NBA Season 2014-15

[Diablo25]

Sixers are so young and obviously going nowhere this year but they are fun to watch! Nice win last night coming from 23 down to beat the Heat. They only had 8 players available too. Youngest team in the history of the league. KJ McDaniels is the real fn deal! He's a smarter version of Iggy and a 2nd rounder! He's a top 5 rookie right now. Two sweet put backs last night and he's a STUD on D. My prediction of being the worst team in the league may not happen if they continue to improve. I can live with that. With Embiid and Saric coming in the near future plus two 1st rounders in the coming draft and cap $$$ - who knows what could happen in the next 3-5 years

http://www.csnphilly.com/basketball-phi ... back-games

Hope you didn't get too attached to KJ.

Loved his D. Oh well. In Hinkie we trust.

[Rodster]

What a season for the Heat. The team has been injury plagued from the start. Bosh is out with blood clots in his lungs and now Dragic is non committal if he'll stay in Miami. Rumors are he's interesting in LA. Didn't Riles get some commitment from him or his agent before giving away two 1st round picks? smh

Hopefully Bazz Napier can learn from him while he's here. He looked great against the Knicks but it's the Knicks so that doesn't really count.

[Rodster]

Looks like D Rose is going to need surgery AGAIN on his right knee. A string of injury bad luck and he's only 26.

[pk500]

Looks like D Rose is going to need surgery AGAIN on his right knee. A string of injury bad luck and he's only 26.

DRose sadly will become the Gale Sayers or Billy Sims of the NBA. A brilliant comet across the horizon extinguished too soon by knee injuries.

[Danimal]

i don't really follow the NBA but it's impossible living in Chicago to not listen to the Drose talk today and in the past. I will say this, I question Rose's rehab in both previous instances. Typically when you're out a full year, never mind most of two years you come back stronger in the physical sense. Even with knees, strengthening the body would be at least a partial benefit to him. As a casual observer I saw no change in his body. He was tentative to come back and while I don't claim to know the inner workings of his rehab, i never once heard how he has put on more muscle or looked leaner etc.

It seems clear his inner circle is full of people giving him poor advice but even now they must know that he can ride out the last 2 years of a lucrative contract but he will likely never see one again. Of course it is hard to expect intelligence from someone who allegedly had someone take his SAT's for him.

[dbdynsty25]

As a casual observer I saw no change in his body. He was tentative to come back and while I don't claim to know the inner workings of his rehab, i never once heard how he has put on more muscle or looked leaner etc.

This is so wrong.

I've had multiple knee surgeries and multiple rehabs. Dislocated kneecap, torn lateral meniscus, torn medial meniscus and an ACL reconstruction. When you are rehabbing, you're strengthening the muscles around the knee to help support the new ligament (or repaired cartelidge)...you're not bulking up or getting in better shape. Yes, an NBA player should be in top shape anyway, but you're not going to see someone spend the rest of the time on their body when the knee injury is the primary focus. The misconception about knee injuries is that you should come back stronger and that's a bunch of sh*t. Once you go under the knife, you're never the same. Yes, working out other parts of your body helps with aligning your spine and hips and all that stuff, but you're not bulking up, your just trying to make the joints/ligaments work more efficiently.

I've had three of my four surgeries done by the Arizona Diamondbacks team orthopedic surgeon, and I rehabbed at the clinics that the pros use (me and Donovan McNabb are boys). So I've had quality care...you're just never the same. The confidence in your knee, even if you think it's 100% just never will come back. Hell, I watch myself on video when I play with my son, or play some dunkball on small hoops and I can see myself favoring the hell out of my "bad" knee even though technically might bad leg is stronger than my good leg. I can lift more weight, yet, after I'm done playing hoops, I've gotta ice and care for my knee because it still hurts like hell when it's 100% sound from a health standpoint.

There's a reason guys are never as good when they come back and the chance for re-injury skyrockets. DRose as NBA fans know him, is done. He may end up having a career like Jason Kidd who was athletic as hell coming out of Cal...but then knee injuries and the dreaded microfracture grounded him. If DRose can reinvent himself and no rely soly on being an athletic freak, then maybe he's on to something, but playing the way he continues to play, it's not going to end well.

