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Danimal wrote:I don't understand why the Jets have such high expectations, they only made the playoffs last year because the Colts and Bengals laid down the last 2 weeks. Sure they got hot in the playoffs but it's not like they we're a powerhouse.
I totally agree. They were 8-6 last year and like u said 2 of those were against teams that weren't motivated to win. Sure the Jets have solid defense, but
they aren't going to win many games with a few field goals. All preseason, they struggled to score and then the same thing continued in game 1. You can't just
flip a magic switch and and expect offense. I think all this Super Bowl talk is way too premature. Lets at least win some games against some top teams before we
even mention the words Super Bowl.

Yes, I am a big Jets fan, but I was worried about the offence watching "Hard Knocks" and also about all the premature Super Bowl talk. I hope they can learn from this loss
to be a little more humble and do their talking on the field from now on.
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Everyone head underground, Jack and I agree on something :)

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Rodster wrote:Looks like the Jests have a sexual harassment case over this. Can't say I blame them. 8)

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This chick is rediculous. She shows up to a practice wearing jeans so tight, you can see her tatoo's through them.
How about dressing more "professional" instead of like a FHM cover girl, if you want to be taken more seriously?
Oh yeah and did I mention she posed nude a while ago? Yeah, she a regular Barbara Walters. What a joke.
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I always say to never get too excited by the performance of a rookie, especially a rookie qb. You usually can't judge the true talent of a player until their 3rd year.

The first year is about learning the game and those players with some talent and skill will play beyond their rookie status.

The second year is about NFL coaches having a full year of game film and whole offseason to gameplan against. This is the big reason for the sophomore slump.

The third year is about the player overcoming and coming into his own.

Guys like Adrian Peterson you can just tell in their rookie season that they're special. Guys like Matt Forte show the rookie skill and now in his third year he has to prove if he is a player or not. I never saw the big hub-bub about Sanchez last year and I certainly don't through the preseason and week 1 this year. We'll see what happens by next year though.
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It's raining, it's pouring for the Jets: Kris Jenkins done for the season, tearing up the same knee he had surgically reconstructed:

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Ryan Grant done for the year too it looks like. Poor Packer fans. They need Grant to balance that offense and I'm not sure Jackson can handle the workload. They'll find out soon enough.

And F the Jets...overrated crap sitting at the bottom of the division already. :)
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Remember, they traded up and gave him a big contract (top 5 pick IIRC), then started him from game 1 of his rookie year.

They're all in.

It may be that they didn't expect quite the playoff run they made last year, so now with Revis' big contract, their window has to be compressed somewhat, assuming there is still a cap of some kind 3-4 years from now.
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Now Bob Sanders might be done for the year too with torn biceps. Dude can't stay healthy. Reminds me a lot of Mike Brown for the Bears on that front.
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Goodbye Lawrence Maroney. Maybe you will finally realize that you are not on Dancing with the Stars in Denver.
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didn't post the past 2 days. It would've been a rage


didn't like Rex Ryan last year. And after 1 game this year, that hasn't changed. Win or lose, it doesn't matter. Not a fan of proud, cocky, rednecks. That aside, the MF didn't have his team ready to play football. 100 yards penalties in the first half? Completely unprepared & undisciplined team. Offensive game plan, did he have one? No Shonn Greene in the 2nd half? If you want to teach the second-year player a lesson, you had better get a QB first. Someone has to touch the ball

Mark Sanchez? This is not the same QB from 2009. Not even remotely. To me, he looks like he's masking an injury. Don't know if this is the case, however that's how he looked. Additionally, Sanchez didn't even move as well, as last year. In 2009 he looked athletic. While monday night, he made Rick Mirer look appealing. Completely different quarterback. What the f#ck have you been working on in mini-camps, training camp, and the pre-season. This applies to Rex Ryan, and Marty Junior as well. What have you been doing ??

on the upside, if this experiment fails, it will serve as a a reminder that this approach doesn't work in the NFL. And less chance of any Rex Ryan impersonators in the future. I would kill to have Mike Singletary as a coach. And or love to play for him. Ditto for Ditka, Vince Lombardi, etc. Win or lose, not a fan of teams that talk and coaches. Old skool

you had better win, Rex. If not the city will turn on you faster then you down a meal at your favorite NJ diner. Shut the F#ck up and coach your team
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vinny-b wrote:on the upside, if this experiment fails, it will serve as a a reminder that this approach doesn't work in the NFL. And less chance of any Rex Ryan impersonators in the future. I would kill to have Mike Singletary as a coach. And or love to play for him.
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=j ... snap091410

Might want to read that before you start declaring Singletary as a great coach. Apparently dude doesn't even know what plays are being called because he can't be bothered to learn the offensive terminology, which is leading to a lot of resentment by the players. And you see what that does...getting absolutely waxed by a bad Seattle team.
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vinny-b wrote: Mark Sanchez? This is not the same QB from 2009. Not even remotely. To me, he looks like he's masking an injury. Don't know if this is the case, however that's how he looked. Additionally, Sanchez didn't even move as well, as last year. In 2009 he looked athletic. While monday night, he made Rick Mirer look appealing. Completely different quarterback. What the f#ck have you been working on in mini-camps, training camp, and the pre-season. This applies to Rex Ryan, and Marty Junior as well. What have you been doing ??
That's what I was saying earlier that something is different about Sanchez this year. Last year when I watched him play against the Dolphins, he had confidence, he launched it, was mobile and performed as well as you can expect from a rookie QB playing for a NY team.

