Awful offensive playcalling by the Bears. I agree with everything Rob said. Look at what the Falcons did last night -- the Eagles were teeing off on the pass, so Atlanta still kept the run going even when they weren't getting much yardage, and then they turn the game around on Turner's big run. Martz's solution is to try and block six pass rushers with five guys.
Speaking of the Eagles game, did anyone else see shades of Madden on Vick's first TD to Maclin? Vick backpedaled about 10-12 yards and threw off his back foot to Maclin, who made a one-handed catch for the TD. The NFL really needs to patch that next year.
Brando70 wrote:Awful offensive play calling by the Bears. I agree with everything Rob said. Look at what the Falcons did last night -- the Eagles were teeing off on the pass, so Atlanta still kept the run going even when they weren't getting much yardage, and then they turn the game around on Turner's big run. Martz's solution is to try and block six pass rushers with five guys.
Honestly the game was 16-13 at one point right? The Bears had a defensive laps in their crappy secondary (I know I'm cold hearted but I hope Major Wright is out for the year) or else they have the lead. Then they keep dropping back and dropping back I was like this is f***in ridiculous. Keep Brees off the field you can't compete in a shootout with no weapons.
As Bears fans we get unlucky, they have some breaks and go to the title game and we are stuck with this cast of mis-fit ex-head coaches on our squad. It's going to be a game by game thing for this group. I can see them being 3-1 and I can easily see them being 1-3 after 4 weeks. Personally as much as I hate that dick was Newton he could shred their bunch of losers in the secondary apart.
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Gabe Carimi out with a dislocated knee for the Bears. That means Frank Omgwouldyoufuckingblock will be starting against the Pack. Bears fans, show your spirit by coming out to the game in your official Bears Jay Cutler bodybags!
Brando70 wrote:Gabe Carimi out with a dislocated knee for the Bears. That means Frank Omgwouldyoufuckingblock will be starting against the Pack. Bears fans, show your spirit by coming out to the game in your official Bears Jay Cutler bodybags!
I lovingly refer to him as Frank Turnstyale.
I am a patient boy.
I wait, I wait, I wait, I wait.
My time is water down a drain.
I'm wondering when Stephen Ross is going to pull the plug on the current Miami regime? The entire freaking secondary have hamstring probems including Will Allen. It's sad what a joke the Dolphins have become. Here's how Jeff Ireland operates. Lose a player, call Dallas for their rejects.
I don't think Bill Cowher and especially Chucky are the answer maybe Jeff Fisher but man this team has been cursed since they fired Don Shula.
Huge win for them. I got Fitzy on 2 of my fantasy teams too!
As for my Eagles... Pathetic job today.
I still can't believe Reid went for it on the fourth down. The Eagles couldn't score on 3 attempts from 6 inches, what made him think they could get it on 4th and 2? They had the lead and the Giants hadn't driven the length of the field all game, why risk giving them short field? The Eagles promptly collapsed after that point.
Huge win for them. I got Fitzy on 2 of my fantasy teams too!
As for my Eagles... Pathetic job today.
I still can't believe Reid went for it on the fourth down. The Eagles couldn't score on 3 attempts from 6 inches, what made him think they could get it on 4th and 2? They had the lead and the Giants hadn't driven the length of the field all game, why risk giving them short field? The Eagles promptly collapsed after that point.
Stupid.
Couldn't have said it better myself. I was floored when they went for it.
I was watching that Eagles game when that happened and I was absolutely flabbergasted. Bizarre playcalling and choice to go for it.
The Bears game was about what I expected, but the amazing punt fake-out at the end of the game was sublime. Just a brilliant play design by the only coordinator on that staff who knows what the hell he's doing.
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RobVarak wrote:The Bears game was about what I expected, but the amazing punt fake-out at the end of the game was sublime. Just a brilliant play design by the only coordinator on that staff who knows what the hell he's doing.
That was a great play. Was there actually a hold on that play? It looked like a phantom call.
Awful performance by the Bears. The offense looked like it hadn't practiced all week. Martz would be more useful being melted down for lamp oil.
Rodster wrote:The Dolphins suck, time to blow up the team from top to bottom and start over.
I can't believe anybody would hire Brian Daboll and his "Prevent Offense". How that game went for the Dolphins yesterday, Browns fans know that pattern well... get the lead early... play conservative the rest of the way, especially in the red zone, settling for field goals all afternoon... then lose the game in the fourth quarter. The Browns led the league last year in losing games that they led in the fourth quarter with Daboll as our OC.
I feel so bad for Michael Vick. He's complaing about getting hit after the play's dead...but he's "not complaining".
Hey Mike...how about the dog's that you slammed against the ground until THEY were dead? There was no whistle
blown then either. At least you get to live to play another game. F-off!
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JackB1 wrote:I feel so bad for Michael Vick. He's complaing about getting hit after the play's dead...but he's "not complaining".
Hey Mike...how about the dog's that you slammed against the ground? They never had a chance to complain.
At least you get to live to play another game. F-off!
I was utterly floored by how thoroughly the Raiders handled the Jets defense yesterday. Once the Oakland defense got in on the act and figured out how to penetrate the Jets OL (sacked Sanchez 3 times in the 3rd quarter as they started exploiting whatever they found on the right side of the OL), it turned into a romp. This team would have imploded down 17-7 in years past, but watching McFadden put up 171 (and Oakland getting 234 rushing as a team) was amazing.
That wasn't some scrub D out there...and that loss to the Bills last week doesn't seem as bad with the Patriots doing the same thing yesterday
Rodster wrote:The Dolphins suck, time to blow up the team from top to bottom and start over.
