Tiger Woods 13 PGA TOUR and CE Info

[10spro]

I enjoy the change of pace offered by the lack of grids + caddy.

Preference would probably be to mix it up, alternating it with grids on.

A mixture is fine with me too. If people wants to use a Pro, so be it. As long as we are still having fun and contributing for the CC. Wasn't Spooky interested earlier?

Good score on the daily, Truth.

[Danimal]

I'll probably mix it up. I wanted to try it this week because it is our US Open and dang it that should be a tough tourney.

I'm anxious to play my 2nd round.

[Wilk5280]

JC,
To answer your question, only one time has it been set to Tour Pro and I can't remember when. I'm playing in the Club Champ invitational this week and it's on one of the very easy settings. Post shot spin and all that jazz.

It's definitely not my preferred way to play the game, but I'm going through the motions just get it done, plus the high level of EXP and Status points that can be earned.

I've found that playing at different levels is having a negative affect on my tournament level abilities though.

[Gangrel]

you know something i thought of the other day that would basically solve all of our problems? (mostly?)

A handicap.


I don't see why this game can't give handicaps out, and it would be quite easy since it's tracking all of the necessary stats already??????


That way at least everyone has a fair shot of winning....... much like a real country club would do for their own tournaments.

[10spro]

John, no daily for today?

[J_Cauthen]

John, no daily for today?

Something's wrong with the OCC webpage. It doesn't populate the course field on the setup screen, nor does it show the tournaments currently underway. I'll keep at it, keep checking back.

[RallyMonkey]

In looking at the scores thus far at Bethpage, I gotta say I'm leaning towards playing more tourneys like this. I won't say it completely evens the field as I am still where I belong…at the bottom, but it did bring the big guns back to the pack a bit. I realize it isn't perfect in terms of reading the green, but I certainly feel like you can get a solid enough read between the caddy and panning around.

I for one would be against moving to a "you can play a pro if you want" philosophy simply because the whole reason we went to CAG's is to have fun building up our guy. I don't mind getting my face mashed in while i'm doing that. But like I said, perhaps the current weekly set up will help remove the uber-gap between top and bottom. JMO.

[J_Cauthen]

I still can't get the OCC website to display the current tournament information, not will it allow me to select a course on which to play today's Daily. I tried just checking other club's sites just to see what they display, and they're not showing any current tournament information either.

It's not just my computer, I tried going to the OCC website with my desktop and get the same result there.

[Wilk5280]

If you want to continue building up your CAG you can, while others who don't care about that can play with a pro. It shouldn't matter IMO. I feel like one of the reasons for the drop off in active players is because they're forced to use a CAG that they don't want to take the time to build up.

We've had ample time to build our guys up so if peeps want to use a pro I say let 'em

[10spro]

FWIW, I did get disconnected a couple of times while playing some online tourneys early today.

[Danimal]

Just went to the website it's still fubar.

[J_Cauthen]

James, I hope it's a sign they are working on the server software. I still can't get the County Club website to give the information needed to setup today's Daily. It usually shows what tournaments are underway. It will let me go to the tournament creation page, but on the drop down menu where it lets hyou select course, the drop down box is only one character wide, and clicking the drop down icon produces nothing.

[J_Cauthen]

Just went to the website it's still fubar.

In the venacular of some of the 'good ole boys' in my region, "somebody awta' raze hey-yull"

[Danimal]

I was -4 in the 2nd round at Bethpage going into 13 and ended up +2 thanks to an errant tee shot putting me under a tree (and the punch shot working for s***) and then the old morphing ball trick on the par 3 putting me against the lip of the bunker. Still was one of my most satisfying rounds. If only I had not butchered the 1st round I might have a chance.

I had to chip my ass off to get to that -4. I was a short game machine.

[10spro]

Funny, pretty much the same story for me going -3 thru 12 when my short game finally deserted me and missed a few putters ending at +2. On the positive side it's an improvement over my +4 in the first round.

[10spro]

James, I hope it's a sign they are working on the server software. I still can't get the County Club website to give the information needed to setup today's Daily. It usually shows what tournaments are underway. It will let me go to the tournament creation page, but on the drop down menu where it lets hyou select course, the drop down box is only one character wide, and clicking the drop down icon produces nothing.

Thanks for trying, will keep an eye on later on tonight.

[J_Cauthen]

It looks like I could set up an 18 hole Daily at Augusta (the default course for OCC tournament creation). I can set the difficulty, but the only thing I can't set is the tees and pins. So, we might be playing from the white tees and easy pins, but what the hey, better than nothing.

[J_Cauthen]

I made a failed attempt to set up a Daily for as far as the software would let me go. What you see on our Live Tournament menu as "Undefined" is the tournament I tried to create. The course name was vacant when I tried to create it, but it was showing the Augusta placard when I hit the "Create Tournament button. I got a response saying "Congratulations, your tournament has been created"... AS IF!?

[J_Cauthen]

FWIW, the Tournament creation problems are now being reported by 4 other clubs (surprised there isn't more than that) in EA's official Tiger Woods 13 forum. I started a new thread in their online play room, as I'd guess it probably gets more attention from the developers, monitoring technical problems that can be fixed without a patch. Tim?

[10spro]

Yeah, things are not working as they should. I was trying to look at the score of the weekly and our CC logo was covering the names. Hope they fix it up in the morning.

