NHL max deals are seven years for players signed from other teams, eight if they stay. NFL contracts can be longer in terms but almost never fully guaranteed, so teams can shed contracts of aging, fading stars much more easily. NHL and NBA contracts are fully guaranteed.

That makes it VERY difficult to build NHL dynasties because the contract terms are longer and guaranteed, and superstars don't move as much as they do in the NBA. Hockey players actually honor contracts, unlike NBA players.

The Oilers locked up the "good, not great" Draisaitl -- your analysis of one of the five best players in the world is perhaps the funniest thing I've read on this forum in years -- for an eight-year deal before this season and will do the same with McDavid sometime next season, the last year of his current deal.

Given the hard cap, two max deals on the same roster (with Bouchard also looking at commanding $10 million per in his next deal), what superstars must the Oilers sign to reach ice nirvana, Puckstradamus?

[Lancer]

why yo so mad?

No team has done that since NO TEAM had a talent like McDavid. McDavid is Jordan or Brady where you surround him with the right STARS, you win 4/5/6 rings and have a dynasty.

I'm not mad. I just don't suffer fools gladly.

And if you had one f*cking clue, you would know the NHL has a HARD salary cap, unlike the NFL or NBA. The limit is the limit; there are no Bird rights, no franchise tag, no creative accounting, no luxury tax. Teams CANNOT exceed the cap without significant penalties, not taxes.

You'd also know NBA player contracts are limited to four years, with a fifth year possible if a player stays with his current team or a sixth year RARELY for designated veteran contracts. NHL max deals are seven years for players signed from other teams, eight if they stay. NFL contracts can be longer in terms but almost never fully guaranteed, so teams can shed contracts of aging, fading stars much more easily. NHL and NBA contracts are fully guaranteed.

That makes it VERY difficult to build NHL dynasties because the contract terms are longer and guaranteed, and superstars don't move as much as they do in the NBA. Hockey players actually honor contracts, unlike NBA players.

The Oilers locked up the "good, not great" Draisaitl -- your analysis of one of the five best players in the world is perhaps the funniest thing I've read on this forum in years -- for an eight-year deal before this season and will do the same with McDavid sometime next season, the last year of his current deal.

Given the hard cap, two max deals on the same roster (with Bouchard also looking at commanding $10 million per in his next deal), what superstars must the Oilers sign to reach ice nirvana, Puckstradamus?

yeah im not reading all this. I'm 24/25 predicting Cup champs with my formula the last 25 years. I'll stick w/ that.

[pk500]

yeah im not reading all this. I'm 24/25 predicting Cup champs with my formula the last 25 years. I'll stick w/ that.

So, you're all but admitting you're a blind squirrel who finds nuts. At last, some truth and facts from you.

Enjoy the Final.

[Diablo25]

why yo so mad?

No team has done that since NO TEAM had a talent like McDavid. McDavid is Jordan or Brady where you surround him with the right STARS, you win 4/5/6 rings and have a dynasty.

I'm not mad. I just don't suffer fools gladly.

And if you had one f*cking clue, you would know the NHL has a HARD salary cap, unlike the NFL or NBA. The limit is the limit; there are no Bird rights, no franchise tag, no creative accounting, no luxury tax. Teams CANNOT exceed the cap without significant penalties, not taxes.

You'd also know NBA player contracts are limited to four years, with a fifth year possible if a player stays with his current team or a sixth year RARELY for designated veteran contracts. NHL max deals are seven years for players signed from other teams, eight if they stay. NFL contracts can be longer in terms but almost never fully guaranteed, so teams can shed contracts of aging, fading stars much more easily. NHL and NBA contracts are fully guaranteed.

That makes it VERY difficult to build NHL dynasties because the contract terms are longer and guaranteed, and superstars don't move as much as they do in the NBA. Hockey players actually honor contracts, unlike NBA players.

