MLB Season 2010

Danimal · Post by **Danimal** » Mon Apr 05, 2010 4:40 pm

Zambrano shouldn't be the #1 starter for anyone, this guy will suck again this year.

dbdynsty25 · Post by **dbdynsty25** » Mon Apr 05, 2010 4:42 pm

Zambrano got screwed by two little popups that somehow they let fall. So that inning should have been a lot less damaging than it was.

vinny-b · Post by **vinny-b** » Mon Apr 05, 2010 4:47 pm

dbdynsty25 wrote:Yes...he is good. And that ball wasn't a cheapy...that sh*t was CRUSHED.

yes it was. Know you hyped, to have him in Atlanta. The interview he did with Valentine last week, was very telling

on a non-related note. Granderson hit a HR in his first at-bat with NYY. Exciting

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dbdynsty25 · Post by **dbdynsty25** » Mon Apr 05, 2010 4:50 pm

Nice throw Zambrano...lol. Okay that one is his fault.

Oh and the bomb he just gave up to McCann is his fault too. LOL.

Danimal · Post by **Danimal** » Mon Apr 05, 2010 4:56 pm

dbdynsty25 wrote:Nice throw Zambrano...lol. Okay that one is his fault.

Oh and the bomb he just gave up to McCann is his fault too. LOL.

LOL being a braves fan sitting in an office of Cub's fans...this is priceless. Oh they took him out. hahahaha!

10spro · Post by **10spro** » Mon Apr 05, 2010 5:02 pm

Well, Jays led for most the game until J. Frasor blew a save for an otherwise fine performance by S. Marcum against Texas. It'll be a season of bullpen frustrations, I'll get used it.

MizzouRah · Post by **MizzouRah** » Mon Apr 05, 2010 5:30 pm

sportdan30 wrote:
MizzouRah wrote:Pujols with 2 hrs already!
He's on pace for 324 home runs this year!

Yaddy Mo!

Lots of hitting today... Franklin is going to be another Izzy...

dbdynsty25 · Post by **dbdynsty25** » Mon Apr 05, 2010 5:47 pm

Damn, cubs just got screwed. That was a horrible call...and they should be able to review that. I will feel bad about that for a few min. but I'll get over it.

XXXIV · Post by **XXXIV** » Mon Apr 05, 2010 5:50 pm

dbdynsty25 wrote:Damn, cubs just got screwed. That was a horrible call...and they should be able to review that. I will feel bad about that for a few min. but I'll get over it.

f*** the ScRubs....Go Braves!

White Sox 1-0 baby and on their way to an undefeated season!

vinny-b · Post by **vinny-b** » Mon Apr 05, 2010 6:07 pm

Jon Heyman needs to remove himself from the MLB Network. The ex-jocks have that set/studio, locked down. Don't need input from him or his peers.

vinny-b · Post by **vinny-b** » Mon Apr 05, 2010 6:22 pm

KC loses the lead to Detroit.

sad.

in the past 10+ years, been hoping/cheering for this franchise to return to it's former dominance. Brett, Wilson, McRae, Frank White, Quisenberry, Saberhagen, Bo Jackson, Apier, etc. Yet, they never turn the corner. No matter, they will remain my second fave team.

bulls23 · Post by **bulls23** » Mon Apr 05, 2010 7:27 pm

dbdynsty25 wrote:Damn, cubs just got screwed. That was a horrible call...and they should be able to review that. I will feel bad about that for a few min. but I'll get over it.

Cubs got screwed? You act like they lost by one run rather than 11. No one is "screwed" when they give up two 6- run innings. Cubs just suck period. Why does anyone think Zambrano is an ace?

dbdynsty25 · Post by **dbdynsty25** » Mon Apr 05, 2010 7:38 pm

bulls23 wrote:
dbdynsty25 wrote:Damn, cubs just got screwed. That was a horrible call...and they should be able to review that. I will feel bad about that for a few min. but I'll get over it.
Cubs got screwed? You act like they lost by one run rather than 11. No one is "screwed" when they give up two 6- run innings. Cubs just suck period. Why does anyone think Zambrano is an ace?

That was a big point in the game too though...it was a 3 run game with what should have been two guys on and no outs with Lowe having control issues.

TheGamer2 · Post by **TheGamer2** » Mon Apr 05, 2010 8:28 pm

Zambrano's performance today is nothing new for him on opening day. He always struggles. I'm all for not letting him have the opening day start performance wise, I guess its a respect thing.

2005 – @ Arizona…4.2IP, 7H, 3ER, 4BB, 8K, ND…Cubs win 16-6

2006 – @ Cincinnati…4.2IP, 7H, 5ER, 5BB, 5K, ND…Cubs win 16-7

2007 – @ Cincinnati…5IP, 6H, 5ER, 5BB, 2K, (0-1)…Cubs lose 5-1

2008 – vs. Milwaukee…6.2IP, 3H, 0ER, 1BB, 5K, ND…Cubs lose 4-3 in 10

2009 – @ Houston…6IP, 5H, 1ER, 3BB, 6K, (1-0)…Cubs win 4-2

All totaled…(1-1)…3 no-decisions…26IP…28H…17ER…

But he's still 105-68 over his career and hasn't had a losing season since 02.

