Tiger Woods 13 PGA TOUR and CE Info

[Naples39]

I've played 2 dozen+ rounds and I feel like I am just starting to get touch on my putts.

The key is like every other swing type in the game, a smooth rhythm. Before I always had to aim short, and my jerky motion that I use for longer shots would send the ball way past the target, even on small backswings. Now I take a large backswing, but it is slow and smooth (particularly on the follow through), and my putts travel about the length of the target (after compensating for slope of course).

[Diablo25]

Just my two cents on putting. Perhaps you guys have heard this before or maybe have been doing it or its no big secret...but here goes. This is my process I use when putting and it always gets me the right distances (or fairly close)

First off, course conditions are key (obviously). Depending on conditions you must take off a certain percentage when putting.

Slow = 10% off, Average = 20% off, Fast = 30% off, Tournament = 40% off

**I never move the cursor short or past the hole. I only move the cursor left or right for break.

Here is an example. Let's say course conditions are Fast. You have a 15 foot putt but it's uphill 2 inches. Again, don't move the cursor past or short of the hole. Add 1 foot to the putt for every inch uphill (or take off 1 foot for every inch on a downhill putt)...in this case add 2 feet to the putt making it a 17 foot putt. Now, take 30% off the putt due to FAST conditions. 30% of 17 = 5.1 feet. 17 minus 5.1 is roughly 12 feet. Take the break into consideration and hit the putt as if it were a 12 footer. I have found that this system (as weird as it might sound) works great. It really helps with downhill putts.

I gauge all my putts by my backswing distance. If you take the putter head to the big toe of you back foot...that is about a 5 foot putt. Obviously tempo and pace come into play. Barely outside of the backfoot is about 10-12 feet (that is where I would take the putter head on the above mentioned example. 20 feet is a bit further and so on. My backswing when putting is VERY SLOW.

Again, this is my quirky/weird/bizarre way of putting but it takes all the guesswork out of putt distance. Play a practice round and give it a whirl. It may be weird but it works.

PS. For medium to long putts I use the overhead camera so I can better see how far to take back my putter head.

[Leadfoot5]

It's kinda crazy/weird that the putting mechanic allows for such different approaches to have equal amounts of success. Without reading any tips, I managed to come up with a method of my own that I will probably stick with now that I can drain the occasional 25+ foot putt and two putt most everything else.

I do move the cursor behind and in front of the hole depending on the elevation change. Each grid line is 6 inches. So if I am a foot below the hole, the cursor is moved two gridline lengths behind the hole. If the green is playing fast, I will shorten in a bit. If it's playing slow, I'll lengthen it a bit. Then I go by feel for the break.

As for the back-swing and follow-through, I don't have a formula. I go by feel. It took a few rounds, but I now understand the backswing and tempo well enough that a proper cursor position and consistent putting motion will usually net a positive result. If I mis-hit a putt, I know it even before the ball starts rolling; I can feel it in my swing.

[DChaps]

**I never move the cursor short or past the hole. I only move the cursor left or right for break.

Here is an example. Let's say course conditions are Fast. You have a 15 foot putt but it's uphill 2 inches. Again, don't move the cursor past or short of the hole. Add 1 foot to the putt for every inch uphill (or take off 1 foot for every inch on a downhill putt)...in this case add 2 feet to the putt making it a 17 foot putt. Now, take 30% off the putt due to FAST conditions. 30% of 17 = 5.1 feet. 17 minus 5.1 is roughly 12 feet. Take the break into consideration and hit the putt as if it were a 12 footer. I have found that this system (as weird as it might sound) works great. It really helps with downhill putts......

Ok, I know I am just going to show more of my incompetence here, but how do you add 2 feet to the putt without using the cursor? I thought that was what the cursor was for? Also, what do you mean by take 30% off the putt due to fast conditions? Sorry for my lack of comprehension, but I guess what I am asking is exactly what buttons or sticks are you pushing to accomplish this and when in the process? Geez this game makes me feel dumb.

[pk500]

There's absolutely no rhyme or reason behind my putting. I just put the cursor near or on where my caddie indicates and putt -- all by feel without meters on Tournament.

I was HORRIBLE putting with the demo and in my early days with the retail game. But now I average around 30 to 32 putts per round, rarely three-putting. Drained a 55-footer last night for bird at Oakmont, which was VERY satisfying.

