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Steelers will win by 10, for these reasons:

1. Steelers' defense is better. No defense should allow Caleb Hanie to come cold off the bench -- CALEB HANIE, people! -- and hang 14 points on them in one half. Plus the Steelers allowed just 70 yards rushing to the Jets. The Packers might tickle triple digits in rushing against the Steelers, but not much more.

2. Steelers have a legitimate running game. Mendenhall vs. Starks? Mendenhall and the Steelers' O line, all day. The Steelers can ground and pound probably better than any team in the NFL. That will keep the ball out of Rodgers' hands and wear out the Packers' defense. The Steelers' opening drive yesterday against the Jets was masterful and a blueprint for Feb. 6.

3. Steelers have been there. The core of this Steelers' team won the Super Bowl two years ago. Most of the Packers haven't been there. The Steelers know how to prepare for this game. The Packers think they know how to prepare for this game. That's a big difference.

Steelers 27, Packers 17
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Jack-diggity wrote:Jets are getting wasted. Damn. Looks like my pop and I will finally see our favorite teams play each other in the Super bowl. Let the 2 weeks smack talking begin. :D
Would be hard for me to smack talk about the Packers as they are my favorite team in the NFC. I think the majority of Steeler fans have a like and respect for Green Bay as they are a very similar team to us with loyal fans that are very knowlegeable. Win or lose, looking forward to a great Super Bowl.
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pk500 wrote:Steelers will win by 10, for these reasons:

1. Steelers' defense is better. No defense should allow Caleb Hanie to come cold off the bench -- CALEB HANIE, people! -- and hang 14 points on them in one half. Plus the Steelers allowed just 70 yards rushing to the Jets. The Packers might tickle triple digits in rushing against the Steelers, but not much more.

2. Steelers have a legitimate running game. Mendenhall vs. Starks? Mendenhall and the Steelers' O line, all day. The Steelers can ground and pound probably better than any team in the NFL. That will keep the ball out of Rodgers' hands and wear out the Packers' defense. The Steelers' opening drive yesterday against the Jets was masterful and a blueprint for Feb. 6.

3. Steelers have been there. The core of this Steelers' team won the Super Bowl two years ago. Most of the Packers haven't been there. The Steelers know how to prepare for this game. The Packers think they know how to prepare for this game. That's a big difference.

Steelers 27, Packers 17
Hard to argue with any of that. I was very impressed with their run defense against the Jets. They also had great ball posession drives and that will aid in keeping the ball out of Rodger's hands. I just think Pitt's win quality has been higher than that of GB's.
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I was at the Bears game yesterday, and everyone in the stands wondered why Todd Collins was in the game. After the Carolina game, there was no question Hanie should have been the second-string QB. The Bears basically pissed away two series playing the old man instead of the kid.

It was a frustrating loss because I felt like the Bears could have won the game with better execution and especially coaching. The defense played well but basically spotted the Packers seven points by playing very soft on the opening drive. Hester had a sure TD in the first if he hadn't broken off his route. Cutler missed Knox for another TD. And then there was Lovie's awful, awful timeout at the end, which killed what looked like a running play that was going to go for a big gain.

As for Cutler, I find it hard to question his toughness when I've seen him get absolutely destroyed all season and usually bounce back up. He's taken probably more hard hits than any QB in the league this year and still played except when he had a concussion. Being able to stand on your feet and being able to plant and throw are two very different things that the Grabowski armchair physicians of the world don't understand. He certainly could have handled being removed from the game better, but at the same time, I think if he felt he could have played, he would have.

Here's hoping the Steelers absolutely brutalize the Packers.
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Thing I recall when Cutler was drafted was how tough he was, playing at a weak college, taking a lot of punishment.

He's taken a lot of hits this year too.

On Sanchez, the question is about his arm strength, particularly in late season games in the NE with strong winds making it tough to hit certain outside routes. It is his second year but team has him on a tight leash, not letting him make a lot of presnap adjustments -- same was noted about Flacco too.

But Jets seem bullish on him, from the moment they moved up to draft him. They've been winning since he came on, but he's had some awful games.
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Spooky wrote:Did you booger fanatics not catch this...?

:lol:

The humping and the booger were both great.
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Brando70 wrote:I was at the Bears game yesterday, and everyone in the stands wondered why Todd Collins was in the game. After the Carolina game, there was no question Hanie should have been the second-string QB. The Bears basically pissed away two series playing the old man instead of the kid.

It was a frustrating loss because I felt like the Bears could have won the game with better execution and especially coaching. The defense played well but basically spotted the Packers seven points by playing very soft on the opening drive. Hester had a sure TD in the first if he hadn't broken off his route. Cutler missed Knox for another TD. And then there was Lovie's awful, awful timeout at the end, which killed what looked like a running play that was going to go for a big gain.

As for Cutler, I find it hard to question his toughness when I've seen him get absolutely destroyed all season and usually bounce back up. He's taken probably more hard hits than any QB in the league this year and still played except when he had a concussion. Being able to stand on your feet and being able to plant and throw are two very different things that the Grabowski armchair physicians of the world don't understand. He certainly could have handled being removed from the game better, but at the same time, I think if he felt he could have played, he would have.

