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Bah I was playing Links on my EGA video card 17 colors.XXXIV wrote:Rodster wrote:Some of us where playing the better golf game - Links Golf (DOS)XXXIV wrote: Agree!....and to take it a step further I will say I am having the most fun I have had with an EA golf game since I was playing PGA Tour on my XT back in 1990-91....Ouch!...I must admit with great shame that I was once an EA fan boy ...Plus I ONLY had an XT with an EGA video card. 16 colors baby!
DivotMaker wrote:JRod wrote:
Ok, whatever. You don't like it fine. I respect that. I do, but I also know it could be much better and they will continue to work on getting the little things right. IMO, this is THE best console version of TW I have ever played....
that's not what he said.DivotMaker wrote:No s*** jack...Beginner and Amateur are SUPPOSED to be easy to hit straight off the tee. That is by DESIGN to appeal the casual users.JackB1 wrote:
-even at the start of the game it’s extremely easy to keep the ball straight off the tee. Even on Pro Tour difficulty keeping it on the fairway remains far too easy unless there’s significant wind."
How? It's more than just a different camera view, it takes "Focus" totally out of the game. There is no shrinkable "aiming circle" (depending on how much "focus" you've accumulated) in True Aim. You have a chance of spraying the ball within the default random aiming circle that would be there if you weren't in True Aim mode. You can't see the size of that circle in True Aim mode, but it's there... believe me IT IS there!JackB1 wrote:How does "TrueAim" make the game harder? This was discussed previously. It's just a different camera view.
Since the game defaults to Beginner when you start the game, my comments stand. TOUR Pro hits easier with Beginner clubs. Any reviewer who does not get past the Beginner clubs and spends some real time with the game building up a character doesn't do any review justice, IMO. You are trying real hard to slam TW11 without having played as much as the typical reviewer, so why waste your time. Don't even rent the game jack since you are already predisposed to not liking it.JackB1 wrote:that's not what he said.DivotMaker wrote:No s*** jack...Beginner and Amateur are SUPPOSED to be easy to hit straight off the tee. That is by DESIGN to appeal the casual users.JackB1 wrote:
-even at the start of the game it’s extremely easy to keep the ball straight off the tee. Even on Pro Tour difficulty keeping it on the fairway remains far too easy unless there’s significant wind."
Divot,ignore the guy man. It's obvious what he's doing. His opinions are based on a demo and a reviewer. I think anyone that can read can see how much fun many on this forum are having with the game.DivotMaker wrote:Since the game defaults to Beginner when you start the game, my comments stand. TOUR Pro hits easier with Beginner clubs. Any reviewer who does not get past the Beginner clubs and spends some real time with the game building up a character doesn't do any review justice, IMO. You are trying real hard to slam TW11 without having played as much as the typical reviewer, so why waste your time. Don't even rent the game jack since you are already predisposed to not liking it.JackB1 wrote:that's not what he said.DivotMaker wrote: No s*** jack...Beginner and Amateur are SUPPOSED to be easy to hit straight off the tee. That is by DESIGN to appeal the casual users.
Rodster wrote:Honestly people, Tiger Woods, Madden, NCAA Football, FIFA, PES, NHL, NBA 2K are all videogames and are meant for entertainment purposes. Still can't figure out why certain individuals are hellbent thinking these are simulations of the sport.
Just freaking enjoy them for what they are and when something stupid happens just laugh along with the videogame. It's less stressful that way.
I am not going to comment anymore until I get the full game. I am basing too much of my opinion on the demo and that's probabaly not fair. I guess I just got tired of being disappointed year after year by this series and always hoping the "new and improved" version will be better. You can't blame me for being sceptical, but I will rserve judgement until I get my rental copy. Believe me Divot, I would love to have a TW game that doesn't bore me after 2 weeks.DivotMaker wrote: Since the game defaults to Beginner when you start the game, my comments stand. TOUR Pro hits easier with Beginner clubs. Any reviewer who does not get past the Beginner clubs and spends some real time with the game building up a character doesn't do any review justice, IMO. You are trying real hard to slam TW11 without having played as much as the typical reviewer, so why waste your time. Don't even rent the game jack since you are already predisposed to not liking it.