MizzouRah · Post by **MizzouRah** » Mon Apr 05, 2010 9:23 pm

Good for Zambrano.. can't stand him.

TheGamer2 · Post by **TheGamer2** » Mon Apr 05, 2010 9:43 pm

XXXIV wrote:
dbdynsty25 wrote:Damn, cubs just got screwed. That was a horrible call...and they should be able to review that. I will feel bad about that for a few min. but I'll get over it.
f*** the ScRubs....Go Braves!

White Sox 1-0 baby and on their way to an undefeated season!

Or not

fletcher21 · Post by **fletcher21** » Mon Apr 05, 2010 10:43 pm

Badger_Fan wrote:
fletcher21 wrote:
vinny-b wrote: I don't really have a "team" in any sport. I love watching sports though, but I don't pull for my home teams. I am from Minnesota. I think this year the Twins will have a team that is capable of putting up some runs, but their pitching staff is suspect at best. The "ace" of the Twins staff would maybe be a #4 starter on a top 5 team, so they're hurting. Ever since Santana left and Liriano went down with his injury they've been suspect. Closer Joe Nathan is hurt too, so I think the Twins are going to lose a lot of 9-8 or 10-7 type games this year. Scoring runs won't be an issue, but keeping the other team to under 5 runs a game will be a challenge. If I had to pick a team I like the best it would be the Red Sox.
You underrate the Twins pitching, especially the rotation. Baker is as good or better than all but Sabathia on the Yankees. Slowey would also make that rotation, and if Liriano is finally "back" from TJ surgery, he's going to be fine as well.

Baker is as good as or better than all but Sabathia? How much Twins Kool Aid have you been drinking man? NO ONE outside of Minnesota would ever say that. Not only is Sabathia a better pitcher (by far) than anyone on the Twins staff, so is Joba, Hughes and possibly even Pettite on a good day. If Baker was on the NYY he would be at best their #4 starter. Pettite would probably be #5 due to his age. Baker is just NOT an ace, period. Anyone who knows baseball knows the Twins pitching staff is bottom of the barrel. If the Twins were in the AL east and had to face the Sox, Yanks and Rays on a regular basis this team would be 20 games below 500. Playing in the central is the only reason the Twins make the playoffs on a yearly basis. They're a cute little "small market" club with some good hitting, but their pitching staff has not had an ace that opponents feared since Liriano got hurt and Santana went out east where the money is.

fletcher21 · Post by **fletcher21** » Mon Apr 05, 2010 10:47 pm

vinny-b wrote:KC loses the lead to Detroit.

sad.

in the past 10+ years, been hoping/cheering for this franchise to return to it's former dominance. Brett, Wilson, McRae, Frank White, Quisenberry, Saberhagen, Bo Jackson, Apier, etc. Yet, they never turn the corner. No matter, they will remain my second fave team.

You could do a lot worse than catching a game @ Kaufman. Top 5 stadium in my opinion. I always love a good weekend road trip to KC to catch a series there and do the hotel thing.

vinny-b · Post by **vinny-b** » Tue Apr 06, 2010 3:11 am

fletcher21 wrote:
vinny-b wrote:KC loses the lead to Detroit.

sad.

in the past 10+ years, been hoping/cheering for this franchise to return to it's former dominance. Brett, Wilson, McRae, Frank White, Quisenberry, Saberhagen, Bo Jackson, Apier, etc. Yet, they never turn the corner. No matter, they will remain my second fave team.
You could do a lot worse than catching a game @ Kaufman. Top 5 stadium in my opinion. I always love a good weekend road trip to KC to catch a series there and do the hotel thing.

thanks. I believe you

based on television, Wrigley Field and Kaufman Stadium are prolly my favorite parks. Followed by Comerica (Detroit).

would like to attend a game in KC, one day. Have you visited since they did the remodeling ?

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lexbur · Post by **lexbur** » Tue Apr 06, 2010 9:24 am

Man, that Heward kid looks awesome. Yesterday was the first I've seen of him. I see what you guys are raving about. And I love that he's a local Atlanta kid, too, his whole family was at the game. Very cool.

And he was a 14th pick? What the heck were the other 13 teams thinking? (Of course the Tribe was one of those teams.

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dbdynsty25 · Post by **dbdynsty25** » Tue Apr 06, 2010 9:39 am

lexbur wrote:Man, that Heward kid looks awesome. Yesterday was the first I've seen of him. I see what you guys are raving about. And I love that he's a local Atlanta kid, too, his whole family was at the game. Very cool.