The Oilers locked up the "good, not great" Draisaitl -- your analysis of one of the five best players in the world is perhaps the funniest thing I've read on this forum in years -- for an eight-year deal before this season and will do the same with McDavid sometime next season, the last year of his current deal.

Given the hard cap, two max deals on the same roster (with Bouchard also looking at commanding $10 million per in his next deal), what superstars must the Oilers sign to reach ice nirvana, Puckstradamus?

yeah im not reading all this. I'm 24/25 predicting Cup champs with my formula the last 25 years. I'll stick w/ that.

No you are not.

[Sudz]

Didn't think the Oilers were going to pull that one out.

Glad we get hockey tomorrow, but then Monday and having to wait until Thursday is annoying.

[pk500]

Glad to see the merely “good” Draisaitl score two goals last night, including the OT winner.

Oh, and you know who leads the Oilers in goal scoring this playoffs, just as he did the entire NHL during the regular season?

Yeah, the merely good player, Leon Draisaitl.

One down, three to go.

[10spro]

From the entertainment point of view, that was a thriller to watch. Didn’t expect the home team would pull it off after trailing by 2 as FLO has shown that under coach PM, rarely if at all when leading after 40 minutes, they go back with an L in the column. I did mention before that goaltending would be the key in the series. And S. Skinner outduelled S.B. I mean the key saves he made in the second period when FLO was going for the kill was tremendous to give his team a chance in the third.

Both teams were structurally sound, playing to their strengths, and while it was #97 setting up Draisaitl for the winner, it was the beautiful quick back pass from C. Perry that deserves full credit. At 40 and to think quick and fast with that pressure that FLO has on the PK, it was magic to watch.

[Sudz]

it was the beautiful quick back pass from C. Perry that deserves full credit. At 40 and to think quick and fast with that pressure that FLO has on the PK, it was magic to watch.

Totally, that was a great pass and he did it before FL could get back into position.

[pk500]

As Ray Ferraro says about Perry, nobody does more after moving less. The guy's hockey sense is off the charts. He just knows where to be when he doesn't have the puck and what to do when he gets it, with no excess dangling or movement.

His career -- longevity, points, awards, Cup -- is just remarkable considering he's not the greatest skater.

[Lancer]

Glad to see the merely “good” Draisaitl score two goals last night, including the OT winner.

Oh, and you know who leads the Oilers in goal scoring this playoffs, just as he did the entire NHL during the regular season?

Yeah, the merely good player, Leon Draisaitl.

One down, three to go.

we agree, he's good, but he's not a star.

but it was a must needed game 1 win for the oilers.

[10spro]

Glad to see the merely “good” Draisaitl score two goals last night, including the OT winner.

Oh, and you know who leads the Oilers in goal scoring this playoffs, just as he did the entire NHL during the regular season?

Yeah, the merely good player, Leon Draisaitl.

One down, three to go.

we agree, he's good, but he's not a star.

but it was a must needed game 1 win for the oilers.

Some so called NHL fans don’t understand the difference between reality and sarcasm.

[Lancer]

Glad to see the merely “good” Draisaitl score two goals last night, including the OT winner.

Oh, and you know who leads the Oilers in goal scoring this playoffs, just as he did the entire NHL during the regular season?

Yeah, the merely good player, Leon Draisaitl.

One down, three to go.

we agree, he's good, but he's not a star.

but it was a must needed game 1 win for the oilers.

Some so called NHL fans don’t understand the difference between reality and sarcasm.

like i told you i'm not a nhl fan. im a nhl playoffs fan. i don't watch the regular season. i just watch the playoffs. and it's easy to determine based off the first round who'll end up and win the finals. my accurate predictions 24/25 years is better than vegas odds.

[pk500]

Glad to see the merely “good” Draisaitl score two goals last night, including the OT winner.

Oh, and you know who leads the Oilers in goal scoring this playoffs, just as he did the entire NHL during the regular season?

Yeah, the merely good player, Leon Draisaitl.

