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backbreaker wrote: I like the sound of 3D. I will be picking up mine right before the Superbowl. I looking at 46 to 55 inches LED edge and back lit(full array). Looks like they put their foot into this one and I'm on board.
Brandsmart USA had a 60 inch 3D-ready Mitsubishi (with good reviews) on sale on Black Friday for $499, and I'm kicking myself for not getting it even though I don't really need a new TV. I'm going to watch its price around the Super Bowl and am going to be really tempted to pull the trigger sometime before March 8. Playing HR derby in 3D with the Move could be a LOT of fun, even though I'm sure I'll look like a huge dork.

I wonder with the Move whether I'll be able to take practice swings, where it would be 1:1, which would be really pretty cool.
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backbreaker wrote: I like the sound of 3D. I will be picking up mine right before the Superbowl. I looking at 46 to 55 inches LED edge and back lit(full array). Looks like they put their foot into this one and I'm on board.
Brandsmart USA had a 60 inch 3D-ready Mitsubishi (with good reviews) on sale on Black Friday for $499, and I'm kicking myself for not getting it even though I don't really need a new TV. I'm going to watch its price around the Super Bowl and am going to be really tempted to pull the trigger sometime before March 8. Playing HR derby in 3D with the Move could be a LOT of fun, even though I'm sure I'll look like a huge dork.

I wonder with the Move whether I'll be able to take practice swings, where it would be 1:1, which would be really pretty cool.
The Mitsubishi TV you saw was most likely a DLP TV. I have a similar one by Samsung that can also do 3D. These TVs were made before there was a 3D standard so it's not exactly "built in" like the current TVs have. You have to get some kind of converter box that goes into a special input on the back of the TV. If you really want 3D you should buy one of the current models, not these older DLPs. I do love my Samsung but it has an LED bulb so it's better than the Mitsiubishis which still use the old style bulb. I also am not all that excited about 3D.
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I just don't know why anyone not needing a TV would pick up a 3D set right now. The technology is going to change so rapidly over the next 2-3 years that unless you have money to burn you're better off waiting. This coming from a guy who usually buys everything well ahead of time.

Now don't get me wrong when my DLP set goes and it will sometime in the next year I'll be first in line for a Samsung 3D set but I'm not going to just buy one for shits and giggles.
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Danimal wrote:I just don't know why anyone not needing a TV would pick up a 3D set right now. The technology is going to change so rapidly over the next 2-3 years that unless you have money to burn you're better off waiting. This coming from a guy who usually buys everything well ahead of time.

Now don't get me wrong when my DLP set goes and it will sometime in the next year I'll be first in line for a Samsung 3D set but I'm not going to just buy one for shits and giggles.
^^^ This

I refuse to buy into technology a) that will drastically change within a couple of years b) radically drop in price c) forces me to 3D wear glasses d) requires me to buy 3D glasses

I'll wait for the tech to morph into what Nintendo is doing with the 3DS that doesn't require glasses. So let's see I buy a game that's stale or spend $1500-2000 to make it feel fresh. No thanks i'll judge the game on it's own merits when it's released. If it still feels the same i'll pass and go for 2K11. If OTOH it has been improved to feel at least a little different then i'll buy it.
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Danimal wrote:I just don't know why anyone not needing a TV would pick up a 3D set right now. The technology is going to change so rapidly over the next 2-3 years that unless you have money to burn you're better off waiting. This coming from a guy who usually buys everything well ahead of time.

Now don't get me wrong when my DLP set goes and it will sometime in the next year I'll be first in line for a Samsung 3D set but I'm not going to just buy one for shits and giggles.
I think their is enough 3D entertainment coming this year and next year to warrant my purchase. Sony has a big list of games and movie studios have a large line up of movies. And besides I have several 3D games right now that I want to take advantage of and heard nothing but glowing things about them.

This is a measured decision I'm making and I will be purchasing a 2nd to 3rd generation 3D tv. So if the 3D content tapers off, I will still have a excellent HDTV.
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backbreaker wrote: I think their is enough 3D entertainment coming this year and next year to warrant my purchase. Sony has a big list of games and movie studios have a large line up of movies. And besides I have several 3D games right now that I want to take advantage of and heard nothing but glowing things about them.

