Tiger Woods 13 PGA TOUR and CE Info

[10spro]

Never had a freeze in the game once...

...until today.

Playing round 1 of the Daily, I'm carrying a -4 into the back 9 and hit the green...it goes silent, and freezes.

Stuff like this is seriously irritating. And JC--was that a -13 in one round? Or multiple rounds?

I think that was only after only 2 rounds. Scary, I know.

[10spro]

Won Pinehurst #2 against another CC. First time I ran into a dude that played as TW instead of a CAG during the game. Wonder if there's extra points merits when one beats a Pro in CC matches.

[fsquid]

Well the Hog put up a 58 at St. Andrews. Damn.

[J_Cauthen]

Never had a freeze in the game once...

...until today.

Playing round 1 of the Daily, I'm carrying a -4 into the back 9 and hit the green...it goes silent, and freezes.

Stuff like this is seriously irritating. And JC--was that a -13 in one round? Or multiple rounds?

That's a bummer... I entered the back 9 at -4 in round 1, and wound up -8 for the round. I had a -5 in round 2, after a double bogey on the 11th. So yeah, that -13 is after two rounds. I tell you what, East Lake looks so much better in Tiger 13!

[DivotMaker]

Well the Hog put up a 58 at St. Andrews. Damn.

Damn good round. I ended up -6 after a triple at 18....I gotta say, St. Andrews has THE WORST pin placements of ANY course in TW13....I hope we never play this again or if we do, put it up with easy pins because some of these are on slopes and it is just ridiculous. Double bogeyed the par 5 on the back 9 and I was on in TWO....when the putt comes to the hole and if it does not go in, it goes all the way off the green into the rough? And the shot coming back you can't see because there is a TV stand in the way.....sorry to b*tch folks, very frustrating round.

[Gurantsu]

I had my first lock up yesterday, while playing at Augusta in my golfers career on the PS3. Sucked but it was a crappy round I had going anyway!

Switching back and forth between PS3 and Xbox is driving me a bit nuts, as the controllers are different enough that you can't use the same feel for both, and on tournament level its all about feel. I may go back to using Kinect only for Xbox. Now that my guys stats are up a bit, I'm hoping that will make it better.

[TheTruth]

Well the Hog put up a 58 at St. Andrews. Damn.

Damn good round. I ended up -6 after a triple at 18....I gotta say, St. Andrews has THE WORST pin placements of ANY course in TW13....I hope we never play this again or if we do, put it up with easy pins because some of these are on slopes and it is just ridiculous. Double bogeyed the par 5 on the back 9 and I was on in TWO....when the putt comes to the hole and if it does not go in, it goes all the way off the green into the rough? And the shot coming back you can't see because there is a TV stand in the way.....sorry to b*tch folks, very frustrating round.

Thanks! I guess I was in the zone...heh. I was -9 after 16 holes and then eagled the par 4 17th on a 190 yd iron shot. It was awesome..took two bounces and landed right in the hole. Lady luck was shining on me. I then birded 18 to finish the round off. I putted very well making several 12-15 ft bending putts. That is one area I have been struggling with, is those sharp downward slope putts, but nailed a few that round. I am starting to take a little more time reading the green on my approach shots too, which obviously helps as well, so not always going pin seeking when you can land it on a part of the green for an easier birdie putt.

East Lake quickly humbled me though. I couldn't make a birdie putt to save my life.

[10spro]

Well the Hog put up a 58 at St. Andrews. Damn.

Wow, and while you may have missed here and there with your driver, unless you landed on a bunker, FIR were a given on this course. But the pins were pretty tough and to score that is damn good. Grats Truth.

[Aristo]

For DSP II members, I just added a TourPro and a Pro Daily tourney on 4/16 and 4/18.

I don't see how to delete current tourneys, so everything I had put up from before will stay.

My plan is to run two weeklies, if I can manage it. It doesn't like to let you overlap. During the week, I will do a TourPro tourney, and on Thursday I will run the same tourney that Danimal is running in the main CC, and have it set to Tournament.

I plan to rotate Daily's, with Tournament mode every other day, and on the off days, rotate TourPro and Pro.

While the plan is to feed into the main CC, I also want to make sure folks are having fun. We have seven members now.

Myself
BIG DISC0 (Spooky)
Drkbandit
DonanGWJ (a friend from GWJ whose CC I left to start this one)
Rally71
MixDJ1
Sport73

While this CC is designed to take the overflow of the main one Danimal is running, it has no bearing on any waitlist, not does it automatically put you on it. That needs to be taken up with Danimal directly.

