Inuyasha wrote:Saul excellent tonight as well. Can't wait for Ep3!
Yep! Thought it was better than the first episode.
The only thing that takes some of the tension away is that you know Saul is going to make it out of dangerous situations. That said, they're putting together an ensemble of great characters and story lines once again.
Jimmydeicide wrote:I just hope every Saul episode is not 20 mins of him weazeling his way out of situations like the tuco one. It's too much for me.
What do you think it's going to be, him solving crimes with his talking dog? He's only got one skill and we know that whatever peril he might confront, he ends up well enough. I think if you don't love seeing his weapons-grade bullshit, you might want to look away.
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The critics of "Better Call Saul" don't realize one thing: This show is not a dark drama, like "Breaking Bad." It's a dark comedy.
Saul Goodman was the only comedic character on "Breaking Bad." (Well, Badger had his moments.) So what are Bob Odenkirk and Vince Gilligan supposed to do, turn the character of Saul into a Walter White clone to satisfy those who want this show to be "Breaking Bad II?"
That would be stupid. And Odenkirk and Gilligan are far from imbeciles.
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He can't rig up explosives to defeat homicidal criminals.
I guess him arguing for the skateboarders is suppose to show he's still a decent guy. Will he have a similar trajectory to WW, that is while trying to thread the needle between dangerous characters like Tuco who won't give a second thought about killing, he gets in more and more over his head like Walter did.
He may not directly kill but by joining a big time criminal operation, he's culpable for deaths.
wco81 wrote:That's all he can do, is talk his way out.
He can't rig up explosives to defeat homicidal criminals.
I guess him arguing for the skateboarders is suppose to show he's still a decent guy. Will he have a similar trajectory to WW, that is while trying to thread the needle between dangerous characters like Tuco who won't give a second thought about killing, he gets in more and more over his head like Walter did.
He may not directly kill but by joining a big time criminal operation, he's culpable for deaths.
And that will extract a toll. But we do know where he ends up in six years, in terms of how he deals with shady stuff. His super power is negotiating and convincing very dangerous people that working with him is better than killing him or whoever he is trying to protect. We know that he grows "empire" to the point in which he is the guy that can find a lot of dirty people, including killers. We know that he will often help people by working behind the scenes against them.
There is just a lot of his life left to be sorted out, and it will take a lot of questionable dealing on Saul's part to get there. And that's if the show never gets to post BB.
Jimmydeicide wrote:I just hope every Saul episode is not 20 mins of him weazeling his way out of situations like the tuco one. It's too much for me.
What do you think it's going to be, him solving crimes with his talking dog? He's only got one skill and we know that whatever peril he might confront, he ends up well enough. I think if you don't love seeing his weapons-grade bullshit, you might want to look away.
Yes i will be looking away if its like that every episode.
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Inuyasha wrote:probably because it's long and he may not have time to watch it.
BB was good, sometimes great, but very dark and many people don't like dark shows.
Saul is different, so far. It's fresh even though it comes from the BB world.
That's ridiculous. If you don't think Saul is dark, you really aren't paying attention. Or maybe you found it funny when Tuco stomped the twins legs, which was negotiated down from tearing them limb to limb. Or when Saul was defending teens that f***ed a dead mans head. Or when he is confronted by his brother's obvious insanity, and his goal is to get him to cash out so that he can get at the the money his brother earned. Or even when Chuck asks him not to use his own name as a lawyer. Or when he is shaken down by Nacho to let him rob the double of their million dollars.
And this is just the start of his relationship with evil enough people that he felt the need to create a "Get the Hell out of Dodge anonymously" plan. I have no idea how someone would call this anything but dark.
Inuyasha wrote:probably because it's long and he may not have time to watch it.
BB was good, sometimes great, but very dark and many people don't like dark shows.
Saul is different, so far. It's fresh even though it comes from the BB world.
That's ridiculous. If you don't think Saul is dark, you really aren't paying attention. Or maybe you found it funny when Tuco stomped the twins legs, which was negotiated down from tearing them limb to limb. Or when Saul was defending teens that f***ed a dead mans head. Or when he is confronted by his brother's obvious insanity, and his goal is to get him to cash out so that he can get at the the money his brother earned. Or even when Chuck asks him not to use his own name as a lawyer. Or when he is shaken down by Nacho to let him rob the double of their million dollars.
And this is just the start of his relationship with evil enough people that he felt the need to create a "Get the Hell out of Dodge anonymously" plan. I have no idea how someone would call this anything but dark.
I did not think those parts were dark at all. I found them somewhat humorous. Sort of like this segment :
Now that "Breaking Bad" is done and "Mad Men" is on hiatus for a bit longer, "The Americans" is the best show on TV. Fantastic. Plus I never tire of gazing lustily at Keri Russell.
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Just finished up the latest episode of Better Call Saul. It's Mike Ehrmantraut's origin story, and really just one of the best hours of TV I've seen in a long time.
The original idea for the beginning of “ABQ,” the explosive second season finale of Breaking Bad, was for Saul Goodman to come to Jesse’s apartment and clean up the scene after Jane’s death. But Bob Odenkirk wasn’t available, too busy shooting something else in Los Angeles (or at least that’s the story Vince Gilligan tells). So the writing staff created Mike the Cleaner, and in going through the audition tapes, found Jonathan Banks, who Gilligan and Thomas Schnauz knew from Wiseguy back in the 80’s. Fate has been kind to Vince Gilligan’s vision of Albuquerque; not only did the Writer’s Strike probably help save Jesse Pinkman survive through the first season, but a small bit of revision to that finale script created one of the series’ finest characters, Mike Ehrmantraut.
When AMC announced that Banks would join the cast of Better Call Saul, everyone assumed that we’d learn more about Mike Ehrmantraut’s past, simply because it’s the nature of prequels. But I don’t think anyone was expecting “Five-O,” an entire episode solely devoted to the origin story of a character that had to be created due to Bob Odenkirk’s unavailability. Many characters had tour de force episodes over the course of Breaking Bad, from Walt and Jesse (too many to name) to Skyler, Hank, Marie, even Gus Fring. But Gilligan and his staff held off on fully pulling back the curtain on Mike Ehrmantraut until now, and it’s Jonathan Banks’ just reward for swooping in as the Cleaner years ago. It’s only March, but I’ll say it now because everyone’s thinking it: Banks is the frontrunner for Best Supporting Actor at the Emmys. (It sort of helps that Aaron Paul won’t be eligible, but let’s ignore that for now.)
RobVarak wrote:Sweet Moses! The Americans is off to a tremendous start this season.
Unfortunately no one is watching one of the best shows on TV so this might be its last season.
Renewed for S4.
I think the show would get interesting if and when Perestroika and Glasnost and eventually the fall of the Soviet Bloc were depicted and how it affected the characters.
But Brezhnev died earlier in S3 so it would be several seasons before they reach these historic events.
Sudz wrote:What do you think it's going to be, him solving crimes with his talking dog?
Well I'm still watching and its awesome. [/quote]
Agree. This show is achieving a nice, slow burn. I don't think it has exploded into brilliance yet, but it's more than compelling enough to keep watching.
I'm SO stoked about the renewal of "The Americans." Plus I'm pumped about the return of "Louie" and the final season of "Mad Men" next week!
"You know why I love boxers? I love them because they face fear. And they face it alone." - Nick Charles
"First on the throttle, last on the brakes." - @MotoGP Twitter signature
He's only got one skill and we know that whatever peril he might confront, he ends up well enough. I think if you don't love seeing his weapons-grade bullshit, you might want to look away.
