Tiger Woods 14 thread, part II

[10spro]

FWIW, I just finished the last two rounds at Mission Hills and realized that my CG was playing with the crappy EA clubs where I was averaging double bogey golf and couldn't land a damn fairway if my life depend it on it yesterday.

Changed clubs and played better, at least I was seeing the nice smooth fairway at least 55% of the time and my score was a bit better.

As I mentioned earlier, the sim difficulty doesn't bother me at all, in fact I love the challenge but just how EA went about it that bugs most players along the poor camera selection or lack thereof.

[Badgun]

can I get a club invite?

vibrantorange (xbox)

I would like one as well. Cowboys59 Xbox.

[J_Cauthen]

can I get a club invite?

vibrantorange (xbox)

I would like one as well. Cowboys59 Xbox.

I show you on the member list Badgun. Did you use the password to get in? I'm just trying to figure out what's working with this and what isn't. Welcome, BTW!

[Leebo33]

I'm very disappointed in the feedback so far here and elsewhere so I'm holding off on a purchase. I needed a reason to jump and leave behind my over $100 investment into TW13 and it obviously isn't going to happen yet.

The cost of games, exclusive licenses, and the sorry state a lot of them are released is really pushing into a retro period. I find myself playing more Strat, College Hoops 2K8, and board/card games than anything else these days. I kept the disks for Tiger Woods 2005 for PC and tried to fire it up but I can't seem to get it to start on Windows 7.

[Gangrel]

Reading on OS today while bored at work, I saw multiple accounts of folks with scoring errors. It seems that whatever your score is when YOU finish your round, is the "state of the world".

i.e, one guy was +4 and the cut was +4, but when the rest of the round simmed out, the cut rose to +5. However, he still missed the cut.

Similarly, if you are in the lead when you finish your round, you win, irregardless if folks simmed behind you pass you or not.

If this is true, no buy for me until it's fixed.

edit: just found this on OS too:

"Also happened to the same guy in a really ridiculous way where the CAG finished his round early at -14 and immediately went into a playoff with Bradley even though Bradley was still on the course, the CAG ended up winning and then after that it went right back to simming the rest of the 4th round where Bradley was given the win instead at -16 and it was as if the playoff never happened. What happened was as soon as the CAG finished his round at -14, Bradley was also -14 at the time so the game ended it prematurely again thinking it was a playoff when it wasn't. Then the playoff result was erased as soon as the 4th round finished simming again right after the playoff."

[Diablo25]

Cool commercial for the game

[DChaps]

Reading on OS today while bored at work, I saw multiple accounts of folks with scoring errors. It seems that whatever your score is when YOU finish your round, is the "state of the world".

i.e, one guy was +4 and the cut was +4, but when the rest of the round simmed out, the cut rose to +5. However, he still missed the cut.

Similarly, if you are in the lead when you finish your round, you win, irregardless if folks simmed behind you pass you or not.

If this is true, no buy for me until it's fixed.

edit: just found this on OS too:

"Also happened to the same guy in a really ridiculous way where the CAG finished his round early at -14 and immediately went into a playoff with Bradley even though Bradley was still on the course, the CAG ended up winning and then after that it went right back to simming the rest of the 4th round where Bradley was given the win instead at -16 and it was as if the playoff never happened. What happened was as soon as the CAG finished his round at -14, Bradley was also -14 at the time so the game ended it prematurely again thinking it was a playoff when it wasn't. Then the playoff result was erased as soon as the 4th round finished simming again right after the playoff."

These scoring/playoff bugs can't be for real, can they? I keep thinking I will come to this thread to see some positives that make me want to get the game again and then I read the opposite. I get why Tim isn't posting here any more, but I do wish that he would let us know whether the dev team acknowledges these bugs and if they will be addressed in a patch. Wasn't the implementation of playoffs a new feature? If so, is it really this broken or are we just hearing about the exceptions to the rule? The cut issue sounds like a major problem as well. I am too lazy these days to peruse other forums to find more info.

[J_Cauthen]

It's a pretty ugly mess right now in career mode and Connected Tournaments... scoring, leaderboards, statistics, they're all pretty much meaningless right now. I understand that they already have some fixes in for the Connected Tournaments for the next server update, which I think will be this evening. The Live Tournament history will be wiped out and started over again, which is probably the best thing. I can't make heads or tails out of what is reported anyway.