This is a measured decision I'm making and I will be purchasing a 2nd to 3rd generation 3D tv. So if the 3D content tapers off, I will still have a excellent HDTV.
That's pretty much where I'm at. I've liked seeing 3D movies in the theater, and I'd love to play The Show, GT5, Motorstorm (when it's released) and some other games in 3D. People said the same thing about HDTVs a few years ago (i.e., they'd wait for the price to come down, new technology would come along that would make it obsolete, there weren't enough HD channels, etc.). Personally, I've gotten a ton of enjoyment out of HD and am awfully glad I didn't wait any longer than I did. To think I used to watch NFL and MLB games in standard def -- I'm guessing I'll feel similar after making the jump to 3D. To each his own, though.
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Danimal wrote:I just don't know why anyone not needing a TV would pick up a 3D set right now. The technology is going to change so rapidly over the next 2-3 years that unless you have money to burn you're better off waiting. This coming from a guy who usually buys everything well ahead of time.

Now don't get me wrong when my DLP set goes and it will sometime in the next year I'll be first in line for a Samsung 3D set but I'm not going to just buy one for shits and giggles.
^^^ This

I refuse to buy into technology a) that will drastically change within a couple of years b) radically drop in price c) forces me to 3D wear glasses d) requires me to buy 3D glasses

I'll wait for the tech to morph into what Nintendo is doing with the 3DS that doesn't require glasses. So let's see I buy a game that's stale or spend $1500-2000 to make it feel fresh. No thanks i'll judge the game on it's own merits when it's released. If it still feels the same i'll pass and go for 2K11. If OTOH it has been improved to feel at least a little different then i'll buy it.
with the changes to analog control, believe you will be ok Rod. When had posted earlier, didn't know they were completely changing the controls, in addition to the PS3 move option.
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Isn't Panasonic working on a 3D set not requiring glasses. I thought I saw them demo'ing it earlier this year.

3D sets requiring glasses will be arcane in a year or two.
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vinny-b wrote:with the changes to analog control, believe you will be ok Rod. When had posted earlier, didn't know they were completely changing the controls, in addition to the PS3 move option.
I'll be sure to check out the demo and make my decision then.
JRod wrote:Isn't Panasonic working on a 3D set not requiring glasses. I thought I saw them demo'ing it earlier this year.

3D sets requiring glasses will be arcane in a year or two.
I've read there are several companies working on 3D sets without the need for 3D glasses. But someone correct me if i'm wrong, don't the consoles need to be aware of a 3D set without the need for glasses? In any event a 3DTV without the need for glasses is when i'll buy one.
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3D is neat, but annoying. Heck, I'm done with 3D films. It was fun when this resurgence started, but they have turned into annoying crap pretty quickly. The fact that Sony and others have a lot coming out says nothing to me. Before I drop some coin on a new TV, I will not only need to see how well done it actually is, but for how long I can expect myself to really care.

Needing glasses is annoying enough. The prices I have seen on them is even more out of whack. Also, I wear glasses. 3D glasses over those is annoying enough for 90 minutes in a theater. But wear them at home, too?

The best part is, if I'm wrong, and it lasts, I will get in for way less, and with a much more likelihood of using the tech that will stick.
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I wear glasses too and within 15 minutes they were really annoying. Honestly I really wasn't all that impressed with 3DTV. I watched a few 3D demos at Best Buy and I thought meh. It wasn't until they demoed a National Geographic video that I was impressed.
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The Standard for 3D is universal, just like the consortium of Blu Ray companies that banded together for Blu Ray, the same goes for 3D. Stereoscopic 3D is the standard, the only thing that will change probably 4 years from now if they can make it cheaper is the from glasses to no glasses.

I can't find the article right now but 3d gaming with 3D glasses offer some huge benefits that non glasses doesn't and one of the big things are full screen co op i.e. playing COD co op with stereoscopic 3D glasses with 2 people will be like playing on your own screen, their is also the whole augment reality angles as well.

Glasses have their place in this mess and just like the majority of you I can't wait til 3D become glass less. So all I will do is buy that new 3d tv and move the other 2 the bed room.
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They're going to get criticized if they're not constantly adding new features and content, like they are being here.

