Tiger Woods 13 PGA TOUR and CE Info
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One thing I'd like to add after getting my left stick woes cured with my forth and last controller, the chip shots in this game are definitely more realistic. I've found though that if I select the standard set for a chip shot, it looks and behaves more like a pitch shot, but if I move the ball forward in my stance, and go with a little less lofted club than that to which it defaults, I can produce a shot that looks and performs more like a chip. The animation isn't doesn't exactly look like what I would call a traditional chip shot, but it'll do. The trajectory and roll are closer to the real thing, and that's what counts most to me.
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I don't see it and I tried to make one and it said I successfully did it but it's not showing up.J_Cauthen wrote: Does anyone see a "Daily" Tournament at Kiawah on the main page at the OCC site now?
As I said this is EA is this s*** worked out of the gate my jaw would hit the floor.
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Okay, well it's obviously a problem with the software and not user error on my part. Thanks for checking it out.Danimal wrote:I don't see it and I tried to make one and it said I successfully did it but it's not showing up.
This one will be an easy fix for them. Since the OCC is web based, they should be able to remedy most of its ailments in short order.I said this is EA is this s*** worked out of the gate my jaw would hit the floor.
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I tried to join...used the password and it says "club is not accepting joins at this time". WTF? Any idea Danimal?
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Nope I just went in and checked the settings, nothing has changed.
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I think they're still making changes to the software for the OCCs. People are having issues getting in through the PS3 ID's and I bet they're trying to resolve that. I now see nine members in the DSP clubhouse roster.Diablo25 wrote:I tried to join...used the password and it says "club is not accepting joins at this time". WTF? Any idea Danimal?
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Looks like its working now...I just got in.J_Cauthen wrote:I think they're still making changes to the software for the OCCs. People are having issues getting in through the PS3 ID's and I bet they're trying to resolve that. I now see nine members in the DSP clubhouse roster.Diablo25 wrote:I tried to join...used the password and it says "club is not accepting joins at this time". WTF? Any idea Danimal?

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Great! So that brings us up to 10 now? [EDIT: I just checked and we're at 11]Diablo25 wrote:Looks like its working now...I just got in.
Oh, the Daily Tournament window is still showing a blank screen Dan. I bet they'll get that fixed by tomorrow evening.
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I played the demo with the Kinect only and I must say that it's quite responsive even as you face the TV screen. Some minor delays when you try to aim your shot during putting and try to adjust your reading to the greens, where you have to reach out and then close your hand. Other than that, pretty responsive overall.
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WOW... color me VERY UNIMPRESSED by this demo. I thought the swing change would be great but it really doesn't feel any different then the swings of old. On the back swing I will have the left stick already at the bottom but yet the swing animation might only be half way done. On tournament settings I was NEVER able to get a normal back swing. It was always slow. Trying to hit draw or fades was also very difficult to achieve. In fact I don't think there is any need to play those shots because you can go at the pin pretty easily.
Putting. Now this is a complete joke. The putting was better about 2-3 years ago (the year they first implemented a pseudo Links putting system). The devs want to say that this requires more "feel" but IMO just doesn't "feel" right at all. Bring back the Links putting system. The other thing is reading greens. Without use of a grid I couldn't even guesstimate a large breaking putt from a slightly breaking putt. I know I keep saying Links but if they had the grid preview from Links that tracked from your ball to the cup and then reversed it would at least give you some idea of the break. The other option would be to have a view (FPS) where you were "squatting" behind your ball to give you a better lay of the slope.
I really have nothing positive from this demo. I will give it more of a go tomorrow but as of right now there is NO CHANCE I would consider getting this.
Putting. Now this is a complete joke. The putting was better about 2-3 years ago (the year they first implemented a pseudo Links putting system). The devs want to say that this requires more "feel" but IMO just doesn't "feel" right at all. Bring back the Links putting system. The other thing is reading greens. Without use of a grid I couldn't even guesstimate a large breaking putt from a slightly breaking putt. I know I keep saying Links but if they had the grid preview from Links that tracked from your ball to the cup and then reversed it would at least give you some idea of the break. The other option would be to have a view (FPS) where you were "squatting" behind your ball to give you a better lay of the slope.
I really have nothing positive from this demo. I will give it more of a go tomorrow but as of right now there is NO CHANCE I would consider getting this.