I'm also open to suggestions in regards to tourneys and difficulty. We are going to have some number of Tournament difficulty tourneys, but I'll respond to feedback on how many of the lower difficulty tourneys we want and what meters you want on or not.

Also, I believe any participation in EA's tournaments, Weekly, Daily, and Play the Pros, will contribute to the CC status. So if you don't find a tourney you want on the CC, take a look at those.

[Spooky]

Thanks for setting up the DSP II Club Aristo!

[Aristo]

Thanks for setting up the DSP II Club Aristo!

Not a problem. It's not really much work, although the interface to set tourneys is a little wonky.

One thing I think EA got really right with TW 13 is emphasizing CC's over was was more like an early example of what they did with SSX in TW 11. In that game you had tons of pop-ups challenging you to make shots like others, giving you points and such for achieving them, or other failing the challenges you left. It got really annoying, where it works really well for SSX.

The CCs suit TW much more, and i a better way to engage the community.

[DivotMaker]

East Lake quickly humbled me though. I couldn't make a birdie putt to save my life.

Like the real game of Golf, "it taketh away and it giveth"......

[DChaps]

Well last night I had one of the most frustrating gaming experiences I have ever had followed by one of the most rewarding.

My problem ever since switching to the controller from the Kinect is that I cannot figure out how to drive. My CAG has a 51 power and should be able to hit it around 240-250 depending on wind, etc. However, most of the time I was hitting it less than 100 yards with the driver and then following it up with 80 yards with an iron. Getting to the green on a par 4 after taking 6 shots is not fun. So after watching a bunch of videos and reading back through the helpful tips in these threads, I decided to play some of my offline career in Tour Pro difficulty. While having the meters helped a little, I was still messing up a lot of drives and irons. I shot like a +40 for one round in the Carrer mode using the Tour Pro. So then I went to the practice facility and just concentrated on different drives and irons for about 30 minutes until I was getting consistent distance. At that point I decided to change back to Tournament difficulty and practice drives again. I was immediately back to hitting it 80 yards off the tee. I just about threw the controller at the TV. The frustrating thing is that the meter was telling me the same thing that it had been in Tour Pro. I do understand that the the Tour Pro "sweet spot" for tempo, speed, etc. is more narrow, but as had been stated here by others, it almost seems pointless to try and practice the other difficulty settings if you are ultimately wanting to play in the DSP Tournaments. So I sucked it up and just started driving over and over on the practice range at Tournament difficulty. I finally got to the point where I drove it over 240 30 times in a row without having a duff, so then I decided to go play a round. Again, immediately I was hitting it less than 100 yards off the tee and it did not seem like any adjustment I made on swing, tempo, speed, etc. gave me a different result. At this point I was about to give up but I decided to go back to the practice range one last time. This time I just started hitting 10 shots in a row driver first, then switch down to 3 wood, then a couple irons, then back to driver. Switch to a different target and start over again. I did this for about an hour and something finally clicked. I would not call it an AHA moment, because I still don't honestly understand what I am supposed to be striving for. I don't understand what the slow, fast or perfect tempo means. I don't really understand the overswing/underswing either. I mean I do in theroy, but it seems like I would receive overswing even when I had barely pulled back or pushed forward on the stick. Either way, I guess I don't care too much because the feel was finally there. Now I undertand all the love for the game. Once you get the feel, it is really rewarding.

So I then decided to go play the first round of the DSP Weekly at East Lake. Lo and behold I am driving consistently off the tee. I actually make my first birdie, then I made a couple more. Of course I had a couple really bad holes, but I end up shooting an 83 (+13), 85.7% Fairways in Reg, 61.1% Greens in regulation, 39 Total Putts. While I know this is not good, it is way better than the +40's I had been shooting and the more important thing was that it felt like I finally could tell why something went wrong and/or why it went right. I even chipped one in on 18. I have never been so pumped shooting such a crappy score.

Last night I played this game for almost 6 hours straight, without one freeze. I have had at least 10 lockups if not more since having the game early with the Season Pass and then receiving the CE on release day. That made a huge difference not only in enjoyment, but also in my ability to get some decent practice time without getting frustrated.

The key to the no freezing may have been launching from the XBL Games Tab vs. the XBL Home Tab. I always launch from the Home tab, but after seeing a post here yesterday about it, I tried launching from the Games tab in the XBL menu instead. I can't believe that could be the difference, but it was the only time I have played the game in the last two weeks where I ended the playing on my own accord, not because the game decided to freeze on me. Your results may vary, but I was very pleasantly surprised. I kept expecting my Round 1 at East Lake to lock up on me, especially after I made my first birdie. Fortunately it did not.