Here's hoping the Steelers absolutely brutalize the Packers.
I agree with most of that.

Collins was a total waste of time.
The defense got into Rogers head. He looked like Cutler in the second half.
Lovies TO was brutal.
Cutlers over throws were killers and yeah all those beatings he took do take a toll. I dont care or know about toughness but he was plain bad.

What was the feeling in the crowd when Martz wasted that 3rd down play on that reverse sweep? I was pretty unhappy with it. :evil:
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Steelers 7,547 Packers 20 :P

Cause I picked em to win it before the playoffs began and cause I wanted to see the Bears play em.
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wco81 wrote: On Sanchez, the question is about his arm strength, particularly in late season games in the NE with strong winds making it tough to hit certain outside routes. It is his second year but team has him on a tight leash, not letting him make a lot of presnap adjustments -- same was noted about Flacco too.

But Jets seem bullish on him, from the moment they moved up to draft him. They've been winning since he came on, but he's had some awful games.
If you watched the game yesterday, you would have seen his arm strength is more than adequate. He zipped some passes into very tight quarters with plenty of velocity on the ball.
Compared to Atlanta's Matt Ryan, Sanchez has a cannon. IMO, arm strength is a non issue with Sanchez.
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XXXIV wrote:I agree with most of that.

Collins was a total waste of time.
The defense got into Rogers head. He looked like Cutler in the second half.
Lovies TO was brutal.
Cutlers over throws were killers and yeah all those beatings he took do take a toll. I dont care or know about toughness but he was plain bad.

What was the feeling in the crowd when Martz wasted that 3rd down play on that sweep? I was pretty unhappy with it. :evil:
People were furious about the end-around. My seats were in the endzone where the Bears were driving, so I had a good view of both the play negated by the time out (which looked like it was going to easily get more than the 2 yards the Bears needed for the first) and of the end-around, which was just plain stupid.

The funny thing is, if you told me at the start of the season the Bears would go 11-5 and play in the NFC Championship, I would have taken that in a heartbeat. But seeing them get close only to come up short hurts. I will tip my hat to them for not quitting. The first half had all the makings of a Bears playoff blowout, but they hung in there and fought hard in the second half.
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What ifs? How about what if the Packers hadn't had 11 players on IR? Then maybe this game is a blowout. If Rodgers hadn't over and underthrown his receivers on a couple of plays. If the ball doesn't bouce off Driver foot and right into Briggs' stomach.

I think the Steelers are he toughest matchup the Pack will face all season. I would say the Steelers are the favorite, but we have a good shot at them. The dome will help the passing game, and that is what they will need in order to beat the Steelers. We haven't had a running game most of the year, so they're used to that. If they can pass on them like they did agaisnt the Falcons, they have a good shot at winning.
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matthewk wrote:The game can be summed up in 2 images. The first is the one with Cutler sitting next to Haine all bundled up and listening to his iPod.
I'm really astonished at how silly people are. He wasn't listening to an iPod he was connecting up to the play calls going in and using ear buds. I still don't think he was helping Hanie but lets not make s*** up.
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Danimal wrote:
matthewk wrote:The game can be summed up in 2 images. The first is the one with Cutler sitting next to Haine all bundled up and listening to his iPod.
I'm really astonished at how silly people are. He wasn't listening to an iPod he was connecting up to the play calls going in and using ear buds. I still don't think he was helping Hanie but lets not make s*** up.
I'm pretty sure he was joking. At least I hope he was. :roll:
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Funny thing was the Packer fans behind us. The guy had a waxed handlebar mustache and his wife looked she had just returned from a big game hunt. You can take the Packer fans out of Wisconsin but you can't take the Wisconsin out of the Packer fans. :D

I will never, ever, ever root for Green Bay to win a Super Bowl, but I am impressed with their team and think they will be the best in the NFC North for a while. Their defense is very good and Rodgers is arguably the best QB in the league, definitely in the top 3. I don't think any QB has his combination of arm strength, accuracy, and mobility. The drunken consensus on the party bus after the game was that he will have a career that eclipses Favre's, at least in accomplishments if not overall stats.
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matthewk wrote:What ifs? How about what if the Packers hadn't had 11 players on IR? Then maybe this game is a blowout. If Rodgers hadn't over and underthrown his receivers on a couple of plays. If the ball doesn't bouce off Driver foot and right into Briggs' stomach.

I think the Steelers are he toughest matchup the Pack will face all season. I would say the Steelers are the favorite, but we have a good shot at them. The dome will help the passing game, and that is what they will need in order to beat the Steelers. We haven't had a running game most of the year, so they're used to that. If they can pass on them like they did agaisnt the Falcons, they have a good shot at winning.
You've covered the Packers' offense. Even bigger question: Can the Packers' defense stop the combination of the Steelers' brutish running game and Roethlisberger's resourceful passing game?