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Are you able to get a full backswing? It almost sounds like you might be experiencing what I was seeing. I couldn't get more than a 70% backswing with the left stick of any of the first three controllers I tried. I finally switched to the right stick on the third controller, and it delivered a full backswing. My fourth and newest controller finally had a left thumbstick that would give the full range of motion the game is looking for on the backswing. It made a big difference in the way the game played for me.orthostud23 wrote:WOW... color me VERY UNIMPRESSED by this demo. I thought the swing change would be great but it really doesn't feel any different then the swings of old. On the back swing I will have the left stick already at the bottom but yet the swing animation might only be half way done.
I'm not too pleased with the putting myself. It's like the rebirth of the Classic Putting interface in analog form. It requires tempo, but only within its limited sphere of range for the "targeted" putt length. You brought up a component of putting that has been stripped from this game with this new approach - lag putting is indeed a lost art in this game.Putting. Now this is a complete joke. The putting was better about 2-3 years ago (the year they first implemented a pseudo Links putting system). The devs want to say that this requires more "feel" but IMO just doesn't "feel" right at all.
I'm more upbeat about it tonight, having found a controller that will deliver performance needed by the game, but that won't cure what's missing in the putting game. Tiger 13's analog 'Classic Putting' requires more finesse than the plot & toggle Classic Putting of Tiger 06 - 09, but it does require me to dismiss my proportional physics that worked from the tee until I got to the green in the rest of the game.I really have nothing positive from this demo. I will give it more of a go tomorrow but as of right now there is NO CHANCE I would consider getting this.
I did play the Move version tonight on my PS3 and I was surprised at how much better it is than last year's. It was sweet to use that first person view for putting on the green, but more importantly, to put what felt like a 30 foot putting stroke on a 30 foot putt! I love that first person camera perspective though... awesome!
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Did it feel proportional to you, especially when putting? After experiencing the Move version with the Tiger 13 demo tonight, the motion controllers might be the answer to the targeting-cursor/range-restricted putting game that leaves me a little flat with the wireless controller.10spro wrote:I played the demo with the Kinect only and I must say that it's quite responsive even as you face the TV screen. Some minor delays when you try to aim your shot during putting and try to adjust your reading to the greens, where you have to reach out and then close your hand. Other than that, pretty responsive overall.
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Ugh!
After playing the demo with Kinect I will stick to the sub-standard graphic but sublime gameplay of the Wii.
The interface stinks. Aiming stinks. It would take me an hour plus to slug through 18. Not fun.
Ball physics seem off and while everything looks great, it doesn't seem as realistic as the Wii version.
I hope all of you find some fun with it but this is a BIG pass for me.
After playing the demo with Kinect I will stick to the sub-standard graphic but sublime gameplay of the Wii.
The interface stinks. Aiming stinks. It would take me an hour plus to slug through 18. Not fun.
Ball physics seem off and while everything looks great, it doesn't seem as realistic as the Wii version.
I hope all of you find some fun with it but this is a BIG pass for me.
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Proportional, nope. If anything putting is the weakness so far in this demo, it took me awhile to get used to it in TW12 and now it seems a bit more challenging as this demo seems to be geared more towards how you set up the putt but to aim shot is not as easy as it appears. I just don't get the putting meter, the feel is just not there for some reason. Again, this is all on the Kinect play and unfortunately I won't have time to play the demo with the controller for another 4 days due to travel.J_Cauthen wrote:Did it feel proportional to you, especially when putting? After experiencing the Move version with the Tiger 13 demo tonight, the motion controllers might be the answer to the targeting-cursor/range-restricted putting game that leaves me a little flat with the wireless controller.10spro wrote:I played the demo with the Kinect only and I must say that it's quite responsive even as you face the TV screen. Some minor delays when you try to aim your shot during putting and try to adjust your reading to the greens, where you have to reach out and then close your hand. Other than that, pretty responsive overall.
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Wow...this game is so much deeper than 12. I'm so stoked for this thing to actually come out after playing the demo. Normally demo's do nothing for me, but this one definitely grabs me. I love the new swing mechanic.
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This is one schitzophrenic impressions thread...sheesh.
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JCAUTHEN: I will try switching sticks to swing with and I will also try my wired controller to see what happens. The on screen info that I looking at shows the golfer taking his club all the way back and into the overswing area. We will see how it goes tonight.
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Ain't that the truth!Teal wrote:This is one schitzophrenic impressions thread...sheesh.

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Yep, and it's not exclusive to DSP's forum; every forum I visit where this game is being discussed is this way. I'm currently fairly satisfied with the game from the tee until I get to the green. The abandonment of the Precision Putting interface is a real letdown for me. I enjoyed purely using my senses to gauge the putt strength. You are forced to used a distance scaling tool now, which will keep you within a prescribed range. You still have maintain a proper tempo to have the putt roll like you're expecting, but it's negating an input component - "touch" - that made me feel much more involved in the process.Teal wrote:This is one schitzophrenic impressions thread...sheesh.
I can live with what we've got, but I don't have a choice really. This is the only semi-realistic golf game one can buy on the 360. It could be worse though, we could have the multiple range putting system of pre Tiger Woods 10 games, which allowed to to dial in your putt and pull the trigger. At least now we do have an operating range in which we have to use some degree of feel.
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It is worth a shot. I've now read four reports from people who seem to be having the limited control range problems I was having with the left thumbsticks on my three oldest controllers.orthostud23 wrote:JCAUTHEN: I will try switching sticks to swing with and I will also try my wired controller to see what happens. The on screen info that I looking at shows the golfer taking his club all the way back and into the overswing area. We will see how it goes tonight.
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I agree with John. Play to the green is excellent. The putting system sucks, for the meter and its lack of precision.
I'm not a golfer, but I have golfed -- if that makes sense. My father also tried to teach me as a teen, so I have a sense of the tempo of a putting stroke. The putting meter in TW 13 slides back so quickly that your sole focus is to stop the stick before it exceeds the recommended strength. You're never really thinking about a smooth backswing or follow-through like you are with the other clubs in your bag.
I'm not a golfer, but I have golfed -- if that makes sense. My father also tried to teach me as a teen, so I have a sense of the tempo of a putting stroke. The putting meter in TW 13 slides back so quickly that your sole focus is to stop the stick before it exceeds the recommended strength. You're never really thinking about a smooth backswing or follow-through like you are with the other clubs in your bag.
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Paul, I know you're a relative newcomer to the XBox 360. Have you tried the demo of Tiger 11 or 12? If not, I encourage you to download one of the two demos, set the difficulty to Tournament, and experience for yourself what meterless, precision putting felt like. It was a long learning curve, but it felt so rewarding when you started getting the feel of it.pk500 wrote:I agree with John. Play to the green is excellent. The putting system sucks, for the meter and its lack of precision.
If they would simply put the Precision Putting interface back in as an option, I would be much happier with this year's game. I'm surprised that they didn't do that...
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Thanks for the tip, John!
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I really liked it last night. The putting doesn't bother me since putting is a lot about feel and it is hard to replicate that in a video game. The swing on tournament is super hard and I like that.
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Why on earth would he go and try the better system so that he can be MORE pissed at the new one? LOL.