Rodster wrote:
No but no one needs to when you see a guys head turn violently to the left and his body follows the direction his neck is going. Meanwhile the side judge is looking at both players.
Well i have and trust me it's not easy. The play your referring to if I recall in real time no one said anything. They ran another play and then someone in the replay booth found it slowed down and instant controversy. Which is my point in real time it could of happened so fast no one saw it and frankly you have no idea what the side judge is looking at. Yeah he might be looking at the players but you can't determine if at his angle he saw it. Which is kind of the point, no official is letting a blatant face mask go if they saw it.
Now if you want to talk PI and say some players get away with more than I'm fine with that but this type of play is not selectively being passed on because of who committed the foul.
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Rodster wrote:
No but no one needs to when you see a guys head turn violently to the left and his body follows the direction his neck is going. Meanwhile the side judge is looking at both players.
Well i have and trust me it's not easy. The play your referring to if I recall in real time no one said anything. They ran another play and then someone in the replay booth found it slowed down and instant controversy. Which is my point in real time it could of happened so fast no one saw it and frankly you have no idea what the side judge is looking at. Yeah he might be looking at the players but you can't determine if at his angle he saw it. Which is kind of the point, no official is letting a blatant face mask go if they saw it.
Now if you want to talk PI and say some players get away with more than I'm fine with that but this type of play is not selectively being passed on because of who committed the foul.
Take into account who you're arguing with here. The doom and gloom guy, only talks when there is sh*t to be talked. Dolphins win 4 in a row and he hasn't spoken a peep about them. But the minute Tannehill throws a bad interception to lose a game or something, he comes out of the woodwork like a roach. Not sure he knows how to be positive about anything. And this coming from DB, the king of pessimism himself. Really bad when I notice it.
edit: I stand corrected, he said one nice thing in this thread about Miami. LOL. My point is still the same however.
Diablo25 wrote:Again, disagree. And that "s***" hasn't always happened.
Sorry, I agree with DB. Superstars always have gotten calls in the NBA, NFL and NHL.
No problem Paul...you've been wrong before . And I know superstars get calls and that has in some way shape or form gone on for a long time BUT, my point is that it has changed a bit. To "cover their ass" NBA officials wait on calls more than ever before they pull the trigger. It shouldn't be part of the game. Call the f***in foul as it happens...whether its Bron Bron or Joe Bag of Doughnuts who gets 3 minutes a game. I have eyes and watch the games just like everyone else. We aren't far apart on our views here...but they do differ and thats fine.
pk500 wrote:This is the first season in probably 20 years in which my interest in college football is rivaling that of the NFL. The playoff has made college football meaningful and interesting again for me.
Had we asked you after week 5...your tune would have been different.
Sure, my interest ebbs and flows with the tides of the Bills. But I'm still an avid NFL fan even though my team last made the playoffs in the 20th century.
So eff you.
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Danimal wrote:Well i have and trust me it's not easy. The play your referring to if I recall in real time no one said anything. They ran another play and then someone in the replay booth found it slowed down and instant controversy. Which is my point in real time it could of happened so fast no one saw it and frankly you have no idea what the side judge is looking at. Yeah he might be looking at the players but you can't determine if at his angle he saw it. Which is kind of the point, no official is letting a blatant face mask go if they saw it.
I'm not saying officiating is easy but that's their job. The NFL "supposedly" is on the lookout for abnormal player head movement whether they take a shot to the head, a horse-collar tackle or facemask. What happened to Cole Beasley should have been a 15 yard penalty and even both Joe Buck and Troy Aikman were expecting a 15 yd penalty. And it doesn't help that an official was in the area watching the play.
dbdynsty25 wrote:
Take into account who you're arguing with here. The doom and gloom guy, only talks when there is sh*t to be talked. Dolphins win 4 in a row and he hasn't spoken a peep about them. But the minute Tannehill throws a bad interception to lose a game or something, he comes out of the woodwork like a roach. Not sure he knows how to be positive about anything. And this coming from DB, the king of pessimism himself. Really bad when I notice it.
edit: I stand corrected, he said one nice thing in this thread about Miami. LOL. My point is still the same however.
Dude, i've been following the Dolphins since 1978 when I lived in Miami and what the Dolphins have put on the field the last 4-6 years has been a shitty product at best so yeah i'm venting like XXXIV after drinking four bottles of Ouzo. This year started off no different than the last 4 years. Now the Dolphins are playing the way you and I want them to play. Even Tannehill is moving around in the pocket and throwing a nice deep ball.
If I say something nice and the team tailspins then you'll blame me for jinxing them.
Rodster wrote:
I'm not saying officiating is easy but that's their job. The NFL "supposedly" is on the lookout for abnormal player head movement whether they take a shot to the head, a horse-collar tackle or facemask. What happened to Cole Beasley should have been a 15 yard penalty and even both Joe Buck and Troy Aikman were expecting a 15 yd penalty. And it doesn't help that an official was in the area watching the play.