This year he's playing with that deer in the headlights look and just doesn't appear to take chances like he did last year. So yeah I agree with you either the coaches tried to change too much and now he's confused and lacks confidence or he's hiding an injury.
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Rodster wrote:This year he's playing with that deer in the headlights look and just doesn't appear to take chances like he did last year. So yeah I agree with you either the coaches tried to change too much and now he's confused and lacks confidence or he's hiding an injury.
Or he had a couple good games (and that's being generous) before teams were able to fully scout him and is overrated as hell like every other USC QB in the last few years. Don't forget that option.
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dbdynsty25 wrote:
Rodster wrote:This year he's playing with that deer in the headlights look and just doesn't appear to take chances like he did last year. So yeah I agree with you either the coaches tried to change too much and now he's confused and lacks confidence or he's hiding an injury.
Or he had a couple good games (and that's being generous) before teams were able to fully scout him and is overrated as hell like every other USC QB in the last few years. Don't forget that option.
If he were playing anywhere other than NY i'd totally agree. In this NFL either you perform well or perform badly like Ryan Leaf. He did have a couple of really good games last year but he was not bad in other games playing as a rookie .

I would not put Carlson Palmer in the overrated category. :)
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dbdynsty25 wrote:
Rodster wrote:This year he's playing with that deer in the headlights look and just doesn't appear to take chances like he did last year. So yeah I agree with you either the coaches tried to change too much and now he's confused and lacks confidence or he's hiding an injury.
Or he had a couple good games (and that's being generous) before teams were able to fully scout him and is overrated as hell like every other USC QB in the last few years. Don't forget that option.
Agree with you on Leinart. Palmer isn't that bad. The knee injury set him back. He's still thrown for 3,000 yards or more in all but one of his healthy seasons.
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dbdynsty25 wrote:
Rodster wrote:This year he's playing with that deer in the headlights look and just doesn't appear to take chances like he did last year. So yeah I agree with you either the coaches tried to change too much and now he's confused and lacks confidence or he's hiding an injury.
Or he had a couple good games (and that's being generous) before teams were able to fully scout him and is overrated as hell like every other USC QB in the last few years. Don't forget that option.
Agree with you on Leinart. Palmer isn't that bad. The knee injury set him back. He's still thrown for 3,000 yards or more in all but one of his healthy seasons.
Yeah that knee injury was a huge bummer because he was having one helluva year.
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Carson Palmer is an average NFL QB. He's had a ridiculous set of receivers for virtually every season and his team has been pretty bad for the most part. The knee injury did set him back and he hasn't been the same since, but with the amount of hype he got coming out of SC...he should be elite.

And PK, saying Carson Palmer "isn't that bad" isn't exactly a ringing endorsement. :)
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Palmer is a good quarterback, and certainly was in the top 5 for a couple of years. I think last year he still had some lingering issues from the elbow injury he had in 2008. You can't label him a bust, and while he's had some very good receivers, those Bengal teams were average-to-shitty in other areas.
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You can have Singletary if you want.

His rep as a player and inspirational utterances are only going to take you so far in this league, especially combined with a caveman football philosophy which doesn't play -- that also seems to be the Jets' approach too, to only throw when they have to.

He can't attract the best position coaches because he hasn't been in coaching long enough to know these coaches and he certainly doesn't inspire ambitious young coaches to want to work for him, like Walsh did.

The game preparation issues are not new and unexpected. Nolan was like that too.

That's what you get when the ownership goes cheap -- unproven coaching, squandering high draft picks, etc.
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dbdynsty25 wrote:Carson Palmer is an average NFL QB. He's had a ridiculous set of receivers for virtually every season and his team has been pretty bad for the most part. The knee injury did set him back and he hasn't been the same since, but with the amount of hype he got coming out of SC...he should be elite.

And PK, saying Carson Palmer "isn't that bad" isn't exactly a ringing endorsement. :)
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pk500 wrote:I'd take him under center in Buffalo in a heartbeat.
Well of course...he can throw the ball over ten yards. That's an upgrade in Buffalo!
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Apparently Bill Simmons agrees with me...from todays NFL Column:
And can we finally give up the whole "Carson Palmer is a good quarterback" thing? His gaudy stat line (345 yards, a couple of TDs) came in extended garbage time. He threw one pick for a touchdown and another three ducks that the Patriots dropped. He couldn't have looked more inaccurate and uncomfortable until the Pats backed off with a 31-3 lead. And you know what else? Like Mischa Barton, he hasn't looked that good for four years. All-Pro status ain't coming back. For either of them. Time to give up the ghost.
Agreed...agreed. :)
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Week two first half impressions.

Bears...Looking good. Keep it going boys.

Dolphins...Dont wanna "jinx" ya but very tough so far shutting down the Vikings.

Steelers... Shocking me...Tomlin. This guy is a LEADER.

Eagles....Hide your doggies, Vick is back.

Falcons...crushing them there red birds. Cards without Warner and Boldin are a no go.
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XXXIV wrote:Week two first half impressions.

Bears...Looking good. Keep it going boys.

Dolphins...Dont wanna "jinx" ya but very tough so far shutting down the Vikings.

Steelers... Shocking me...Tomlin. This guy is a LEADER.

Eagles....Hide your doggies, Vick is back.

Falcons...crushing them there red birds. Cards without Warner and Boldin are a no go.
Did you post this before or after the Ricky Williams fumble. :P
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