Sad but so very true.Wilk5280 wrote:I made a comment about this last year. All you have to do is take a look at which tournaments are getting the most play and you'll see why EA is not going to make Tiger Woods an honest to goodness sim golf game. It's not what the market wants.
Realistic sports gamers are a niche market no matter how much the folks at OS think it's not so.
Actually, EA is really listening to the simulation users as they realize this is a market segment they have neglected and they are getting alot of good feedback and praise for increasing the challenge for hardcore simulation users with TW11. That being said, the complaints on the EA Tiger forums are 95% Amateur arcade users who care only that they can boost and spin the ball holing out 10-15 times per round. To them that is "fun". Their claim is that Focus has ruined all of this because now they have to actually conserve focus and strategize their way around the course. The gall of EA to actually make you use strategy and course management in a Golf game....Wilk5280 wrote:I made a comment about this last year. All you have to do is take a look at which tournaments are getting the most play and you'll see why EA is not going to make Tiger Woods an honest to goodness sim golf game. It's not what the market wants.
Realistic sports gamers are a niche market no matter how much the folks at OS think it's not so.
Guys,Diablo25 wrote:Shot a +6 78 at St. Andrews in a Tour Pro/True Aim 18 hole Daily today. Not bad for my first online tourney. Greens were a b*tch!
This is why I have been saying for years on other forums is, I don't know why these companies like EA doesn't allow for Arcade and Simulation modes. They can include all the over the top stuff in arcade mode.DivotMaker wrote: Actually, EA is really listening to the simulation users as they realize this is a market segment they have neglected and they are getting alot of good feedback and praise for increasing the challenge for hardcore simulation users with TW11. That being said, the complaints on the EA Tiger forums are 95% Amateur arcade users who care only that they can boost and spin the ball holing out 10-15 times per round. To them that is "fun". Their claim is that Focus has ruined all of this because now they have to actually conserve focus and strategize their way around the course. The gall of EA to actually make you use strategy and course management in a Golf game....
They could care less that the game is licensed with the PGA TOUR and that these arcade features have NO PLACE in any game licensed to represent the PGA TOUR. You can thank TW2003 and David Dimartini of EA for bringing that arcade crap to the TW franchise. I am pushing EA to continue to further separate the two versions, arcade and simulation so they continue to give simulation users more of what they want and let the arcade users play their game using 7 year old arcade features that have nothing to do with the game of Golf.
Thanks Divot.DivotMaker wrote:Guys,Diablo25 wrote:Shot a +6 78 at St. Andrews in a Tour Pro/True Aim 18 hole Daily today. Not bad for my first online tourney. Greens were a b*tch!
Here is a tip on playing Very Fast or Lightning Fast greens.....when lining up the putt, determine the speed of the putt first. If you have a 20' putt that is 4 " uphill, take 24 (length of the putt + the uphill 4") and multiply 24 times 60% which should give you a putt strength of about 14.4'. When putting uphill, round the strength up to 15', the opposite when putting downhill. Keep in mind this is for Very Fast or Lightning Fast greens....hope this helps some of you with the putting aspect of TW11 as this has worked for me.
If I play with a Pro, won't them mean I will be hitting 300 yard drives out of the box?DivotMaker wrote:Jack,
There are hints all through this thread giving you tips on what to do. Since you are renting the game, I do not recommend creating a character instead playing with a Pro and if you find the game to your liking, then buy it and create a character, then go through the Skills Challenges to build your character up.
Not if you play as Corey Pavin.JackB1 wrote:If I play with a Pro, won't them mean I will be hitting 300 yard drives out of the box?DivotMaker wrote:Jack,
There are hints all through this thread giving you tips on what to do. Since you are renting the game, I do not recommend creating a character instead playing with a Pro and if you find the game to your liking, then buy it and create a character, then go through the Skills Challenges to build your character up.
OK, I'll try that. thanks!Danimal wrote:Jack,
Here is what I would recommend, create a golfer but don't go to Tour Pro / Tru aim and then do the challenges. They will give you a decent ammount of points to get a competent golfer.
Then before starting your PGA season change the difficulty.
I went the hardest difficulty and true aim out of the box and it made all the challenges very hard except for the tier 1's in each category. Thus I had to plow through season events with no hopes of competiting just to get exp to bring my guy up to speed to do the challenges.