Buck and Aikman didn't say anything until after the next play was over when the booth got them a slow mo instant replay. As far as the rest believe what you want, no ref is letting go a blatant face mask if they saw it which clearly the didn't. Your point has wavered from conspiracy theory to ref's doing their job. Apparently you're unable to grasp the simple concept officials miss calls for no other reason than they are human.
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What I don't understand is how the officiating is getting even worse with the addition to replays. I swear that half of the replays show a clear answer but the refs come back with a different call! How does that facemask on Beasley get uncalled but 10 other ticky tack penalties in the game do.
I understand there needs to be rules put in place, but sometimes you just have to let these men play football. There could be a penalty called on every single play. I get that the league has put an emphasis on offense because it seems to draw excitement (which I can disagree with), but when you are advancing the ball due to penalties, it just makes the game more unwatchable. I still don't understand what is a catch and what isn't a catch. Too many games this year, what looks like a good catch is called incomplete and what looks like non-possession of the ball is called a catch. Then you have instances where the refs completely blow things like that Buffalo/Seattle game.
The Thursday night football games need to go! Period! If the NFL insists on having them, they need to go back to doing them in the middle of the season and incorporate teams that were on a Bye week to play those Thursday night games. I know they set the games up where the teams are regionally pretty close to each other, but it is still very unfair to the team who has to travel. Especially if you play a late game on Sunday. You simply cannot be fully ready to play. And look at last Thursday's game. The Browns had to travel to Baltimore. Baltimore had the luxury of coming off a bye week to. I'm shocked that Cleveland was leading 7-6 at halftime, but you could tell they were spent in the 2nd have and the results showed it. The 2nd half of that game was unwatchable. Monday night games are almost as bad. There have been very few good MNF games the last few seasons. Certainly not good enough for me to stay up until midnight to watch.
The NFL has some major evaluating to do. There needs to be something done about penalties, about the pace of the game, and when the games are played. If they don't get addressed soon, my interest will continue to fade.
pk500 wrote:This is the first season in probably 20 years in which my interest in college football is rivaling that of the NFL. The playoff has made college football meaningful and interesting again for me.
Had we asked you after week 5...your tune would have been different.
Sure, my interest ebbs and flows with the tides of the Bills. But I'm still an avid NFL fan even though my team last made the playoffs in the 20th century.
So eff you.
At least your team has BEEN to a Super Bowl......56 years and counting for a Houston team to reach a SB and I feel pretty sure it won't be this year's Texans that break the hex......with the exception of the two Rockets NBA titles, Houston has one of the worst resumes for Pro sports excellence. If the Cavs had not won this past Spring, Cleveland would have that dubious honor.
Like you, my interest in the NFL has been waning greatly this year and most of my focus has been on college football. My team (Texas A&M) was cruising along nicely until they ran into the 'Bama buzz saw and then proceeded to lose to Miss State and Ole Miss consecutively. Win those two games and they would be #2 in the CFP, but they have been exposed badly the last two weeks and look to finish 8-5 this year for the 3rd straight year and I think Kevin Sumlin may be looking for a new address considering the nearly $1 billion they have thrown at that program. Another football season down the shitter....
Nfl is nothing but a racket. I won't comment on all the blown calls, but I just saw something appalling. Philly at Seattle. Philly scores what looks to be a 50+ yard td to take the lead in a close game. They called it back due to illegal formation. One of the wr was lined up half a yard in the wrong spot. It made ZERO difference on the play. Eagles ended up not converting on 3rd and had to punt. Rules are rules, but that is just idiotic. Pass interference is one thing but that call is a joke. Even Seattle rubes would probably agree. Sad, really.
fletcher21 wrote:Dallas vs Seattle in the NFC championship game. You heard it here first
Wow, way to go out on a limb . Doubt that you are the first to proclaim that.
Ha. Seattle new England 2 would be nice, but I'm pulling for da boys
So called experts. After SEA struggled the first couple of games with only a couple of TD's and Wilson was only on one leg, many started to write them off. But the wounded are slowly healing up and with T. Rawls back today, the ground game should be improved after an anemic season so far. They beat NE on MNF last week and everyone is on a bandwagon again.
. And I know superstars get calls and that has in some way shape or form gone on for a long time BUT, my point is that it has changed a bit. To "cover their ass" NBA officials wait on calls more than ever before they pull the trigger. It shouldn't be part of the game. Call the f***in foul as it happens...whether its Bron Bron or Joe Bag of Doughnuts who gets 3 minutes a game. I have eyes and watch the games just like everyone else. We aren't far apart on our views here...but they do differ and thats fine.