I think not.
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Brando70 wrote:Funny thing was the Packer fans behind us. The guy had a waxed handlebar mustache and his wife looked she had just returned from a big game hunt. You can take the Packer fans out of Wisconsin but you can't take the Wisconsin out of the Packer fans. :D

I will never, ever, ever root for Green Bay to win a Super Bowl, but I am impressed with their team and think they will be the best in the NFC North for a while. Their defense is very good and Rodgers is arguably the best QB in the league, definitely in the top 3. I don't think any QB has his combination of arm strength, accuracy, and mobility. The drunken consensus on the party bus after the game was that he will have a career that eclipses Favre's, at least in accomplishments if not overall stats.
Does Rodgers own an iPhone, wandering eye and 4-inch penis? He'll need that to match Favre's accomplishments.

Is the rumor about Rodgers dating Erin Andrews true? If so, he's already eclipsed Favre, in my mind.
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I don't know or care if he's a tough guy or not, but I sure wouldn't want to be known in 10 years as the guy who's responsible for the saying, "he pulled a Cutler," the next time someone quits. Doubt that label will ever go away.
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dbdynsty25 wrote:
Danimal wrote:
matthewk wrote:The game can be summed up in 2 images. The first is the one with Cutler sitting next to Haine all bundled up and listening to his iPod.
I'm really astonished at how silly people are. He wasn't listening to an iPod he was connecting up to the play calls going in and using ear buds. I still don't think he was helping Hanie but lets not make s*** up.
I'm pretty sure he was joking. At least I hope he was. :roll:
I don't know I've heard more then a few people say he was listening to an iPod. If he was joking then my bad.

Also it appears my anger is not accurate.

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pk500 wrote:
matthewk wrote:What ifs? How about what if the Packers hadn't had 11 players on IR? Then maybe this game is a blowout. If Rodgers hadn't over and underthrown his receivers on a couple of plays. If the ball doesn't bouce off Driver foot and right into Briggs' stomach.

I think the Steelers are he toughest matchup the Pack will face all season. I would say the Steelers are the favorite, but we have a good shot at them. The dome will help the passing game, and that is what they will need in order to beat the Steelers. We haven't had a running game most of the year, so they're used to that. If they can pass on them like they did agaisnt the Falcons, they have a good shot at winning.
You've covered the Packers' offense. Even bigger question: Can the Packers' defense stop the combination of the Steelers' brutish running game and Roethlisberger's resourceful passing game?

I think not.
I disagree. Big surprise? :)
Mendenhall brutish??? I don't think so. He's fast but he's not Turner type powerful.

As far as stopping Big Ben. Look at the playoffs.
They beat Vick and McCoy in Philly.
They beat Turner and Ryan in ATL
They beat Forte and Cutler/Collins/No name guy in Chicago.
They also shut out the Jets in NY in the Regular season.

The Packers D has done a great job this season considering all the injuries.
Can they do it again in the Super bowl? I hope so. :)
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Danimal wrote:I don't know I've heard more then a few people say he was listening to an iPod. If he was joking then my bad.
I don't believe it was an iPod. It was likely the same feed he'd get from his helmet. But it was a fitting image of the game, and others were at least mentioning it looking like an iPod, like this one:

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ycn-7687272
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Danimal wrote:
matthewk wrote:The game can be summed up in 2 images. The first is the one with Cutler sitting next to Haine all bundled up and listening to his iPod.
I'm really astonished at how silly people are. He wasn't listening to an iPod he was connecting up to the play calls going in and using ear buds. I still don't think he was helping Hanie but lets not make s*** up.
THANK YOU!!!! For christs sake...that is driving me crazy!!!!! really people??? REALLY? Cranking tunes on the sideline? You think that is truly what was going on?!?! Ugh!
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pk500 wrote:You've covered the Packers' offense. Even bigger question: Can the Packers' defense stop the combination of the Steelers' brutish running game and Roethlisberger's resourceful passing game?

I think not.
I think that the Packers D can hold the Steelers offense to less points than the Packers offense can put up against the Steelers D. The Steelers had the #11 rushing game in the NFL, just 30 yards above teh Falcons (who they beat). Up a few hundred yards higher than that are the Eagles (who they beat). The Steelers have the better running game, but the Packers have the better passing game.

On defense I think the Steelers have more big names, but guys like Williams and Raji have really been stepping up recently. It looks like it will be a good game, and one that the Packers have a 50/50 chance of winning.
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GTHobbes wrote:I don't know or care if he's a tough guy or not, but I sure wouldn't want to be known in 10 years as the guy who's responsible for the saying, "he pulled a Cutler," the next time someone quits. Doubt that label will ever go away.
Considering it sounds like he tore his MCL, I think the "quitter" label will go away soon. Far sooner than the "Rapelisberger" label will go away.
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Patriots lost in 2007 thinking they can win another....

Colts lost last year thinking they can win another....

Steelers will lost this year thinking they can win another....

The football god told me this.
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