Tiger Woods 13 PGA TOUR and CE Info

[10spro]

I'm at 75 power and my drives with no wind are usually 300-310 yards.

Wow - I'm at 93 power and no wind flat terrain I hit about 290-295. And that's with the 10% power shafts or whatever it's called.

I also have my dude at 93 for power and hit the drives around 286, more or less depending on the wind. How do you get all that power with only 75?

[J_Cauthen]

John, congrats on your low score along Ortho. Was the daily set up with no grid on and no caddie assistance? Looking forward to some action this weekend.

Well, Tim has put us both in his wake now... I believe he posted an 11 under round! Yes, the Daily is at Scottsdale and there's no grid and the caddie is "OFF". We'll try another one of these Saturday or Sunday with Hard pin settings (these were Medium).

[orthostud23]

FWIW, I am perfectly fine with the Live weather conditions. I don't pick a particular time to play the game just whenever I can squeeze an hour or two. I am still playing with my CAG and if the consent is to narrow down the tries to just one, I am fine with that too. I don't think it would change much my current status in any shape or form. Still enjoying the dailies and weeklies and just want to thank the organizers for setting up the tournaments.

John, congrats on your low score along Ortho. Was the daily set up with no grid on and no caddie assistance? Looking forward to some action this weekend.

Yes. There were no grids and no caddie. Love those settings!! As I have said before playing with no green grids really keeps scores down IMO. I had a 12 foot putt last night that for the life of me was straight in bt low in behold it had some late break in it and I missed the putt. Things like that might bother some folks but just like IRL when you are over a putt you can not see the break and miss it.

On the whole CAG discussion. My guy has 84 power, 83 accuracy and 70's for everything else. I am not putting any more points into him but that is my choice. I have no issues with anyones CAG being 100's across the board as long as those individuals are having fun because that is the point of the OCC is to have FUN!!

[J_Cauthen]

Didn't we decide a while back that it was okay to use any of the Pros if that was your desire? I really don't have a problem with it. I know I like the way I've got my golfer built and wouldn't change him for any of the Pros at our disposal. Besides, I feel strangely connected to my alter ego on the screen; it does help me feel more immersed in the game by a long shot... sorry, didn't mean to go Dr. Phil here

[webdanzer]

I think I would feel more connected to my CAG if the gameface worked better.

Has anyone tried it recently? Is it any better than it was in the beginning?

[J_Cauthen]

I think I would feel more connected to my CAG if the gameface worked better.

Has anyone tried it recently? Is it any better than it was in the beginning?

I tried it after the patch and it was slightly better. What I did was go back in and make modifications to my face *after* the post patch Gameface was created. Family and friends that see me playing the game are shocked at how much like me my player looks. It's just amazing to me that the Gameface feature has actually regressed over the years!?

[Danimal]

Because I don't feel like quoting multiple posts I am going to make one long reply to a few things and be done with it. I set this up to be fun, I bought a trophy, I (with Vader much appreciated help) update all the stats. John puts in the daily's, I put in the weeklys. I've also been called an ass and other names. Sorry if I sound pissy but I also didn't start this last debate on the weather that led to this.

1. We played one daily with equal pros and guess what the scores were closer. Of course it wasn't a good test because certain people couldn't play (or didn't want to) so there is no way to know for sure. But with one small sample size it made the scores closer.

2. I'm fine with playing with Cag's, pro's any weather conditions you want. The only thing I draw the line on is no green help at all. Sorry there is no way to read the green with no aids. It's a lot easier when your putts are inside 10 feet which most of the good guys constantly have. If you have a 20+ footer it's a guess. You might hit down and it says flat lie but the ball breaks 5 feet left at the hole. If someone wants to explain to me how it is possible to read this I am all ears.

3. I don't care if I win. I don't care if guys are better. I do care about realistic numbers, sorry that's just my personality. In our Madden league we have gotten on guys scoring 70 points etc. So when I see a -17 for a round (and I am not pointing the finger at...I forgot who shot it) and a -40 plus score for the tournament it bugs me. Not because someone shot it because it's just plain stupid.

4. I get the impression people think I am bitching about losing. I'm not I am just getting annoyed with people chirping in and everyone has a condition. Honestly if the game let me enforce stuff this wouldn't be a discussion I would set things and you would play end of story.

If anyone really cares to go back and read about 30 pages of this thread you'll see what I mean and why this thread is currently where it is. As i said at the top I didn't start this I just got feed up with the whole tone of things.

