Battlefield 3

[Wilk5280]

I guess maybe you just gotta get used to it, or yeah it's just not your thing. I mean if everyone died every 5 seconds I guess nobody would play, right. It is possible to have a lot of success in these modes (and in CoD). But yeah, running around all willy-nilly in the open will tend to lead to a lot of deaths.

But I get it... I wonder how the hell you do it in racing games.

[Macca00]

I had the gayest score of all last night -- led my team on points in Conquest for one round despite having just one kill. I'm a flag-hopping POS.

Blasphemy! That's the main reason I love Battlefield - you don't have to be a killing machine to lead your team in points and help your side win. Not just capturing points but also doing support actions like healing, re-supplying, spotting and so on.

[pk500]

I had the gayest score of all last night -- led my team on points in Conquest for one round despite having just one kill. I'm a flag-hopping POS.

Blasphemy! That's the main reason I love Battlefield - you don't have to be a killing machine to lead your team in points and help your side win. Not just capturing points but also doing support actions like healing, re-supplying, spotting and so on.

So says the guy who treats his DSP buddies in Battlefield like grain grinding through a thresher ...

[webdanzer]

I just picked it up. Anything a noob should know? Will I be gimped until I level up some?

[Naples39]

I just picked it up. Anything a noob should know? Will I be gimped until I level up some?

Yes, though if you got the premium edition it includes some kind of online "head-start" to unlock some stuff automatically.

[webdanzer]

Assault class seems fairly underwhelming with all the vehicles in this game. What's the upside, the healing?

At the moment not sure why one would take this over one of the other classes that can take on armor as well as infantry...

Popped on for a little while last night. Decent fun. Need to learn how to fly the choppers.

[Wilk5280]

Web,
We were playing on the Armored Kill maps last night which do include the largest maps in the game. Assault Class probably isn't the best choice. I went with Engineer for the shoulder fired alt. weapon and the claymores (or repair tool comes in handy too).

If you enjoy Assault Class don't fret, there are a lot of maps and modes in which that class is king as far as racking up the support points.

On a side note; as much as I love this game I'm not sure how much I'll be playing it. I've spent many a day of my life with this game on the PS3 with some buddies of mine and have like a 16th Star Colonal or some nonsense like that.

[webdanzer]

Web,
We were playing on the Armored Kill maps last night which do include the largest maps in the game. Assault Class probably isn't the best choice. I went with Engineer for the shoulder fired alt. weapon and the claymores (or repair tool comes in handy too).

If you enjoy Assault Class don't fret, there are a lot of maps and modes in which that class is king as far as racking up the support points.

Thanks Boom! I did end up switching to Engineer after a while for the anti-armor weapon, as I was getting rocked at some checkpoints vs armor. Held my own on infantry one-on-ones, though!

Do assault unlocks really make them more powerful than the other classes in infantry firefights later on? It seemed that -with starting weapons, at least- the engineer's rifle wasn't much worse than the assault's, so why not take the engineer and get the other benefits as well? Again, this is all early stuff, so maybe I'll see more of an assault advantage later on.

[Naples39]

I was hoping to catch you guys last night, but I guess I was too early, then fell asleep on the couch.

As for assault class, I find it's exactly like you would expect---it's for killing people and leading the attack. I generally find the assault rifles to be the most flexible in killing enemies. The engineer's SMG is good in close quarters, but really is weak in medium/long-range. Also, maybe you haven't unlocked it yet, but the key team ability for an assault is the ability to revive dead teammates with the de-fib paddles. You're fairly useless against vehicles though.

[Wilk5280]

The Famas is a bad-mamma-jamma for the Assault Class. It's a bit rough at first with the iron sights, but once you unlock a reflex or something of that nature it's a mighty fine piece of gear.

Also if you want to level up a bit faster to unlock more weapons and class perks Conquest Domination is the fastest way to earn XP that I've found. You'll also get a lot more kills to unlock stuff for your weapons.