So the key for me (DUGH!), in the immortal words of Alan Iverson, "We're talking about practice. I mean listen, we're sitting here talking about practice,". For me it was all about practice. I still wish I understood what I was doing differently when I could only knock it less than 100yd off the tee vs. being able to hit it 250, but I won't worry about it for now. I am fearful that I will play the game again tonight and be back to my struggling ways, but I at least know what to do about it.

Anyway, just wanted to say thanks to all of you who have offered advice and listened to my ranting and raving. I am stoked to get in Round 2 later tonight.

[DivotMaker]

The key to the no freezing may have been launching from the XBL Games Tab vs. the XBL Home Tab. I always launch from the Home tab, but after seeing a post here yesterday about it, I tried launching from the Games tab in the XBL menu instead. I can't believe that could be the difference, but it was the only time I have played the game in the last two weeks where I ended the playing on my own accord, not because the game decided to freeze on me. Your results may vary, but I was very pleasantly surprised. I kept expecting my Round 1 at East Lake to lock up on me, especially after I made my first birdie. Fortunately it did not.

So the key for me (DUGH!), in the immortal words of Alan Iverson, "We're talking about practice. I mean listen, we're sitting here talking about practice,". For me it was all about practice. I still wish I understood what I was doing differently when I could only knock it less than 100yd off the tee vs. being able to hit it 250, but I won't worry about it for now. I am fearful that I will play the game again tonight and be back to my struggling ways, but I at least know what to do about it.

Anyway, just wanted to say thanks to all of you who have offered advice and listened to my ranting and raving. I am stoked to get in Round 2 later tonight.

No worries. I am still freezing regardless of where I launch.

This game is all about practice....the more you are able to groove your swing and get comfortable with the short game and putting, your enjoyment and fulfillment playing this game will increase immensely. So glad to see you are getting the hang of the game and you have been a real trooper taking your time to learn this game because "it ain't easy".....

[J_Cauthen]

Well the Hog put up a 58 at St. Andrews. Damn.

Damn good round. I ended up -6 after a triple at 18....I gotta say, St. Andrews has THE WORST pin placements of ANY course in TW13....I hope we never play this again or if we do, put it up with easy pins because some of these are on slopes and it is just ridiculous. Double bogeyed the par 5 on the back 9 and I was on in TWO....when the putt comes to the hole and if it does not go in, it goes all the way off the green into the rough? And the shot coming back you can't see because there is a TV stand in the way.....sorry to b*tch folks, very frustrating round.

Yes, these were ridiculous pin placements... and these were only "Hard-3". Imagine what the expert pins must be like. The par 5 you are referring to is 14. I had a 12 foot putt for birdie, and wound up chipping in from off the green for a bogey!? It was the silliest pin placement I think I've ever seen

Nothing above medium pin settings at St. Andrews henceforth. And to think, the speed was a set to average. Can you imagine what sort of scoring we'd have seen with Tournament speed?

This all just makes The Truth's 58 the round of the DSP CC season... Mr. Truth, I humbly bow before you in honor

[J_Cauthen]

So I then decided to go play the first round of the DSP Weekly at East Lake. Lo and behold I am driving consistently off the tee. I actually make my first birdie, then I made a couple more. Of course I had a couple really bad holes, but I end up shooting an 83 (+13), 85.7% Fairways in Reg, 61.1% Greens in regulation, 39 Total Putts. While I know this is not good, it is way better than the +40's I had been shooting and the more important thing was that it felt like I finally could tell why something went wrong and/or why it went right. I even chipped one in on 18. I have never been so pumped shooting such a crappy score.

Don, sounds like you're not far away from having your "aha" moment. Once your power gets into the low 70's, I think you'll see a big difference.

[DivotMaker]

East Lake Golf Club can kiss my @ss.....was -7 after the 8th hole coming ton the par 5 9th. All I had to do was put the drive ion the fairway for a sure birdie and possible eagle. So I hit my drive in the trees, takes me 2 shots to get to the fairway and ended up somehow with just a bogey. Proceeded to hit every drive from there on in in the rough, took 5 consecutive bogeys before birdies on the final 3 holes (don't ask me how) to end up -5....this game certainly highlights the HIGHS and lows you can get from playing real Golf.....

[Danimal]

Don, sounds like you're not far away from having your "aha" moment. Once your power gets into the low 70's, I think you'll see a big difference.

My power is a 61 and I average about 280 yards with the driver. What are you getting in the 70's?

[J_Cauthen]

Don, sounds like you're not far away from having your "aha" moment. Once your power gets into the low 70's, I think you'll see a big difference.

My power is a 61 and I average about 280 yards with the driver. What are you getting in the 70's?