I've done more than qualify for the web.com tour in career mode, as I'm still unsure whether I'm going to buy this game. There's no doubt now in my mind that if they can't patch a stationary, swing camera for putting into the game, it's not going to be something I'd want to play long term, even if they do get all the scoring, stats, cuts, and leaderboard issues worked out.
I think we'll have a much better idea of how they'll be resolving the scoring issues by tomorrow night. I'll be out of business after 1:00 AM tomorrow morning, when my Early Release period expires. I've got a Gamefly copy that will get here Wednesday, but I'll only have two days with the Online Pass for it once it gets here. That will at least give me a chance to see how they've progressed with the Connected Tournament and frozen CAGs in online multiplayer play.

[TheTruth]

Well, after playing the ER more and then reading about all the bugs, I cancelled my preorder as well. Just don't have that feeling to play one more round like there was last year. I have plenty of other games to keep my interest right now, and may look at picking up Tiger down the road. But really will probably just wait until the next consoles come round.

[dbdynsty25]

Well, after playing the ER more and then reading about all the bugs, I cancelled my preorder as well. Just don't have that feeling to play one more round like there was last year. I have plenty of other games to keep my interest right now, and may look at picking up Tiger down the road. But really will probably just wait until the next consoles come round.

I really wonder if a demo/early release has ever hurt a game more than this years Tiger? What are you, like the sixth or seventh guy on here (including me) who cancelled their pre-order based on the demo/ER? Crazy. Never seen it happen on this site, so I assume it's more widespread than that even.

[MERACE]

I've asked several times in the past on the EA TW forums for a select number of the TW community members to beta test the crap out of the game a couple months prior to release but they said it was not feasible (too costly).

Well, I feel that it may become too costly (lost sales) not to.


-MERACE

[DivotMaker]

I've asked several times in the past on the EA TW forums for a select number of the TW community members to beta test the crap out of the game a couple months prior to release but they said it was not feasible (too costly).

Well, I feel that it may become too costly (lost sales) not to.


-MERACE

This might actually push them over the edge with all the issues already reported. What seems strange to me is I am seeing few if any of the issues being reported. I did have a freeze in the first CM event as an Amateur, then I had the HUD come up missing twice in the next round. I then went (just for grins) to clear the cache on my 360 and I have not seen a single issue since. I am not sure if there is a difference between the ST and retail versions, but the vast majority of the feedback is from ST users. I reached out to several of the TW CD guys who also have the retail version and other than the online freeze at the end of H2H rounds and the shot tracer issue (both of which have been addressed this afternoon with a re-deploy to the server) we aren't seeing all these issues, including the CM scoring glitch. Frankly, this is some strange s*** going on. Sean Wilson (TW14 Exec. Producer) has been on the forums all weekend and today as well as Justin Patel and they are working through each and every issue being reported. It is a damn shame that they are having to do this because someone in QA flat FAILED in a huge way on this game when you take all of the feedback into consideration. While the game may seem "broken" to some, if not all of you, I am enjoying a relatively error-free experience. But you don't really want to hear that....

I am sorry I have not been posting here, but I just thought that with all of the past personal issues, it was time for me to sit in the background and observe. After this post I will do the same, but I will promise to offer any updates on the patches for this game and what impact they may have if some of you may still be interested in the game. I respect all of your opinions, especially those who have cancelled pre-orders. If I were in your shoes, that is what I would be doing. Hope to update you all in the near future with some GOOD news about the game.

Take Care and thanks for listening,

Tim

[J_Cauthen]

This might actually push them over the edge with all the issues already reported. What seems strange to me is I am seeing few if any of the issues being reported.

Are you ever consulting the replay for putts? I know just about every time I do it, which is quite often, at least 75% of the time I'll get an stat information box pop up in my line and it won't disappear until I go the pause menu and then resume the game. If you aren't seeing that happen in your game, then the Historic Edition is definitely different than the ER version we're playing. That is easily the most repeatable error I'm getting with the game.

Today should answer a lot of questions about how difficult the fixes are going to be for some of the problems. I'm curious to see how many of these are server side issues that they'll be able handle en masse.

Thanks for the update!

[DChaps]

I don't have the demo or the Early Release installed anymore so I can't check this out for myself, but I saw something interesting in this commercial. At about 1:43 into the video, it shows the gang playing TW14 in front of their big screen TV using the Kinect and the guy is lined up vertically with the TV as he is making his shot (as opposed to horizontally). In the follow through it appears that he is horizontal to the TV. So does TW14 allow you to line up vertically to TV now if you are using the Kinect? I initially bought TW13 for the Kinect implementation but quickly abandoned it, mainly due to it just not being any fun and an "exercise" in frustration. Has anyone tried out the Kinect integration in TW14 and is it any better than it was in TW13?