[Jimmydeicide]

Assault class used to be much better before they nerfed the m320. You can put that in your med kit slot (i think it is off the top of my head) and that could take out vehicles even a tank if you had the time or it was already limping but any infantry vehicles was no problem and great fun, plus blowing snipers out of crows nests and other sneaky spots they hide.
You still get to heal with defibs so it does widen your scope of things even now, its just really nerfed now.
Im kinda burnt out on Assault class so ive been concentrating on taking out aircraft lately and its a great change of pace its almost like a different game.
Had a great time With Teal and Fifa the other night we teamed up and got quite a few .

[Naples39]

The Famas is a bad-mamma-jamma for the Assault Class. It's a bit rough at first with the iron sights, but once you unlock a reflex or something of that nature it's a mighty fine piece of gear.

Also if you want to level up a bit faster to unlock more weapons and class perks Conquest Domination is the fastest way to earn XP that I've found. You'll also get a lot more kills to unlock stuff for your weapons.

Didn't they nerf the FAMAS in one of the patches? I remember it being badass way back when, but I tried it for a few minutes last night and it had crazy kick.

[RobVarak]

The Famas is a bad-mamma-jamma for the Assault Class. It's a bit rough at first with the iron sights, but once you unlock a reflex or something of that nature it's a mighty fine piece of gear.

Also if you want to level up a bit faster to unlock more weapons and class perks Conquest Domination is the fastest way to earn XP that I've found. You'll also get a lot more kills to unlock stuff for your weapons.

Didn't they nerf the FAMAS in one of the patches? I remember it being badass way back when, but I tried it for a few minutes last night and it had crazy kick.

All the weapons have been tweaked a lot.

Take a look at the data from the link I put up a few pages back. I don't think there's ever been a shooter that had less of a spread between weapons. They've balanced it to the point where there's really no consensus anymore on what works best overall. Modifications make all the difference now.

[Macca00]

Assault class seems fairly underwhelming with all the vehicles in this game. What's the upside, the healing?

At the moment not sure why one would take this over one of the other classes that can take on armor as well as infantry...

I cut my teeth on the Assault Class when I first started playing BF3 - you can level up really, really quickly using assault. Healing/Med Kits get you 20-30 points easy each time someone uses them, once you unlock the defibrillator you get the same amount of points for reviving a teammate as you do killing someone - this is also clutch in Conquest as you get that ticket back for your team so you're really important to victory. The Assault class guns are also all high capacity weapons that make it easy to get a lot of kills (though, like Rob said, there's no one weapon that's clutch).

I'd say the hardest class for a beginner is Sniper/Recon - it's actually the only class I've yet to max out/prestige/whatever they call it.

[Naples39]

The Famas is a bad-mamma-jamma for the Assault Class. It's a bit rough at first with the iron sights, but once you unlock a reflex or something of that nature it's a mighty fine piece of gear.

Also if you want to level up a bit faster to unlock more weapons and class perks Conquest Domination is the fastest way to earn XP that I've found. You'll also get a lot more kills to unlock stuff for your weapons.

Didn't they nerf the FAMAS in one of the patches? I remember it being badass way back when, but I tried it for a few minutes last night and it had crazy kick.

All the weapons have been tweaked a lot.

Take a look at the data from the link I put up a few pages back. I don't think there's ever been a shooter that had less of a spread between weapons. They've balanced it to the point where there's really no consensus anymore on what works best overall. Modifications make all the difference now.

There are so many weapons and attachments in this game, and they've massively tweaked them multiple times, I feel like I have no idea what works anymore. And if they're going to "balance" them so much to make them equal, then having them all is just needless clutter. Pretty frustrating IMO...

[Brando70]

Got my copy Saturday. Only had time for one quick match this weekend, but boy have I missed this game. I'm downloading the 8,000 gigs of expansion packs today and can't wait to play tonight.

Web, I would recommend going Engineer or Support to start. Engineer gives you explosives to help balance out your lack of access to better guns. Support gives you an easy way to rack up points by just spamming ammo boxes, plus you get C4, which is arguably the best way to take out a tank and also defend a flag. Also useful on close maps like metro where you can clear corners with a brick of plastique.

