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There is zero chance for any of the TW games being made available for BC.
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DivotMaker wrote:
Danimal wrote:Played another round shot -6, that's going to have to be one hell of a patch to make this a more meaty game. I wonder if this will tank worse than TW14.
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If so, then uninstall the game and go play TGC if you think RM is so easy. I'm seeing the exact opposite.
I'm pretty sure I already said that I'm not a fan of TGC somewhere back in this thread. Saying it is a competent game is not saying I love it. I'm also positive I said that I'm fine with RM difficulty here.

I find it odd that your posting about people being allowed to have different opinions in other threads but you're getting so bent out of shape with mine here. FWIW I'm playing with all those setting, well except Diagonal swings, that one I'm not sure about.

There is not enough meat to this game to keep me playing. I paid $20 for TGC with plays IMO just as well as RM if I want to play a quick round or two of golf. There is nothing for me in RM that is compelling from a single player aspect or multiplayer since they removed country clubs. Not for $50 anyway. I would pay $20-$30 for this and be happy however.

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Fellas,

I owe everyone here an apology. I got wrapped up in RM wanting it to be better than it is and I have come to my senses and understand it IS WHAT IT IS. I like it, but don 't "love it" yet as it has a way to go and the feedback in THIS forum is some of the best and most objective I have come across. Please keep it coming as I am going to try to entice one of the RM Devs to come here and participate to have your voices heard.

Again, apologies for taking things personal and lets keep going forward to see if EA can bring this game up to the quality of experience of TW14 if not surpass it possibly.
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I'm shooting -7 to -10 under with my CAG with those settings and he just got to level 13. Have played only 6 rounds I believe. You must take beads off and most likely no grid at all to get the best challenge.

I can still hit every fairway even with no zoom. Have had an errant one or two but there is no feeling of "do I really want to hit driver here?" Granted I have only played in 5-6 mph winds so far so we will see.

Still enjoying the game for what it is. Wish we had country clubs though. It looks like most here are going ps4...it's going to be lonely around here. Will have to force myself to play the tour daily/weeklies.
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Aristo wrote:There is zero chance for any of the TW games being made available for BC.
I keep hoping that Tiger Woods PGA Tour 10 will be made BC for the XB1, as it is second only to Links 2004 in my favorite previous gens console golf games. I loved the challenge of that game with the Club Tuner adjusted sweetspots in the 16 to 22% (ramping the sweetspot up proportionally from driver to wedges range) and its meterless precision putting interface is still my favorite putting interface of all time.

I'm curious as to why you say threre's zero chance of any of the TW games to be made BC for the XB1; have your read something or are you theorizing? I realize I'm hoping for a lot for a game as old as 2009/10 to be made BC. I'd like to read your thoughts on this though.
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Aristo wrote:There is zero chance for any of the TW games being made available for BC.
I keep hoping that Tiger Woods PGA Tour 10 will be made BC for the XB1, as it is second only to Links 2004 in my favorite previous gens console golf games. I loved the challenge of that game with the Club Tuner adjusted sweetspots in the 16 to 22% (ramping the sweetspot up proportionally from driver to wedges range) and its meterless precision putting interface is still my favorite putting interface of all time.

I'm curious as to why you say threre's zero chance of any of the TW games to be made BC for the XB1; have your read something or are you theorizing? I realize I'm hoping for a lot for a game as old as 2009/10 to be made BC. I'd like to read your thoughts on this though.
I have heard that sports games may not make it due to licensing restrictions. Who knows at this point.
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TheTruth wrote:I'm shooting -7 to -10 under with my CAG with those settings and he just got to level 13. Have played only 6 rounds I believe. You must take beads off and most likely no grid at all to get the best challenge.

I can still hit every fairway even with no zoom. Have had an errant one or two but there is no feeling of "do I really want to hit driver here?" Granted I have only played in 5-6 mph winds so far so we will see.

Still enjoying the game for what it is. Wish we had country clubs though. It looks like most here are going ps4...it's going to be lonely around here. Will have to force myself to play the tour daily/weeklies.
I'll be around on Xbox One if you want to hook up sometime.
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LOL, just played a quick 9 at Sawgrass with Winds 8-12 and greens on fast Custom Tour with grids on and shot +4....... :lol:
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DivotMaker wrote:Fellas,

I owe everyone here an apology. I got wrapped up in RM wanting it to be better than it is and I have come to my senses and understand it IS WHAT IT IS. I like it, but don 't "love it" yet as it has a way to go and the feedback in THIS forum is some of the best and most objective I have come across. Please keep it coming as I am going to try to entice one of the RM Devs to come here and participate to have your voices heard.

Again, apologies for taking things personal and lets keep going forward to see if EA can bring this game up to the quality of experience of TW14 if not surpass it possibly.
Tim, I wanted it to be better than it is myself, and my reaction to it not meeting my lofty expectations is to demean it more than I should. Now that I've fully exhausted my 10 hour trial, I've seen enough to know it has the basis to be tailored into a much better game. I see so many aspects of it that show it's a work in progress. For example, I can't believe threre's not a hole-by-hole, "live" leaderboard for online tournament play... and that's after EA Sports delayed the release of the game for a month to bring online play up to speed. Furthermore, the only multiplayer options the game has are severely lacking compared to what fans of the previous series have come to expect.