5. I've been able to hit 275 with the driver almost since the first week. I have that season ticket driver with shafts that bump up power. Also 95% of my swings are over swing fast. As they say drive for show because my putting stinks and it's more due to the games response then me. Well that's not true I just can't get use to it and hit a soft putt. When I pull back on my stick it's almost like the putting animation jumps from not moving to 6 inches back.

Until I figure this out and I am convinced I won't since I have tried every camera angle and thing i can think of I will also be below average. I'm putting for birdie almost every hole but when you still 3 and 4 putt holes it doesn't matter.

6. I am not reducing the tries. I honestly don't think people are cheating I was simply making the point that there is no way to ensure fair play and enforce things the way this game is set up. Which is why I added the match play tournament at the end of the year.

I think I caught everything thrown my way. I'll leave it at this I am going to keep running this and I'll just set up the weekly and keep my mouth shut. If you have a complaint, I don't want to hear it. No one is pointing a gun at your head to play. If you're not having fun then don't play or take a week or two off.

[orthostud23]

Because I don't feel like quoting multiple posts I am going to make one long reply to a few things and be done with it. I set this up to be fun, I bought a trophy, I (with Vader much appreciated help) update all the stats. John puts in the daily's, I put in the weeklys. I've also been called an ass and other names. Sorry if I sound pissy but I also didn't start this last debate on the weather that led to this.

1. We played one daily with equal pros and guess what the scores were closer. Of course it wasn't a good test because certain people couldn't play (or didn't want to) so there is no way to know for sure. But with one small sample size it made the scores closer.

2. I'm fine with playing with Cag's, pro's any weather conditions you want. The only thing I draw the line on is no green help at all. Sorry there is no way to read the green with no aids. It's a lot easier when your putts are inside 10 feet which most of the good guys constantly have. If you have a 20+ footer it's a guess. You might hit down and it says flat lie but the ball breaks 5 feet left at the hole. If someone wants to explain to me how it is possible to read this I am all ears.

3. I don't care if I win. I don't care if guys are better. I do care about realistic numbers, sorry that's just my personality. In our Madden league we have gotten on guys scoring 70 points etc. So when I see a -17 for a round (and I am not pointing the finger at...I forgot who shot it) and a -40 plus score for the tournament it bugs me. Not because someone shot it because it's just plain stupid.

4. I get the impression people think I am bitching about losing. I'm not I am just getting annoyed with people chirping in and everyone has a condition. Honestly if the game let me enforce stuff this wouldn't be a discussion I would set things and you would play end of story.

If anyone really cares to go back and read about 30 pages of this thread you'll see what I mean and why this thread is currently where it is. As i said at the top I didn't start this I just got feed up with the whole tone of things.

5. I've been able to hit 275 with the driver almost since the first week. I have that season ticket driver with shafts that bump up power. Also 95% of my swings are over swing fast. As they say drive for show because my putting stinks and it's more due to the games response then me. Well that's not true I just can't get use to it and hit a soft putt. When I pull back on my stick it's almost like the putting animation jumps from not moving to 6 inches back.

Until I figure this out and I am convinced I won't since I have tried every camera angle and thing i can think of I will also be below average. I'm putting for birdie almost every hole but when you still 3 and 4 putt holes it doesn't matter.

6. I am not reducing the tries. I honestly don't think people are cheating I was simply making the point that there is no way to ensure fair play and enforce things the way this game is set up. Which is why I added the match play tournament at the end of the year.

I think I caught everything thrown my way. I'll leave it at this I am going to keep running this and I'll just set up the weekly and keep my mouth shut. If you have a complaint, I don't want to hear it. No one is pointing a gun at your head to play. If you're not having fun then don't play or take a week or two off.

YOU HAD ME AT HELLO.

[Naples39]

I'm pretty flexible, I just don't want to see people quitting over squabbles.

Maybe an easy thing to do is vary settings on dailies more often (we're already doing that a bit anyway). Perfect parity has never really been sought, nor is really feasible in this game anyway. I think the powers-that-be have done a pretty good job at striking a balance between fairness and variety.

[Danimal]

YOU HAD ME AT HELLO.

Thanks for making me laugh.

[J_Cauthen]

5. I've been able to hit 275 with the driver almost since the first week. I have that season ticket driver with shafts that bump up power. Also 95% of my swings are over swing fast.

Therein lies the answer. I had a feeling a fast tempo would add about 20 yards to a drive, at least my average 'one bar' below perfect tempo drives.