[Rodster]

Supposedly both right knee menisus injuries are the same that D Wade had and he had them removed. D Wade said you recover faster but you pay later on.

[dbdynsty25]

Supposedly both right knee menisus injuries are the same that D Wade had and he had them removed. D Wade said you recover faster but you pay later on.

That's a fact.

My first meniscus was a removal and my second was a repair. Good lord did the second one hurt like a son of a b*tch. It hurt way more than the post surgery from ACL reconstruction. I had to do a repair because it was close to the blood supply so I couldn't have it removed. I was walking normally in two days after the removal...the repair took a few weeks. Hopefully the regeneration of meniscus gets a little more advanced in the next few years and we can all have it replaced!

[Rodster]

Supposedly both right knee menisus injuries are the same that D Wade had and he had them removed. D Wade said you recover faster but you pay later on.

That's a fact.

My first meniscus was a removal and my second was a repair. Good lord did the second one hurt like a son of a b*tch. It hurt way more than the post surgery from ACL reconstruction. I had to do a repair because it was close to the blood supply so I couldn't have it removed. I was walking normally in two days after the removal...the repair took a few weeks. Hopefully the regeneration of meniscus gets a little more advanced in the next few years and we can all have it replaced!

Holy sh*t Yatil Green. What are you doing blowing out all your body parts?

[Inuyasha]

dbdynasty is the Sam Bowie of DSP.

[Danimal]

This is so wrong.

I've had multiple knee surgeries and multiple rehabs.

This is mildly amusing considering my background, major in college and whom I interned with post graduation but I can see how you misunderstood what i meant. First of all if during rehab you're only working on the muscles of the injured knee and not the other leg and core well then you're off to a bad start. I wasn't implying that he should have put 2 inches on his biceps and been able to run a marathon. Again not being privey to his rehab routine and just looking at him, Rose doesn't strike me as a guy who worked hard at rehab from a strengthening stand point.

I look at Rose and I'm making an assumption of course. I don't know what he did and didn't do. You're right on the knee never being the same and re-inury is always a risk but how you rehab makes a difference and again I'm totally speculating based on the people surrounding him but I'm not so sure he is making the best choices.

He better make the right ones now, because he is running out of shots.

[dbdynsty25]

This is mildly amusing considering my background, major in college and whom I interned with post graduation but I can see how you misunderstood what i meant.

Well, do tell? Wife is a Sports Med major w/ a masters in Kinesiology. I've got all kinds of people in my ear about my injuries.

[wco81]

Rose has made a lot of money.

Maybe he would be at peace if he never got another contract after the current one.

Coincidentally Larry Sanders talks about why he walked away without getting all the guaranteed money he would have been due if he continued to play.

[Inuyasha]

Rose is young. he can come back. but bulls weren't going nowhere anyway. They still are/were one superstar short from making a legitimate run at the finals.

[Danimal]

This is mildly amusing considering my background, major in college and whom I interned with post graduation but I can see how you misunderstood what i meant.

Well, do tell? Wife is a Sports Med major w/ a masters in Kinesiology. I've got all kinds of people in my ear about my injuries.

I'll PM you if you're really interested. Short version is when I graduate college 26 years ago (holy s*** ) I had a dual major and one was sports medicine. I also was not implying you were wrong, my first message was just quick and I can see how it was not what I meant to say. Personally I'm not prepared for another year of listening endlessly about Roses injury. My only point was his frame doesn't strike me as someone who likes to do any training other than playing basketball.

Maybe your wife will disagree but it has always been my experience that the more a person is used to a regular routine of physical training the more prepared they are for rehab and the harder they work. Again in my experience there are many athletes who don't like to work out and usually rehab is horrible for them.

[Inuyasha]

This is mildly amusing considering my background, major in college and whom I interned with post graduation but I can see how you misunderstood what i meant.

Well, do tell? Wife is a Sports Med major w/ a masters in Kinesiology. I've got all kinds of people in my ear about my injuries.