[J_Cauthen]

I was -4 in the 2nd round at Bethpage going into 13

You're doing a lot better than me Dan, I have never been under par at any point during my 36 holes of play! I've had one birdie in each round. I missed three birdie putts of 8 feet, or less, in round 2. The one I made was a 32 footer on the 18th

ended up +2 thanks to an errant tee shot putting me under a tree (and the punch shot working for s***)

I can relate... punch shot trajectories never seem to be low enough for me. I can put a 4-iron all the way in the back of my stance, hit the top 5th of the ball with the strike meter out of heavy rough, and the ball will still take off like a pitch shot

the old morphing ball trick on the par 3 putting me against the lip of the bunker. Still was one of my most satisfying rounds. If only I had not butchered the 1st round I might have a chance.

I haven't had the morphing ball phenomenon strike me yet in this tournament. I blew my round yesterday on the first par 5. I wasn't on the green until my 5th shot, luckily I made the 14 footer for bogey or it would have really been ugly.

I had to chip my ass off to get to that -4. I was a short game machine.

Same here, only I probably had more pitches than chips to save pars and in a few cases, bogeys. My problem continues to be lack of confidence in my putting on gridless greens. The caddy seems to get the direction of break right, but generally seems to overestimate the severity of it. He also seems to want my to putt more strength on uphill putts than needed. I'm still trying to figure out how to factor the information he's giving me into what is really needed for my putting technique. I still have a long way to go, but I've got to figure it out. I flat out suck at trying to read the slope without the grid, so I've got to do something with the information he'd giving me.

[Danimal]

Same here, only I probably had more pitches than chips to save pars and in a few cases, bogeys. My problem continues to be lack of confidence in my putting on gridless greens. The caddy seems to get the direction of break right, but generally seems to overestimate the severity of it. He also seems to want my to putt more strength on uphill putts than needed.

This is going to go in the "duh" advice category but I found the same thing. I just look at him for general break and then I adjust it based on how I know I putt which is a little bit harder then needed.

My routine is down stick. Then hit caddy from the distance view. Then zoom in and make adjustments. Then zoom out and check it out. Finally address ball and adjust. This last one is the most important for me. At address I can usually tell if I am off line.

As for uphill putts he wants way too much difference. I found with my stroke I am usually just over half of what he is asking.

For me I think the lack of grids had led me to stop my paralysis by analysis approach of the grids. I get a general read and I go for it. I knocked in a 30 footer last night only because I saw where the caddy wanted me to go, cut it in half and used my normal stroke for that distance.

The one trick I also suggest is if you hit it long and you know you did let the shot play out at the green because you can get a good read on the roll for chips.

[DChaps]

Yeah, things are not working as they should. I was trying to look at the score of the weekly and our CC logo was covering the names. Hope they fix it up in the morning.

Yeah, I experienced several wierd bugs this morning that I have not seen before. I was trying to take some screenshots of the weekly tournament settings as well as the leaderboard and I could not because the CC logo was covering up everything. I started trying other options and all the stat views were covered by CC logo. Wierd. I also had an unprecedented 5 lockups in one night before I finally got a complete practice round in at Bethspage. All my online tournament attempts failed.

Quick question, when using the Caddie for putting, what should I be adjusting? For example if the little caddie recommendation circle is about 3 feet to the right of the cup and 5 feet behind it, does it mean that is where I should aim and hit it very hard? I tried several different approaches to adjusting based on the caddie circle and never seemed to figure out what I was supposed to be doing.

[Naples39]

Quick question, when using the Caddie for putting, what should I be adjusting? For example if the little caddie recommendation circle is about 3 feet to the right of the cup and 5 feet behind it, does it mean that is where I should aim and hit it very hard? I tried several different approaches to adjusting based on the caddie circle and never seemed to figure out what I was supposed to be doing.

Theoretically, you should place your aiming marker in the middle of the caddie's white circle. You do have to swing slightly harder, but that's only because a 40 foot putt requires a larger swing than a 10 foot putt.

Like others, I find the caddie usually overstates the break. Also, your natural putting stroke may also mean you typically need to place your aiming marker shorter or longer than the caddie's recommended distance (found by trial and error).

[J_Cauthen]

Yeah, I experienced several wierd bugs this morning that I have not seen before. I was trying to take some screenshots of the weekly tournament settings as well as the leaderboard and I could not because the CC logo was covering up everything. I started trying other options and all the stat views were covered by CC logo. Wierd. I also had an unprecedented 5 lockups in one night before I finally got a complete practice round in at Bethspage. All my online tournament attempts failed.

A developer just now posted in the official forum that they are aware of the Country Club Tournament creation problem and are working on it. The problem you're seeing with the CC logo showed up at the same time as the problem with the creation tool. I'm confident they are related.

Quick question, when using the Caddie for putting, what should I be adjusting? For example if the little caddie recommendation circle is about 3 feet to the right of the cup and 5 feet behind it, does it mean that is where I should aim and hit it very hard? I tried several different approaches to adjusting based on the caddie circle and never seemed to figure out what I was supposed to be doing.

Dan seems to have a better handle on this than me, but I think of the center of the circle as the hole, and I'm trying to roll the ball so that it stops at that point. However, I find that it's usually overstated. The bigger the break or slope difference, the more exaggerated that aiming circle is going to be. My rule of thumb so far is to adjust it back to about 60 to 70% of the distance and direction the caddy is suggesting. That rule applies to my putting technique, in which I take the "overswing" region out of the equation.