But OTOH, they seem to be going year after year without producing a reliable online game. Is this indicative of how they approach other bugs, just let them linger year after year?
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GTHobbes wrote:
People said the same thing about HDTVs a few years ago (i.e., they'd wait for the price to come down, new technology would come along that would make it obsolete, there weren't enough HD channels, etc.).
Well the fact is HD price did drop significantly, the technology also changed quite a bit and until the last 2 years or so HD channels were minimal. People forget less then 5 years ago you needed an antenna to get HD channels and look where we are now. Actually you pretty much proved my point for me, so thanks.

Also no one said anything about 3D being obsolete, just that 3D technology is rapidly changing. I wouldn't be surprise within 5 years you'll get 3D without glasses.

Now with all that said if I were buying a TV I would get a 3D one, but I don't see the value in getting one now just because. I think most 3D movies suck, and I don't see the appeal from a gaming standpoint. Perhaps once I try it that will change.

So to be clear I am not pooping on anyone's parade. I mean I am the guy who got a top of the line 7.1 sound system in my theater room 3 years ago and too date have gotten exactly 2 Blu-Rays that had native 7.1 support. So if you're in the mood to buy it be my guest, I just don't see the value in picking up a 3D set if you don't need a new TV at this point, for me anyway.
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wco81 wrote:They're going to get criticized if they're not constantly adding new features and content, like they are being here.

But OTOH, they seem to be going year after year without producing a reliable online game. Is this indicative of how they approach other bugs, just let them linger year after year?
Honestly, baseball is the toughest game of any sport to do online. MLB 2K9 is the only game I have ever actually enjoyed playing online. The work it takes to get the lag down so that a batter can take balls and swing at strikes is insanely tough. There may have been games you could play online before, but they all sucked. All of them.

And 2K lost whatever magic they had with 2K10. becasue it went back to being too laggy to enjoy.

It would be nice if SCEA nailed online play, but it sure isn't something I can hold against them, since no one else can really do it either. And with 2K9, it was still hit or miss depending on some people's connection.
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Well I was wrong it won't take 2-3 years to get 3D TV without glasses it will be much sooner.

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That's great news but it will be at least 3-4 years where they are in the $600-900 price range. That's the time i'll go 3D. I'll let the early adopters blow their cash. :)
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I'm not even sure if glasses-free parallax 3D will ever catch on, it just doesn't work in a livingroom setup because you still need to view images from certain angles and I assume you can't move your head too much or you'll miss the whole 3D effect.
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Just saw Apple dropped a patent for 3D non-glasses TV. Really looks like we'll see a 3D glasses free TV on the mass-market with 3 years.

Oh a baseball note, with football nearing the end of the season -- the Broncos are toast except to watch Tebow. It's going to be a boring few months until pitches catchers report.

Can't wait for MLB 11.
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Gamespot just posted this video. Ok how many new announcers do you hear? I heard Jon Miller and someone else but Matt wasn't in the video.

http://www.gamespot.com/ps3/sports/mlb1 ... Btitle%3B2
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Rodster wrote:Gamespot just posted this video. Ok how many new announcers do you hear? I heard Jon Miller and someone else but Matt wasn't in the video.

http://www.gamespot.com/ps3/sports/mlb1 ... Btitle%3B2
not a bad video.

far as the subject of your post (RE: Announcers), i take it SCEA is borrowing 2010 TV audio. As the announcing in the previous trailers (Texas Rangers etc) leads me to believe the same.

maybe i'm wrong. ?
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vinny-b wrote:
Rodster wrote:Gamespot just posted this video. Ok how many new announcers do you hear? I heard Jon Miller and someone else but Matt wasn't in the video.

http://www.gamespot.com/ps3/sports/mlb1 ... Btitle%3B2
not a bad video.

far as the subject of your post (RE: Announcers), i take it SCEA is borrowing 2010 TV audio. As the announcing in the previous trailers (Texas Rangers etc) leads me to believe the same.

maybe i'm wrong. ?
That makes sense.
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I swore I heard Joe Buck in a video I watched recently. Is he part of the game?
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Danimal wrote:I swore I heard Joe Buck in a video I watched recently. Is he part of the game?
Same crew is back this year,except Eric Karros replaces Rex Hudler. Analog (i.e. right stick) hitting,pitching ,and fielding are the new developments this year. There's 3 separate threads with about 9 million posts :wink: on this at OS.
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Nice trailer, but who gives a rats behind? After years and years of watching trailers from umpteen sports games, is it still necessary to see more than a couple game trailers for one particular title? I guess I have soured on them a long time ago.
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