I'll PM you if you're really interested. Short version is when I graduate college 26 years ago (holy s*** ) I had a dual major and one was sports medicine. I also was not implying you were wrong, my first message was just quick and I can see how it was not what I meant to say. Personally I'm not prepared for another year of listening endlessly about Roses injury. My only point was his frame doesn't strike me as someone who likes to do any training other than playing basketball.

Maybe your wife will disagree but it has always been my experience that the more a person is used to a regular routine of physical training the more prepared they are for rehab and the harder they work. Again in my experience there are many athletes who don't like to work out and usually rehab is horrible for them.

2 wannbe Quincy's here. Who cares. Drop it. Leave it to the experts. I guess the only way to revive the NBA thread is a flame war.

[Danimal]

2 wannbe Quincy's here. Who cares. Drop it. Leave it to the experts. I guess the only way to revive the NBA thread is a flame war.

EDIT: Not breaking my resolution.

Hey DB are we in a flame war?

[dbdynsty25]

2 wannbe Quincy's here. Who cares. Drop it. Leave it to the experts. I guess the only way to revive the NBA thread is a flame war.

EDIT: Not breaking my resolution.

Hey DB are we in a flame war?

Yes, f*ck you!

WTF?

[Danimal]

Yes, f*ck you!

WTF?

[pk500]

2 wannbe Quincy's here. Who cares. Drop it. Leave it to the experts. I guess the only way to revive the NBA thread is a flame war.

Huh? Revive? Really? Compared to what other pro sports thread besides the NFL and soccer?

[dbdynsty25]

I really cannot express how fun it was to watch Westbrook and Bledsoe go at it for 4 quarters and an overtime last night in Phoenix. Two absolutely supreme athletes going head to head all game was absolutely incredible. You could tell they were on another level athletically than the rest of the guy son the floor and it stood out immediately.

Westbrook's game is a little more polished as he doesn't make all of the dumb turnovers that Bledsoe does, but if I remember about 3-4 years back, he was doing the same thing, so there's even more hope for Bledsoe being the superstar the Suns are paying him to be. I'd argue that his 28/13/9 was much more impressive than Westbrook's 39/14/11 because it was muuuuuch more efficient. He shot 11 for 16 instead of 12 for 38. That's pretty much the difference in the game right there.

Either way, that was a hell of a game to watch last night and gives me hope for the Suns going forward after the disastrous experiment this season with the three PGs.

Nice little scoring recap, minus overtime from the two freaks.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPqkwcrdDWg

[Rodster]

Beasley is back for a third time which just shows how injury plagued the Heat have been all year. The guy they (Bill/Hank/Henry Walker) signed to a 10 day contract hits two 3's within 22 seconds to tie the game with the Magic. The difference maker so far has been Dragic. The Heat are one of the slowest teams moving the ball up court and Dragic has helped a lot.

I hope he decides to sign with the Heat. I would love to see Dragic along with a healthy McRoberts, Deng and Bosh next year along with Whiteside.

[Brando70]

So the Bulls lose Rose and Jimmy Butler for a month or more. Obviously Rose getting hurt isn't surprising, but Butler's injury is so disappointing. Crazy how much the injuries have piled up for them this season.

[Rodster]

So the Bulls lose Rose and Jimmy Butler for a month or more. Obviously Rose getting hurt isn't surprising, but Butler's injury is so disappointing. Crazy how much the injuries have piled up for them this season.

That's a lot better than missing the season for Rose. The Heat OTOH have been napalmed with injuries. Now Drajic is out with back spasms and Birdman as well. It's like a player turnstile this season with the Heat.

[pk500]

So the Bulls lose Rose and Jimmy Butler for a month or more. Obviously Rose getting hurt isn't surprising, but Butler's injury is so disappointing. Crazy how much the injuries have piled up for them this season.

That's a lot better than missing the season for Rose. The Heat OTOH have been napalmed with injuries. Now Drajic is out with back spasms and Birdman as well. It's like a player turnstile this season with the Heat.

So much for that extended All-Star break leading to healthier, fresher rosters in the spring. The back-to-backs and three-in-fours introduced into the schedule this season to create a longer break could be backfiring.