And he was a 14th pick? What the heck were the other 13 teams thinking? (Of course the Tribe was one of those teams. )

Well the knock on him was that he wasn't aggressive at the plate because when he was a senior everyone pitched around him. The Braves had been scouting him since he was a sophomore (sometimes hiding in the trees beyond the outfield fence as to not give it away that they were interested) so they knew the lack aggressiveness was more plate discipline than anything...hence the reason he slipped in the draft. It's pretty easy to scout kids in your own backyard. McCann and Francouer were local kids too.

Badger_Fan · Post by **Badger_Fan** » Tue Apr 06, 2010 10:45 am

fletcher21 wrote:
Badger_Fan wrote:
fletcher21 wrote: You underrate the Twins pitching, especially the rotation. Baker is as good or better than all but Sabathia on the Yankees. Slowey would also make that rotation, and if Liriano is finally "back" from TJ surgery, he's going to be fine as well.
Baker is as good as or better than all but Sabathia? How much Twins Kool Aid have you been drinking man? NO ONE outside of Minnesota would ever say that. Not only is Sabathia a better pitcher (by far) than anyone on the Twins staff, so is Joba, Hughes and possibly even Pettite on a good day. If Baker was on the NYY he would be at best their #4 starter. Pettite would probably be #5 due to his age. Baker is just NOT an ace, period. Anyone who knows baseball knows the Twins pitching staff is bottom of the barrel. If the Twins were in the AL east and had to face the Sox, Yanks and Rays on a regular basis this team would be 20 games below 500. Playing in the central is the only reason the Twins make the playoffs on a yearly basis. They're a cute little "small market" club with some good hitting, but their pitching staff has not had an ace that opponents feared since Liriano got hurt and Santana went out east where the money is.

Where did I say that anyone on the Twins was better than Sabathia? I said the exact opposite. If you're going to come and tell me that Hughes and Chamberlain are better than Baker, then just stop. Neither pitcher has done anything as a starter to prove that they belong in a rotation, let alone as anything more than a 5th starter.

Hughes has been a failure as a starter. You want to know his numbers as a starter? 5.22 ERA, 1.44 WHIP and 7.13 K/9. Chamberlain? 4.16 ERA, 1.47 WHIP, 8.37 K/9. That's what you're touting as the second coming of Yankee pitching?

fletcher21 · Post by **fletcher21** » Tue Apr 06, 2010 10:55 am

Badger_Fan wrote:
fletcher21 wrote:
Badger_Fan wrote: Baker is as good as or better than all but Sabathia? How much Twins Kool Aid have you been drinking man? NO ONE outside of Minnesota would ever say that. Not only is Sabathia a better pitcher (by far) than anyone on the Twins staff, so is Joba, Hughes and possibly even Pettite on a good day. If Baker was on the NYY he would be at best their #4 starter. Pettite would probably be #5 due to his age. Baker is just NOT an ace, period. Anyone who knows baseball knows the Twins pitching staff is bottom of the barrel. If the Twins were in the AL east and had to face the Sox, Yanks and Rays on a regular basis this team would be 20 games below 500. Playing in the central is the only reason the Twins make the playoffs on a yearly basis. They're a cute little "small market" club with some good hitting, but their pitching staff has not had an ace that opponents feared since Liriano got hurt and Santana went out east where the money is.
Where did I say that anyone on the Twins was better than Sabathia? I said the exact opposite. If you're going to come and tell me that Hughes and Chamberlain are better than Baker, then just stop. Neither pitcher has done anything as a starter to prove that they belong in a rotation, let alone as anything more than a 5th starter.

Hughes has been a failure as a starter. You want to know his numbers as a starter? 5.22 ERA, 1.44 WHIP and 7.13 K/9. Chamberlain? 4.16 ERA, 1.47 WHIP, 8.37 K/9. That's what you're touting as the second coming of Yankee pitching?

Look at what division their pitch in. The AL East is the best division in baseball. Hughes and Chamberlain would have an era of 1/2 what they have now if they got to beat up on Cleveland, KC, Detroit and the White Sox instead of the Red Sox, Rays and other top notch teams. I didn't even mention Burnett in my argument. Here's the Yanks rotation:

1. Sabathia
2. Burnett
3. Joba
4. Hughes
5. Pettite ?

Where in there would Scott Baker fit in? At BEST he is their #4 starter. His era is benefitted greatly by the division he pitches in. If he played for the Yankees or Red Sox he would get HAMMERED and be a bullpen guy before the all star break. There's a reason the Twins win the central and then get knocked out in the first round of the playoffs every year like clockwork, man. No other MLB team benefits more from their weak division than the Minnesota Twins. That's just a fact. Cleveland and KC are 2 of the worst teams in the league and they are BOTH in the AL Central.

vinny-b · Post by **vinny-b** » Tue Apr 06, 2010 11:05 am

Chamberlain is not in the rotation. Javier Vazquez is.

and he will have a very big year

fletcher21 · Post by **fletcher21** » Tue Apr 06, 2010 11:07 am

vinny-b wrote:Chamberlain is not in the rotation. Javier Vazquez is.

and he will have a very big year

Ah, good clarification. I am not in the know on all things NYY like you are, Vinny.

PeaceBw/