Cool commercial for the game

[J_Cauthen]

I don't have the demo or the Early Release installed anymore so I can't check this out for myself, but I saw something interesting in this commercial. At about 1:43 into the video, it shows the gang playing TW14 in front of their big screen TV using the Kinect and the guy is lined up vertically with the TV as he is making his shot (as opposed to horizontally).

I think they added vertical orientation with the patch last year when using the Kinect, but it was only available in Amateur and Pro difficulties using the vertical lineup. It had something to with with the system not being able to capture enough data four Tour Pro and Tournament difficulties. I don't know if all difficulty modes work with the Kinect in Tiger 14 though. There's just not much talk about it in the official forum.

[10spro]

Is there a way to delete other created golfers that you're not using anymore?

[J_Cauthen]

Is there a way to delete other created golfers that you're not using anymore?

Hmmm... not sure. The Season Ticket version has timed out on me, so I can't check it. I should be getting my Gamefly rental of the game tomorrow and I'll see if I can check it there.

On another note, I went back and played the demo version of Tiger 14 this morning for comparison of the putting camera in Follow cam. I know it annoyed me that the putting camera actually zoomed out and elevated a bit as the putt was struck, but at least it stayed behind the golfer where I savor the roll of the pure more intimately and gain much more break data in real time. I find it far more preferable to what we've got now. I would think if they were able to make such a drastic change to the putting camera in Follow cam, from the demo to the release version, they *should* be able to change it in a patch... especially to one that is totally stationary, or zooms in just enough to take the golfer's body out of the way.

[10spro]

I guess I am in the minority but I'll be getting the Historic version. The poor selection of camera angles is not quite a game breaker for me as I am really enjoying the challenge of playing the Sim mode. Gone are the unrealistic scores (at least in this mode) and I do like to see the bogey golf in me to be played out in my flat TV. Playing out of the rough is tough and there's just that element of strategy and scrambling to get the ball in play that just immerses you in this particular mode.

Now, what EA must do immediately is to come up with a patch correcting the many errors seen online with stats, H2H and if they can at least maintain a steady zoom angle behind the player when putting, I'll be a satisfied camper. Zoom in on the ball, don't stray away from it. I want to see my line, not a TV presentation camera which is done poorly. This is a video game, you want to learn from your mistakes, what not, if I want a TV like camera while a player putts, I can always watch the real Pros over the weekend for that.

Based on many guys pulling out their pre-orders I doubt we'll see the same amount of people playing this version but boy do I love the CC and Live tournaments.

Some reviews are coming out.

http://kotaku.com/tiger-woods-pga-tour- ... -458806696

http://underthecode.com/2013/03/26/oblo ... a-tour-14/

[dbdynsty25]

I have a feeling I'll be picking it up shortly...I think I'm going to fire up the PC Online version again first to see if that can get me my fill first though. I just want a golf game. LOL.

[10spro]

I have a feeling I'll be picking it up shortly...I think I'm going to fire up the PC Online version again first to see if that can get me my fill first though. I just want a golf game. LOL.

When you do, just join us at the CC. Fun stuff.

[dbdynsty25]

When you do, just join us at the CC. Fun stuff.

Oh I know the CC is cool...I played in a few last year until I had my boy and ran out of time, lol. He's older now and on a good schedule so it's a bit easier to play. We'll see. Maybe today. LOL...but then again, I need to get into Bioshock tonight too.

[Wilk5280]

Well the Mrs just called me and told me not to go out and buy the game today because she just picked up the historic version while out on her lunch break. I didn't have the heart to tell her that I wasnt planning on getting it this year. I still may not open it up... Will depend on self control and other feedback between now and the time I get home from work.

[Danimal]

Took the kids away for a long weekend and we just got back. Was thinking of running out and getting the game but I see my report of scoring issues was not just me as it is being reported all over the place. I really didn't see any kind of useful post, over at OS all I see are posts from users that EA will fix it so don't worry... that is not entirely comforting.

I just want to know can I play a SP offline career without it screwing up cuts and stats?

[Sudz]

Well the Mrs just called me and told me not to go out and buy the game today because she just picked up the historic version while out on her lunch break. I didn't have the heart to tell her that I wasnt planning on getting it this year. I still may not open it up... Will depend on self control and other feedback between now and the time I get home from work.

You know you'll open it. Just embrace it now.

[dbdynsty25]

My willpower is that of a 12 year old girl and Bieber paraphenala...picked up the historic edition just by walking by the display at best buy. I suppose I should just stop leaving the house all together to prevent that from happening. Smh.