One down, three to go.

we agree, he's good, but he's not a star.

but it was a must needed game 1 win for the oilers.

Uh, we most definitely do not agree. But we do agree you need to read the below definition a bit more often:

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sar·casm
/ˈsärˌkazəm/
noun
the use of irony to mock or convey contempt.

[pk500]

like i told you i'm not a nhl fan. im a nhl playoffs fan. i don't watch the regular season. i just watch the playoffs. and it's easy to determine based off the first round who'll end up and win the finals. my accurate predictions 24/25 years is better than vegas odds.

Nobody believes you, dude. Let's see the slips to prove it.

Surely a man with your Puckstradamus skills has monetized this amazing prescience for the last quarter-century, right?

[pk500]

A few more stats about the "only good" Leon Draisaitl that your "formula" didn't spit out (courtesy of Jason Gregor):

— Became the fifth player in NHL history to score three OT goals in one playoff year.
— Set the Oilers record for most OT goals in one year with three. Esa Tikkanen had two in 1991.
— Scored his 50th career playoff goal Wednesday night. Joins Nathan MacKinnon as the only active players to score 50 goals in their first 100 playoff games. Draisaitl did it in his 91st game, MacKinnon needed 89 games. For a quick comparison to the other active players, Steven Stamkos has 50 in 128 games. Nikita Kucherov has scored 53 in 153 games, Patrick Kane has 53 in 143 games, MacKinnon has 55 in 95 games, Brad Marchand has 61 in 175 games, Corey Perry has 61 in 232 games, Evgeni Malkin has 67 in 177 games, Sidney Crosby has 71 in 130 games, and Alex Ovechkin has 77 in 161 games. Draisaitl and MacKinnon could pass all of them.
— Draisaitl entered this season averaging 1.46 points/game in the playoffs, fourth best among players to play 35+ games. This year he’s at 1.59 with 27 points in 17 games and he’s up his career average to 1.48.
— Draisaitl is three points shy of reaching 30 points this year. Only Mark Messier (three times) and Wayne Gretzky (six) have scored 30+ points in three playoff seasons. Connor McDavid needs two points to join them, as well.
— Draisaitl’s OT winner was his 21st playoff powerplay goal. Gretzky owns the Oilers record with 23, while Anderson and Jari Kurri have 22. Draisaitl will own that record soon, as well.

Yep, he's just good. Very average. (CUE MASSIVE EYE ROLL FOR ANYONE IN THIS THREAD IMMUNE TO SARCASM).

[Lancer]

like i told you i'm not a nhl fan. im a nhl playoffs fan. i don't watch the regular season. i just watch the playoffs. and it's easy to determine based off the first round who'll end up and win the finals. my accurate predictions 24/25 years is better than vegas odds.

Nobody believes you, dude. Let's see the slips to prove it.

Surely a man with your Puckstradamus skills has monetized this amazing prescience for the last quarter-century, right?

if i made it up i would have said something like 25/25 or 30/30.

jealousy is not a good trait

[Lancer]

great 2 finals games so far.

old man marchand with the double ot winner!

perry and marchand doing it at 40 and 37. incredible players.

im still sticking with my prediction from round 1 that the oilers will win it. 18 years in a row win streak on the line.

[dbdynsty25]

Superiorman? Is that you?

[pk500]

if i made it up i would have said something like 25/25 or 30/30.

jealousy is not a good trait

I'd only be jealous if you monetized this incredible skill by betting it. Which, of course, you didn't. So, yeah ... it's hard to be jealous of something pulled from thin air.

[Lancer]

if i made it up i would have said something like 25/25 or 30/30.

jealousy is not a good trait

I'd only be jealous if you monetized this incredible skill by betting it. Which, of course, you didn't. So, yeah ... it's hard to be jealous of something pulled from thin air.

I am a Mormon Sir! I will not defile myself by such a degenerate act of grift and immorality! gambling is the devil's recreation!

[Lancer]

Just tuned in and it's 5-1 FLA. What happened?