When I pull back on my stick it's almost like the putting animation jumps from not moving to 6 inches back.

The putting animation is one of the weakest aspects of this game. I'm always trying to outguess what my eyes are seeing. I hate it when my golfer waggles and the putter moves 6" without me doing anything... it's hard to tell when he's actually moving in response to my input

[orthostud23]

YOU HAD ME AT HELLO.

Thanks for making me laugh.

No worries!!

As anyone in the OCC done any alt shot matches vs other clubs?? Just curious.

[TheTruth]

YOU HAD ME AT HELLO.

Thanks for making me laugh.

No worries!!

As anyone in the OCC done any alt shot matches vs other clubs?? Just curious.

I would love to do more of this!

[Danimal]

5. I've been able to hit 275 with the driver almost since the first week. I have that season ticket driver with shafts that bump up power. Also 95% of my swings are over swing fast.

Therein lies the answer. I had a feeling a fast tempo would add about 20 yards to a drive, at least my average 'one bar' below perfect tempo drives.

I can't hit a perfect / perfect and it's just easier to jam it and play that shot all the time. Well except chips of course. It also really helps on iron shots with spin if you get that number above 60.

[J_Cauthen]

As anyone in the OCC done any alt shot matches vs other clubs?? Just curious.

I haven't yet, but I bet the guys I've played with from Champions Gate CC would be up for it. There are still three of them that want to do the matchplay round robin with three guys from our club, if anyone is interested in that. I know HOGZ knows HadesGateKeeper and he might also have played with Berg, who's now dusted me in two of the last three matches I played against him. Lemme holler at 'em and see what suits them for times and we'll see if we can't work it out.

Would you also be interested in playing in a 9-hole, matchplay round robin with three of them?

[Wilk5280]

Turn off multiple tries. Same guys at the top with the same scores... guaranteed.

Make us use the same pro, same guys at the top with the same scores... guaranteed.

Wake up call fellas... some people are better than others at the damn game.

All very true!

Now, for real I am bowing out.

There's really not much more that could be said about this IMO. I don't consider myself an elite player, although I'd say I've gone from being a average player in Tiger 11 and 12, to a better than average player in Tiger 13. My scores tend to oscillate more wildly than those whom I consider elite players.

BTW, I noticed how similar our attribute distribution we are. The big difference is between spin and recovery. I rarely see a shot back-up on dry, fast or tournament speed greens, even with a 60 degree wedge, with my spin setting of 58. I've gotten comfortable playing that way though.
Do you typically back up wedges on fast and tournament greens under dry conditions with 70?

Back them up, no. I can hold them fairly well though if I hit lower on the ball and have the ball further up in my stance.

[Wilk5280]

Hey guys, I'd just like to apologize real quick for some of my comments and behavior earlier this morning. That's not me and I don't really have an excuse, but it was uncalled for.

[Wilk5280]

Holy wind in the daily at Whistling Straits!! I somehow managed a 65 while hitting 57% of the fairways ad just 66% of the greens in regulation.

I was -3 through the first 3 holes and -6 through 8. Came back to reality the rest of the way, except sinking some very long putts to save par. Fun round, I really enjoyed it [/Tebow]

[DivotMaker]

Holy wind in the daily at Whistling Straits!! I somehow managed a 65 while hitting 57% of the fairways ad just 66% of the greens in regulation.

I was -3 through the first 3 holes and -6 through 8. Came back to reality the rest of the way, except sinking some very long putts to save par. Fun round, I really enjoyed it [/Tebow]

Great round Wilk....you have given us something to shoot at!

[J_Cauthen]

Holy wind in the daily at Whistling Straits!! I somehow managed a 65 while hitting 57% of the fairways ad just 66% of the greens in regulation.

I wanted to read some feedback on this setup. The winds are set to "Breezy" with gusts enabled. I saw winds as high as 17 MPH in my round. They were steadily in the teens though.

I saw that 65 and thought, "no way I can touch that!" under these conditions. I had it to 4 under through 8, and then bogeyed the 9th after missing a 3-footer for par. I got back to 4-under after 15 and then had an eagle on 16, by virtue of a 31 foot eagle putt. A 15 footer for par was required on 17.

Then came the highlight of my Tiger 13 career. I knew I needed a birdied to tie you on 18. The wind was quartering right to left, into my face at 13 MPH. I aimed my tee shot to the right edge of the fairway. I must have had a slight pull because the ball went about 20 yards further left than I'd predicted. I was in the second cut of rough in one of the ugliest lies I'd ever seen in the rough, 230 yards from the hole!