Oakmont is a b*tch, by the way. I think it's tougher than Augusta. Absolutely zero margin for error off the tees due to the narrow fairways, and the greens are just as undulating as Augusta.

[TheTruth]

I haven't played all the coureses yet, but Pinehurst can kiss my you know what. Those greens are the suck.

We gonna try to all get together tonight and play some rounds?? Really had a good time the first night we did this.

[Aristo]

Managed to finish with a +10 or 11 at East Lake in our DSP II CC. I think I was 16 of 18 for GIR but my putting was horrendous. 80% of the time I hit it WAY too hard. Then I get scarred and severely under hit it.

That was a really hard course today. I triple bogeyed the first hole and it was downhill from there. I thought I had a chance to beat yur *cough* +13, but I was already at +13 by hole 16. But a par on 17 and a birdie on 18 let me beat you by a single stroke for the day.

So I played the Banff in the daily, prepared for the worst. Suddenly everything I did wrong stopped happening. I hit par on the first five holes. Even though I missed a couple of birdies I should have had, I was happy. Then I bogeyed a 6. Then I double bogeyed 7. But I buckled down and was at +2 after nine. I then went got rolling, hitting six birdies on the back nine. Unfortunately I bogeyed 18 and finished -3. It was a fun round after the nightmare of East Lake.

[Diablo25]

**I never move the cursor short or past the hole. I only move the cursor left or right for break.

Here is an example. Let's say course conditions are Fast. You have a 15 foot putt but it's uphill 2 inches. Again, don't move the cursor past or short of the hole. Add 1 foot to the putt for every inch uphill (or take off 1 foot for every inch on a downhill putt)...in this case add 2 feet to the putt making it a 17 foot putt. Now, take 30% off the putt due to FAST conditions. 30% of 17 = 5.1 feet. 17 minus 5.1 is roughly 12 feet. Take the break into consideration and hit the putt as if it were a 12 footer. I have found that this system (as weird as it might sound) works great. It really helps with downhill putts......

Ok, I know I am just going to show more of my incompetence here, but how do you add 2 feet to the putt without using the cursor? I thought that was what the cursor was for? Also, what do you mean by take 30% off the putt due to fast conditions? Sorry for my lack of comprehension, but I guess what I am asking is exactly what buttons or sticks are you pushing to accomplish this and when in the process? Geez this game makes me feel dumb.

The quick and easy response DC is I just use the above "formula" and do the calculation in my head to get a number.

In my example above the calculation for a 15 foot putt, 2 inches uphill, in fast conditions comes to putting the ball like it is a 12 foot putt. Possible conditions in the game are Slow, Average, Fast and Tournament. You need to take a percentage off your putt depending on the conditions. If you just look at a 15 foot putt uphill in this game and think "I gotta hit this thing harder than 15 feet" - you will blow it by the hole. The same exact putt I calculated above but with "Average" conditions instead of "Fast" you would only take 20% off because Average greens are slower greens than "Fast" greens.

Check out this guys video. It's from last years game but it works. It's basically what I do but I don't move the cursor longer or shorter (he does it because he's using the swing meter and we don't use the swing meter in our CC). I use his formula to calculate how hard I'm going to hit it. That's it.

[10spro]

Guys, I was just looking forward to download the Sniiper Elite demo when I decided to delete certain games and previews like the Fifa Street preview and TW 13. In doing so, when I popped my CE disc all my data including my CAG seemed to be gone. WTF? That, from deleting the preview version? Wasn't all the proper information transferred with the purchase of the game? What about all the DLC? Please tell me that it ain't so....

[DivotMaker]

10, it should still be there. Go into Manage Golfers and see if you can find it there. Crossing my fingers for you.

[Diablo25]

I am getting REALLY fn tired of having this game freeze up at launch 3 and 4 times before I can get it going. Once it starts everything is fine but the freezes are FRUSTRATING.

[DivotMaker]

I am getting REALLY fn tired of having this game freeze up at launch 3 and 4 times before I can get it going. Once it starts everything is fine but the freezes are FRUSTRATING.

You and me along with quite a few others.....it'll be fixed with the patch.

[Diablo25]

I am getting REALLY fn tired of having this game freeze up at launch 3 and 4 times before I can get it going. Once it starts everything is fine but the freezes are FRUSTRATING.

You and me along with quite a few others.....it'll be fixed with the patch.