I'm at 91 now, but I'm averaging 290, with regular shafts and a slow tempo swing. My slow tempo is just barely below what a perfect tempo would deliver though. where I think I get more help with the added power is the carry of my mid and long irons.

[Leadfoot5]

I'm at 91 now, but I'm averaging 290, with regular shafts and a slow tempo swing. My slow tempo is just barely below what a perfect tempo would deliver though. where I think I get more help with the added power is the carry of my mid and long irons.

With this crappy weather in SoCal this weekend, I plan on spending lots of time getting my CAG out of the 60s and into the 70's and beyond... It's clear that attributes really matter...

[pk500]

Well the Hog put up a 58 at St. Andrews. Damn.

Damn good round. I ended up -6 after a triple at 18....I gotta say, St. Andrews has THE WORST pin placements of ANY course in TW13....I hope we never play this again or if we do, put it up with easy pins because some of these are on slopes and it is just ridiculous. Double bogeyed the par 5 on the back 9 and I was on in TWO....when the putt comes to the hole and if it does not go in, it goes all the way off the green into the rough? And the shot coming back you can't see because there is a TV stand in the way.....sorry to b*tch folks, very frustrating round.

Yes, these were ridiculous pin placements... and these were only "Hard-3". Imagine what the expert pins must be like. The par 5 you are referring to is 14. I had a 12 foot putt for birdie, and wound up chipping in from off the green for a bogey!? It was the silliest pin placement I think I've ever seen

Nothing above medium pin settings at St. Andrews henceforth. And to think, the speed was a set to average. Can you imagine what sort of scoring we'd have seen with Tournament speed?

This all just makes The Truth's 58 the round of the DSP CC season... Mr. Truth, I humbly bow before you in honor

No doubt. That's a PHENOMENAL round.

I shot +1 after bogeying two of the last three holes. Those pin placements were DIABOLICAL!

[Aristo]

Don, sounds like you're not far away from having your "aha" moment. Once your power gets into the low 70's, I think you'll see a big difference.

My power is a 61 and I average about 280 yards with the driver. What are you getting in the 70's?

I'm average around 270 and I'm not quite to 60 yet in power yet. And I've have several Long drives, including a 346 yard bomb. I complete a St. Andrews round at -7, hitting 100% of the fairways. Of course, St. Andrew is probably the easiest fairways to hit.

As much as I am loving the game so far, it is clearly becoming too easy with even moderate ratings. My putting is up to 70, but everything else is in the high 50's to low 60's. This afternoon I played a random guy head-to-head for nine holes. It was tournament difficulty, and even had the green grids off. I had to bogies, two birdies, and five pars. My opponent birdied every hole except the the two I birdied. He eagled those, and I lost by by 11 strokes.

He had a CAG, but I don't know what his rating were. But I could tell from his ball trails that he was using heavy fades and draws.

[TheTruth]

Nice round on the daily Ortho. I missed several birdies by inches - wouldn't be surprised to see a -12 or better round on this one.

[Spooky]

As much as I am loving the game so far, it is clearly becoming too easy with even moderate ratings. My putting is up to 70, but everything else is in the high 50's to low 60's. This afternoon I played a random guy head-to-head for nine holes. It was tournament difficulty, and even had the green grids off. I had to bogies, two birdies, and five pars. My opponent birdied every hole except the the two I birdied. He eagled those, and I lost by by 11 strokes.

He had a CAG, but I don't know what his rating were. But I could tell from his ball trails that he was using heavy fades and draws.

My biggest fear of this game and my biggest gripe of all versions of Tiger. F*ck. When will they just let you create a player with a fixed amount of points to distribute and have the stats be constrained to normal human abilities???????!!!!!!!

[TheTruth]

As much as I am loving the game so far, it is clearly becoming too easy with even moderate ratings. My putting is up to 70, but everything else is in the high 50's to low 60's. This afternoon I played a random guy head-to-head for nine holes. It was tournament difficulty, and even had the green grids off. I had to bogies, two birdies, and five pars. My opponent birdied every hole except the the two I birdied. He eagled those, and I lost by by 11 strokes.

He had a CAG, but I don't know what his rating were. But I could tell from his ball trails that he was using heavy fades and draws.

My biggest fear of this game and my biggest gripe of all versions of Tiger. F*ck. When will they just let you create a player with a fixed amount of points to distribute and have the stats be constrained to normal human abilities???????!!!!!!!

There is a fixed amount this year. But you still have to build them up. It is like 510 total you can apply across all categories. But hard course conditions and weather will keep scores down. No putting grid helps too. And it is possible to putt without grids. Just takes practice - similar to turning all the meters off.