If EA Sports is indeed on the continuous upgrade trek, as it *appears* they may be with this, it will eventually get there, IMO. I'm amazed at how much TGC has progressed in its year of existence, but I'm also suprised at how much further it has to go. RMPGAT has to somehow get more "feel" in its swing interface from tee to green, simply by watching the golfer animation and feeling the stick to get me onboard though. I hope they realize that this is an important issue with lots of gamers, including a number from whom I've read reports here at DSP.

I respect you for offering an apology, but there's a driving passion behind what put you in a position to express it, and it's that passion that is the fuel to keep devs and gamers striving for something better. We're all grown-ups here and I think most of us know how to separate give and take from personal feelings, but thanks for the course correction along the way 8) It would be cool if we could get one of the devs to step in here and have a meaningful exchange of ideas with though!
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TheTruth wrote:I'm shooting -7 to -10 under with my CAG with those settings and he just got to level 13. Have played only 6 rounds I believe. You must take beads off and most likely no grid at all to get the best challenge.
I shot a 68 at The Wetlands under your conditions, but I had beads on. I tried 9 holes with the beads off and found the static grid to be of little to no value. Are you getting pretty good reads off of beadless grids?
Still enjoying the game for what it is. Wish we had country clubs though. It looks like most here are going ps4...it's going to be lonely around here. Will have to force myself to play the tour daily/weeklies.
I'd like to know if Country Clubs are eventually coming. I'd pay for it as a DLC, as I think it would fit the definition of what would qualify as DLC to a "T". A lot of people flat don't want CC's, so why should they have to pay for it if they're not going to use it. I'm not sure which way I'll go with RMPGAT when I eventually buy it (I know it's coming though), but if I had to guess right now, I'd say it would be PS4.

I've already read a report from a guy on OS who somehow bought an early copy of the PS4 disk version, after playing the XB1 Early Access version. He says it's clear that it's sharper (higher resolution) but he can't cite any figures. Who knows, two or three updates into the life cycle and we could be looking at a different game and less separation between the two platforms. I'm curious to see how the XB1 version evolves once DirectX 12 is incorporated into the XB1 SDK.
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DivotMaker wrote:I have heard that sports games may not make it due to licensing restrictions. Who knows at this point.
Ugh... I hadn't thought of that aspect of it. I can see where that would be a show stopper though.
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DivotMaker wrote:LOL, just played a quick 9 at Sawgrass with Winds 8-12 and greens on fast Custom Tour with grids on and shot +4....... :lol:
Don't feel bad, 10spro and I shot +3 and +4 on the back 9 at Troon Friday night, under the same settings.
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J_Cauthen wrote:I've already read a report from a guy on OS who somehow bought an early copy of the PS4 disk version, after playing the XB1 Early Access version. He says it's clear that it's sharper (higher resolution) but he can't cite any figures. Who knows, two or three updates into the life cycle and we could be looking at a different game and less separation between the two platforms. I'm curious to see how the XB1 version evolves once DirectX 12 is incorporated into the XB1 SDK.
I have it preordered for the X1. But I might just switch over too if there's just a couple of guys playing online here. If you got both consoles, it would be smart to try the PS 4 version as eventually the game will be in the vault if you got EA Access.
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10spro wrote:
J_Cauthen wrote:I've already read a report from a guy on OS who somehow bought an early copy of the PS4 disk version, after playing the XB1 Early Access version. He says it's clear that it's sharper (higher resolution) but he can't cite any figures. Who knows, two or three updates into the life cycle and we could be looking at a different game and less separation between the two platforms. I'm curious to see how the XB1 version evolves once DirectX 12 is incorporated into the XB1 SDK.
I have it preordered for the X1. But I might just switch over too if there's just a couple of guys playing online here. If you got both consoles, it would be smart to try the PS 4 version as eventually the game will be in the vault if you got EA Access.
If enough of you here go PS4, I'll go buy one and finally be set console wise......
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DivotMaker wrote:Fellas,

I owe everyone here an apology. I got wrapped up in RM wanting it to be better than it is and I have come to my senses and understand it IS WHAT IT IS. I like it, but don 't "love it" yet as it has a way to go and the feedback in THIS forum is some of the best and most objective I have come across. Please keep it coming as I am going to try to entice one of the RM Devs to come here and participate to have your voices heard.

Again, apologies for taking things personal and lets keep going forward to see if EA can bring this game up to the quality of experience of TW14 if not surpass it possibly.
Tim, I wanted it to be better than it is myself, and my reaction to it not meeting my lofty expectations is to demean it more than I should. Now that I've fully exhausted my 10 hour trial, I've seen enough to know it has the basis to be tailored into a much better game. I see so many aspects of it that show it's a work in progress. For example, I can't believe threre's not a hole-by-hole, "live" leaderboard for online tournament play... and that's after EA Sports delayed the release of the game for a month to bring online play up to speed. Furthermore, the only multiplayer options the game has are severely lacking compared to what fans of the previous series have come to expect.