I can't believe anybody would hire Brian Daboll and his "Prevent Offense". How that game went for the Dolphins yesterday, Browns fans know that pattern well... get the lead early... play conservative the rest of the way, especially in the red zone, settling for field goals all afternoon... then lose the game in the fourth quarter. The Browns led the league last year in losing games that they led in the fourth quarter with Daboll as our OC.
Trust me...the offense is light years better (at least from the Dolphins 20 to the opponent 20) than it was last year...so no complaints really from an Offensive Coordinator standpoint (though he doesn't seem all that great regardless). The problem is Henne. It's always been Henne. He is one of those stats only QBs (and even his stats aren't that good). Sure, he's thrown for 300+ each game, but when it counts, in crunch time (or in the red zone), he turns into a giant vagina. He's afraid to make the throws when it counts. That's why 9 times out of 10 throws in crunch time are check downs. That hasn't changed at all in the two plus years he's been in Miami. That will never change. It was my same complaint last year and it's going to continue until they get a QB with some stones.
TCrouch wrote:
I was utterly floored by how thoroughly the Raiders handled the Jets defense yesterday. Once the Oakland defense got in on the act and figured out how to penetrate the Jets OL (sacked Sanchez 3 times in the 3rd quarter as they started exploiting whatever they found on the right side of the OL), it turned into a romp. This team would have imploded down 17-7 in years past, but watching McFadden put up 171 (and Oakland getting 234 rushing as a team) was amazing.
That wasn't some scrub D out there...and that loss to the Bills last week doesn't seem as bad with the Patriots doing the same thing yesterday
McFadden is a beast! His speed and size is just scary. I thought Oakland played very well yesterday and the Jet's were just a little off for whatever reason.
Oakland seemed to get most of the breaks in the 2nd half as well. I also think having their All Pro Center out on injury hurt a lot. The Jets also had Cromarty
out most of the 2nd half with injury. But in the end, they were definitley outplayed by the Raiders. I still have faith that the Jets will be going pretty far this year.
Cromartie didn't leave until late in the 3rd when he fumbled that kickoff return--like the last play of the third quarter, or close to it.
But Oakland lost Chris Johnson (their starting corner) in the first quarter--and Huff in the first half as well. They pretty much lost half of their secondary and had to line a rookie up against Plaxico Burress all day long. Injuries happen. The biggest one was Mangold, by far. But they held up pretty well at the center. For whatever reason, it was the right tackle that kept getting abused in the second half.
Brando70 wrote:
That was a great play. Was there actually a hold on that play? It looked like a phantom call.
Awful performance by the Bears. The offense looked like it hadn't practiced all week. Martz would be more useful being melted down for lamp oil.
Completely bizarre flag. The player they identified never even made contact with a Packer.
At this point, it's clear that Angelo hasn't the foggiest idea of how to put an offensive football team together. Nobody starting on the OL or in the WR/TE corp would be anything but a tertiary player on a real team. Cutler and Forte are the only useful parts, and they're being stuck in a system that was discredited 10 years ago and which is useless without WR's who are smart enough to site-read and good enough to run precise patterns.
I'd actually probably keep Lovie, but s***-can Angelo and Martz right now. Bring in an OC who can build a system suited to Cutler's talents and a GM who doesn't think that all offensive linemen are created equal. If they don't, they're going to have to do it in a year or two, when the defense is even older and the Lions and Packers even better.
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Rodster wrote:The Dolphins suck, time to blow up the team from top to bottom and start over.
I can't believe anybody would hire Brian Daboll and his "Prevent Offense". How that game went for the Dolphins yesterday, Browns fans know that pattern well... get the lead early... play conservative the rest of the way, especially in the red zone, settling for field goals all afternoon... then lose the game in the fourth quarter. The Browns led the league last year in losing games that they led in the fourth quarter with Daboll as our OC.
Trust me...the offense is light years better (at least from the Dolphins 20 to the opponent 20) than it was last year...so no complaints really from an Offensive Coordinator standpoint (though he doesn't seem all that great regardless). The problem is Henne. It's always been Henne. He is one of those stats only QBs (and even his stats aren't that good). Sure, he's thrown for 300+ each game, but when it counts, in crunch time (or in the red zone), he turns into a giant vagina. He's afraid to make the throws when it counts. That's why 9 times out of 10 throws in crunch time are check downs. That hasn't changed at all in the two plus years he's been in Miami. That will never change. It was my same complaint last year and it's going to continue until they get a QB with some stones.
The problem with the Dolphins as was stated yesterday on TV and I agree with is there aren't really a lot of playmakers on both sides of the ball and this current team is not built to compete in the AFC East.
Brandon Marshall is disappointing and reminds me of Keyshawn just a little faster. His route running has been average. I've seen Henne throw the ball and either he drops it or isn't near the ball. I think it was in the NE game where Henne went for the corner of the endzone, Marshall started in that direction and cutback towards the middle for an incomplete pass.
On offense you can't count on Bush to be a featured back. I also think he's not utilized correctly, he needs to be in the slot or in open space to cause damage with his speed. On defense other than JT and Dansby the defense sucks. I'm not as down on Henne as DB as I think Henne has played much better and has opened it up. The receiving corps is average at best. I think the offensive play calling has been much improved except we don't have the players to match.
What concerns me the most is what was written in the Miami Herald today. Armando Salguero is accusing the owner of quitting on the team and wants them to lose so as to have a shot at Andrew Luck next year and is willing to use Sparano and Ireland as scapegoats. I personally like Sparano and hope he's not fired but the new owner has NO clue on how to run an NFL team. Maybe Jim Harbaugh sensed that when he turned down mega money to go with the 49ers.
Pathetic job today.