A five iron was placed in my hands with a default aim to the fairway, on the other side of the hazard, about 80 yards short of the hole. Knowing I needed a birdie to tie, I opted for the 3-Hybrid. I set the strike meter to just above the midpoint on the ball. I had aimed a good 30 yards to the right of the pin because the ball was 4 degrees above my feet and the 13 MPH wind was now more right to left than in my face.

It was going to require perfect execution to pull this off. I hit next to the max on my overswing and then hit my normal "one bar less than perfect tempo'. The ball started out on the line I'd envisioned. It was clearly going to come up a wee bit short, but it hit a mound near the greenside bunker and kicked hard toward the green. It rolled up on the green, 23 feet from the hole.

Facing me now was a double breaking putt that looked like it was from another dimension. I did the best I could with the read, knowing that the speed was going to be more critical than the read. I hit it perfectly, but it appeard the ball was going to miss the hole on the left. Then with its last ounce of momentum, it fell into the cup from the left side-door for the birdie. I let out a holler that had the family members come running to see if I was okay

I then saw the the tiebreaker gods had bestowed me with the lead by virtue of my eagle on 16. I actually had two bogeys to your one. Seriously though, I can't remember every being this worked up over a round of cyber-golf.

[10spro]

Those -7 look on solid ground. Being as breezy as it was, my take when I played my round late last night after my trip is that the gusty wind in the teens felt more like in the mid 20's for me. I may have had a total of 7 FIR and found myself scrambling from the rough or the beach most of the time. The greens despite the brownish color were too slick for me as I overshoot my putts by 4-5 feet. Finished at -3 but for me the issue was that I was never sure if the wind speed at Whistling was accurate as what it was showing as I struggled with my decision to pick the right club.

[DivotMaker]

I wanted to read some feedback on this setup. The winds are set to "Breezy" with gusts enabled. I saw winds as high as 17 MPH in my round. They were steadily in the teens though.

When I played, it was set to Gusty with Gusts enabled.

I was -1 at the turn and was content to mail it in, especially when I saw Ortho had posted a -8. What happened next blew me away. I birdied 10 and 11 to get to -3. Then bogeyed 12 with a 3-putt and lost interest in the round. Birdied the next 3 holes to get to -5. Eagled 16 with a double breaking 20' putt to get to -7 and my interest was back in the game. Hit my approach on 17 to 30' with a hard break R-L at the cup downhill 8 inches. Not sure how I made the putt, but suddenly tied for first going to 18. Hit my drive well, the hit my approach to 15' with a R-L breaking downhill (2") putt. Took something off the stroke and lipped out and had to settle for a par. Lost to Ortho on the tiebreaker. This round taught me that you can never truly give up on a round in this game because if you have more holes left than birdies to get, you can still turn it on and get there. I was utterly shocked at my 29 on the back in those conditions.

[vader29]

I was doing pretty well managing the wind at Whistling Straits and was -6 through 16 but my putter failed me on 17 and 18 and ended up with bogeys on each for a -4 finish.

[J_Cauthen]

When I played, it was set to Gusty with Gusts enabled.

You're right, I screwed this up... I meant to set them for breezy. Well, at least now I feel better about seeing winds in the high teens as consistently as I did in this round

I was -1 at the turn and was content to mail it in, especially when I saw Ortho had posted a -8. What happened next blew me away. I birdied 10 and 11 to get to -3. Then bogeyed 12 with a 3-putt and lost interest in the round. Birdied the next 3 holes to get to -5. Eagled 16 with a double breaking 20' putt to get to -7 and my interest was back in the game. Hit my approach on 17 to 30' with a hard break R-L at the cup downhill 8 inches. Not sure how I made the putt, but suddenly tied for first going to 18. Hit my drive well, the hit my approach to 15' with a R-L breaking downhill (2") putt. Took something off the stroke and lipped out and had to settle for a par. Lost to Ortho on the tiebreaker. This round taught me that you can never truly give up on a round in this game because if you have more holes left than birdies to get, you can still turn it on and get there. I was utterly shocked at my 29 on the back in those conditions.

Sounds like there were some similarities between your and my rounds, although my birdie putt at 17 didn't have a prayer! You make a very important point... you can never really give up on a round. A 29 on that back nine is sick!

[10spro]

Great shooting without the aids at Sawgrass JC.