If EA Sports is indeed on the continuous upgrade trek, as it *appears* they may be with this, it will eventually get there, IMO. I'm amazed at how much TGC has progressed in its year of existence, but I'm also suprised at how much further it has to go. RMPGAT has to somehow get more "feel" in its swing interface from tee to green, simply by watching the golfer animation and feeling the stick to get me onboard though. I hope they realize that this is an important issue with lots of gamers, including a number from whom I've read reports here at DSP.

I respect you for offering an apology, but there's a driving passion behind what put you in a position to express it, and it's that passion that is the fuel to keep devs and gamers striving for something better. We're all grown-ups here and I think most of us know how to separate give and take from personal feelings, but thanks for the course correction along the way 8) It would be cool if we could get one of the devs to step in here and have a meaningful exchange of ideas with though!
Appreciate the kind feedback John. All I want from EA is a Golf game that is fun for a wide number of users and has some longevity and replayabiliy.
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J_Cauthen wrote:I shot a 68 at The Wetlands under your conditions, but I had beads on. I tried 9 holes with the beads off and found the static grid to be of little to no value. Are you getting pretty good reads off of beadless grids?
The one round I played with no beads was my very first and I shot -2 with Rory. The grid was helpful in determining the break but that was pretty much it. Was hard to tell how fast the break would be. And that was under avg. conditions on the green. Resulted in lots of birdie misses especially from distance.
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TheTruth wrote:The one round I played with no beads was my very first and I shot -2 with Rory. The grid was helpful in determining the break but that was pretty much it. Was hard to tell how fast the break would be. And that was under avg. conditions on the green. Resulted in lots of birdie misses especially from distance.
I had a 12 foot birdie putt at Troon while using beadless grids Friday night. It appeared to be a straight putt according to the grid, but it actually broke 10 to 12 inches to the left. I would hope that over time, I'd be able to glean something from the grid, as I think the beaded grids give a bit too much information. I don't even recall now (and my trial is over) but when using beadless grids, there's no color gradients in them to help show elevation, right?
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Here's the reply I got from the guy who already has the PS4 version, and has played the XB1 EA version.

"The ps4 version sure seems less grainy to me it still has a certain amount of graininess in the textures of the grass but I think it's intentional and doesn't look bad.there was no question to me that things look clearer. The golfers have a better sharpness and the colors seem crisper.

As far as swing improvements it's exactly the same and there's even a little lag when putting sometimes or in cut scenes which I also experienced on the x1. I would say I find the general swing technique better on the ps4 but it's most likely due to the fact I prefer the ds4 controller."


I'd say it's only going to look different based on his reply. If there is a difference in the way it feels, it's probably going to come down to your preference in controllers. I prefer the XB1'a stock controller to the DS4 for golf games, but that's why I bought a Titan One, so I could play PS4 golf games with my XB1 and XBox 360 Silver Edition controllers.

I'm still hoping for some earth shattering patch on launch day, but we'll see. I'm going to sit this one out until I read something that clues me in that it's got more of the essentials in which I'm interested.
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Hoping for an "earth shattering" patch at launch is most likely only setting yourself up for disappointment.
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18 holes of Play Now with Sunday pins and 8-12 MPH winds and fast greens at Troon....E par with my CAG. Not sure how some of you are averaging 6 and more under par.....
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J_Cauthen wrote:
DivotMaker wrote:I have heard that sports games may not make it due to licensing restrictions. Who knows at this point.
Ugh... I hadn't thought of that aspect of it. I can see where that would be a show stopper though.
Yeah, sports games are problematic because of the licensing issues. But I had read that Tiger's and EA's split was not amicable at all. EA pulled TW content, games and courses, from the store, and are not selling anything with his name on it.

So that means there is zero financial reason to make those games available, as all they can do is cost them RM sales. From EA's perspective, I can't see a single logical reason to allow them.
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Wilk5280 wrote:Hoping for an "earth shattering" patch at launch is most likely only setting yourself up for disappointment.
True, as everything to date, other than PGA Championship Golf '99, and it's real time, full screen reverse angle landing camera patch was on its launch day16 years ago, has demonstrated.
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As a side hobby i like to always compare multi platform games on xbo and ps4. this one I lost all interest because the game is so bare. I'm sure PS4 may look slightly better as most EA games this gen do (except NHL). But since the modes and options are so sparse I won't even bother.

I rehooked up my 360 and played some older favorites last night. Went out today and found some old classics I sold in the Walmart bargin bin for $10 - $20. Bought Ultra Street Fighter IV for $15 at Walmart and the whole family had a blast. I may seriously consider going back and picking up TW 14 and just be happy w/ that as my golf game. These older TW last gen golf games are selling for ridiculous prices at amazon. But good old Walmart has them at bargain basement prices.
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DivotMaker wrote:18 holes of Play Now with Sunday pins and 8-12 MPH winds and fast greens at Troon....E par with my CAG. Not sure how some of you are averaging 6 and more under par.....
The better question is how are you still playing since you said you EA Access time ran out days ago. :D

Also did this game get released early I see people playing it on the PS4 already
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