Hope so.

[10spro]

10, it should still be there. Go into Manage Golfers and see if you can find it there. Crossing my fingers for you.

Thanks man. Wheeew, that was weird. I actually rebooted and my data was back there again. Back to the saddle.

[Aristo]

I am getting REALLY fn tired of having this game freeze up at launch 3 and 4 times before I can get it going. Once it starts everything is fine but the freezes are FRUSTRATING.

I wonder what the deal is with EA games. NHL 12 had (has?) the same problem, but I never experienced it. I haven't had an issue with TW 13 either. But just like NHL 12, when someone does have it, it's a constant pain in the butt.

I wonder what is different for people that do and don't get freezes.

[Spooky]

Managed to finish with a +10 or 11 at East Lake in our DSP II CC. I think I was 16 of 18 for GIR but my putting was horrendous. 80% of the time I hit it WAY too hard. Then I get scarred and severely under hit it.

That was a really hard course today. I triple bogeyed the first hole and it was downhill from there. I thought I had a chance to beat yur *cough* +13, but I was already at +13 by hole 16. But a par on 17 and a birdie on 18 let me beat you by a single stroke for the day.

So I played the Banff in the daily, prepared for the worst. Suddenly everything I did wrong stopped happening. I hit par on the first five holes. Even though I missed a couple of birdies I should have had, I was happy. Then I bogeyed a 6. Then I double bogeyed 7. But I buckled down and was at +2 after nine. I then went got rolling, hitting six birdies on the back nine. Unfortunately I bogeyed 18 and finished -3. It was a fun round after the nightmare of East Lake.

Oh man - I did have a +13 for the round...ugh. I will attempt a better 2nd round tonight hopefully. And the new 'Daily' tourney is for a course that I don't have unlocked/downloaded...

[J_Cauthen]

What was my big "find"?

The setting for Club Distance

I was messing with the settings and noticed it was set to Carry Distance, not total club distance. This whole time I've been trying to calculate shots based on my marker thinking it was total distance. As soon as I changed it from carry to total distance, my game instantly improved. It's amazing how different it is when you're not trying to calculate carry distance...off of carry distance

I can definitely see where that would put you at a disadvantage! I play with carry distance enabled, but I'm always thinking carry distance. I bet a lot of other areas will come to you now that you've reconciled this issue

[TCrouch]

Yeah it helped, but I still have work to do. At least now when I screw up a shot, I know why. I just wonked out a +4 at the Pinehurst #2 Daily. I was all over the map--some birdies, an eagle, a couple double bogeys...but I knew when I missed a shot it was all me, and less random stuff. Before I'd have probably posted a +20 there in those winds and with those greens.

[Aristo]

And the new 'Daily' tourney is for a course that I don't have unlocked/downloaded...

Sorry about that. When setting up tourneys I have been trying to avoid downloadables. I thought Banff was stock.

[J_Cauthen]

This. I don't want to ever shoot a score that is honestly impossible in real life. Right now, there's little chance that's going to happen, but when it has in the past, my interest in the game has waned quickly.

I wouldn't want to go out and shoot that kind of score every round myself. The first 59 felt cool, but the second one felt like I was stealing something. Well, I got a dose of reality this morning. I shot a 66 at Scottsdale, after triple bogeying the par 5 13th. I was only 35 yards from the hole with my second shot, and required 6 shots to get down from there It felt good to get pimp-slapped again!

[J_Cauthen]

I just wonked out a +4 at the Pinehurst #2 Daily. I was all over the map--some birdies, an eagle, a couple double bogeys...but I knew when I missed a shot it was all me, and less random stuff. Before I'd have probably posted a +20 there in those winds and with those greens.

I've yet to play my round at Pinehurst #2. I had it set to Live weather... so the wind is up at Pinehurst, or is this part of the live weather problems the game is having? I had Scottsdale's settings at Live weather for yesterday's Daily, it seemed believable to me this morning.

The greens were set to fast at Pinehurst #2 for today's round. I hope there weren't any canival pin settings. I think I had them set to medium 1 or 2. +4 at Pinehurst can be a pretty solid score!

[Aristo]

What was my big "find"?