[webdanzer]

Got my copy Saturday. Only had time for one quick match this weekend, but boy have I missed this game. I'm downloading the 8,000 gigs of expansion packs today and can't wait to play tonight.

Web, I would recommend going Engineer or Support to start. Engineer gives you explosives to help balance out your lack of access to better guns. Support gives you an easy way to rack up points by just spamming ammo boxes, plus you get C4, which is arguably the best way to take out a tank and also defend a flag. Also useful on close maps like metro where you can clear corners with a brick of plastique.

Thanks. I bit the bullet last night (Okay, took LOTS of bullets, literally) and stuck with assault playing some with Teal and Rob. Died a lot, but FINALLY unlocked my first red dot scope as soon as the other guys left for the night. It was like a different game after that!

I don't think I'm doing myself any favors constantly switching between this and BLOPSII, though. Minor control confusion, and say what you want about COD, it's just so SMOOTH compared to most other online shooters. My eyes have to adjust some when I come from that to this.

Enjoying this a lot, though!

[webdanzer]

Yes, though if you got the premium edition it includes some kind of online "head-start" to unlock some stuff automatically.

Does anyone know how to access this? I entered the code and got the premium maps and such unlocked, but I don't know where to find this one...

[dbdynsty25]

Yes, though if you got the premium edition it includes some kind of online "head-start" to unlock some stuff automatically.

Does anyone know how to access this? I entered the code and got the premium maps and such unlocked, but I don't know where to find this one...

You have to go to the "store" from the main title screen from what I remember.

[RobVarak]

And if they're going to "balance" them so much to make them equal, then having them all is just needless clutter. Pretty frustrating IMO...

I would have thought so as well, but in practice the guns really do "feel" different when I'm using them. Maybe not significantly more or less effective, but definitely different.

It's certainly a relatively realistic approach. I mean there are enormous differences in the experience of firing a real FAMAS, an M16 and an AK-47, but none of them is "uber" or more inherently deadly than any of the others.

The bigger issue for me is the lack of spec slots. Now with the huge AK maps and the entirely different game of CQ mixed in I waste a ton of time respeccing my soldier and the weapons for the different modes. Seems like they should have set up 3-4 extra slots with the DC just for convenience sake.

[Brando70]

Awesome to jump back into this with Rob last night, even if I was rusty as hell and felt like a n00b. Hands-down my favorite multiplayer FPS of all time.

[Teal]

It's funny, as much as I've gotten a kick out of the BF3 revival, and have had fun with the new modes...

...I'd much rather play Warfighter. In fact, Warfighter is my preferred go-to even with ALL the games I've amassed over the last couple of months.

I don't really give a damn what the plethora of review sites have said, the game just rocks. Combat Mission, while pared down in size and scope from the original, is a fantastic mode. As is Hotspot. Hell, even the crazy mode, Home Run, is fantastic, because yes, it's short and SEEMS to be fast paced, you are one and done. You die, that's it. You get to watch. You are either grabbing a flag, or defending from the same. But the fact that you cannot respawn makes the mode infinitely more tactical. You can win by getting the flag, or by attrition.

If BF3 had the fantastic, essential-from-now-on-in-FPS's cover, peek and lean system, and a mode like Combat Mission, it'd be SO much better. As it is, it's a glaring omission when I've been playing Warfighter. MoH MP is actually more tactical than BF3. I have zero problems finding matches and full rooms with randoms, so it's not dying, either. Just wish the reviews hadn't been so damned (IMO unfairly) negative. The overwhelming majority in the MoH Battlenet forums feel the same way. It's really a great, great game, in every respect.

That said, no worries, because I'm not going to abandon BF3 at all. Just opining.

[Macca00]

Aftermath is out today for the 360.

[FifaInspected]

Fellas.. Having been working out of town the last few days I'll be returning tomorrow wearing my new "shoot me Macca one more time" t-shirt.

[Diablo25]

Aftermath is out today for the 360.

Forgot about it!...downloading now.