The setting for Club Distance

I was messing with the settings and noticed it was set to Carry Distance, not total club distance. This whole time I've been trying to calculate shots based on my marker thinking it was total distance. As soon as I changed it from carry to total distance, my game instantly improved. It's amazing how different it is when you're not trying to calculate carry distance...off of carry distance

I can definitely see where that would put you at a disadvantage! I play with carry distance enabled, but I'm always thinking carry distance. I bet a lot of other areas will come to you now that you've reconciled this issue

This is one of my gripes with this year's game. I liked not only did I not have an aiming reticule, but all I had was my carrying distance for each club. I then had to read the lay of the land and the type of shot I was attempting to get the right kind of roll and ball placement.

I don't like that they give you the expected roll as part of your info.

To me, carrying distance is primary. I need to know what I will be landing on to how much roll I will get. Then I can start adjusting my shot to decrease or increase the roll. Or I might go with a different club, because I can adjust the spin better.

Which also reminds me that I can't wait until my CAG is good enough to have an actual spin. Try int stick landing on greens, or increase the roll is a fun part of the game that isn't really available to me yet.

I feel like this game takes away so much of what I had to think about in TW 11.

[Diablo25]

What was my big "find"?

The setting for Club Distance

I was messing with the settings and noticed it was set to Carry Distance, not total club distance. This whole time I've been trying to calculate shots based on my marker thinking it was total distance. As soon as I changed it from carry to total distance, my game instantly improved. It's amazing how different it is when you're not trying to calculate carry distance...off of carry distance

I can definitely see where that would put you at a disadvantage! I play with carry distance enabled, but I'm always thinking carry distance. I bet a lot of other areas will come to you now that you've reconciled this issue

This is one of my gripes with this year's game. I liked not only did I not have an aiming reticule, but all I had was my carrying distance for each club. I then had to read the lay of the land and the type of shot I was attempting to get the right kind of roll and ball placement.

I don't like that they give you the expected roll as part of your info.

To me, carrying distance is primary. I need to know what I will be landing on to how much roll I will get. Then I can start adjusting my shot to decrease or increase the roll. Or I might go with a different club, because I can adjust the spin better.

Which also reminds me that I can't wait until my CAG is good enough to have an actual spin. Try int stick landing on greens, or increase the roll is a fun part of the game that isn't really available to me yet.

I feel like this game takes away so much of what I had to think about in TW 11.

To each his own but I don't understand what the game takes away. IMO, it doesn't matter if you have carry distance or roll distance enabled. Professional golfers know both distances of their clubs...that is what this game emulates. I LOVE THAT. You still gotta execute the shot by taking into consideration the wind slope conditions, etc.

[10spro]

I just wonked out a +4 at the Pinehurst #2 Daily. I was all over the map--some birdies, an eagle, a couple double bogeys...but I knew when I missed a shot it was all me, and less random stuff. Before I'd have probably posted a +20 there in those winds and with those greens.

I've yet to play my round at Pinehurst #2. I had it set to Live weather... so the wind is up at Pinehurst, or is this part of the live weather problems the game is having? I had Scottsdale's settings at Live weather for yesterday's Daily, it seemed believable to me this morning.

The greens were set to fast at Pinehurst #2 for today's round. I hope there weren't any canival pin settings. I think I had them set to medium 1 or 2. +4 at Pinehurst can be a pretty solid score!

I like Live weather. Having said that, the wind did create havoc in a lot of my shots. Some of the greens were brutal for me with their fast speed and lies, in fact I didn't mind chipping in a lot of shots close to the pin in a lot of cases, instead of reading the greens. Tough course. +5 today.

[Aristo]

To each his own but I don't understand what the game takes away. IMO, it doesn't matter if you have carry distance or roll distance enabled. Professional golfers know both distances of their clubs...that is what this game emulates. I LOVE THAT. You still gotta execute the shot by taking into consideration the wind slope conditions, etc.

I get that. There was some more immersive about not having an arrow that says it will land here. Although I do like the lack of % numbers telling you exactly how much power you are generating. And I like the meterless putting feels intuitive, when I never thought it would. Of course, the completely awful putting meter made it easier to give it up. There is a ton this game does right, and I am loving spending time with it everyday.

What I really miss from 11 was having to do 100% of your aiming from the tee. The zoom just shows you what kind of surface you are hitting to. There is no clicking down through clubs to see the exact difference and where they in relation to bunkers and other hazards. You can play it a hell of a lot closer when you have pinpoint arrow to aim with in stead of "just to the right of that tall tree."