Tiger Woods hurt in car accident

Rodster · Post by **Rodster** » Fri Dec 11, 2009 9:23 pm

bulls23 wrote: TRANSLATION:

I cheated on my wife and it's my damn business. Since I'm worth a billion dollars plus, I don't ever have to set foot on a golf course again.

Last year when I was out, tv ratings dropped by 50 percent and a lot people lost money: (hotels , cities, restaurants etc) because I wasn't in town. Now if the media doesn't get offa my ass, a lot more money will be lost.

So all of you people who depend on me to be in a golf tournament better start rallying to my side and get these media houndbitches off of me or else.

Yup that's exactly how I read too.

toonarmy · Post by **toonarmy** » Fri Dec 11, 2009 9:32 pm

It's a bit surprising it took this long for Tiger's team to figure out how to release a proper statement. It's obvious this is being done for damage control as his image is taking a severe beating to the point it looks as if significant revenue could be lost. It's hard to imagine Tiger giving up golf for any appreciable amount of time. It's also tough to believe that he will truly reform his ways without being away from golf and seeking the necessary help. I think it will boil down to: will Tiger take a season off while he gets his ducks in a row and convinces his wife that he is sincere in his desire to reform, or will he try to temporarily smooth things over and go back on tour this coming season at some point and be revisited by the same impulses that got him into this mess? I will be absolutely shocked if Tiger really does take a hiatus from golf long enough to make the personal reforms necessary to save his marriage and change his ways in a substantive manner. My prediction is that he and his wife will split up before the end of next spring and Tiger will be golfing in the 2010 season. He's shown how uncommitted he is to his wife in a major way thus far. He is driven by his career and his ego. Don't let this PR statement crafted by his handlers fool you.

wco81 · Post by **wco81** » Fri Dec 11, 2009 9:33 pm

But he didn't accumulate a billion dollars by leaving money on the table. He could have just been a golfer and not bother with endorsements. After all, didn't his father said he would be destined for great things, not just a pitch man?

He's not going to burn any bridges.

If he stays in reasonable shape, he could play another 20 years -- because this is golf we're talking about. A guy who's used to action, on and off the course, settle for being a family man?

They say for some couples, retirement is the worst thing, because they have to be around each other all the time.

So for the sake of the marriage, Tiger might have to go back on the tour.

pk500 · Post by **pk500** » Fri Dec 11, 2009 11:46 pm

DivotMaker wrote:
wco81 wrote:Well either they think they have a lot of damage control to do or Tiger values his family more than his golf career.

But his statement says something like he's going to try but isn't sure it can be repaired.

PGA and the sponsors will pressure him to return by the first major.
They can pressure him all they want. Tim Finchem has stated that Tiger can take all the time he needs before he returns...

The PGA Tour said it supported the decision by its biggest star.

"His priorities are where they need to be, and we will continue to respect and honor his family's request for privacy," PGA Tour commissioner Tim Finchem said in a statement, the tour's first public comment since Woods mentioned his "personal failings" on Dec. 2. "We look forward to Tiger's return to the PGA Tour when he determines the time is right for him."

http://sports.espn.go.com/golf/news/story?id=4735593

Divot:

Finchem is shaking in his boots. His statement is nothing but pure PR.

The Tour goes as Tiger goes. The longer he stays away, the more the Tour weakens.

Tiger Woods is professional golf to most casual fans. Finchem is sh*tting bricks and wants his philandering ass back on Tour faster than you can say, "Take your name off your phone."

Take care,
PK

pk500 · Post by **pk500** » Fri Dec 11, 2009 11:53 pm

bulls23 wrote:TRANSLATION:

I cheated on my wife and it's my damn business. Since I'm worth a billion dollars plus, I don't ever have to set foot on a golf course again.

Last year when I was out, tv ratings dropped by 50 percent and a lot people lost money: (hotels , cities, restaurants etc) because I wasn't in town. Now if the media doesn't get offa my ass, a lot more money will be lost.

So all of you people who depend on me to be in a golf tournament better start rallying to my side and get these media houndbitches off of me or else.

True, especially for the PGA TOUR. But when it comes to sponsors, how many of Tiger's major backers are companies that depend solely on golf to promote their products?

Almost none.

So if Tiger Woods never set foot inside the ropes at a PGA TOUR event again, Accenture, EA Sports, Gatorade, Gillette and Nike would funnel their money into another athlete or athletes and get good return for investment.

They might even get more return. Tiger's price tag was staggering, and there's no way he's going to be as effective of a pitchman after this scandal, at least short- to medium-term. And some people never may forgive him or believe in him as before since his image centered so much around idyllic perfection. That's just a mirage now.

Nike probably has the most to lose since its entire golf line was built around and exploded around Tiger. I'm not sure if Nike even had a golf division before Tiger. If it did, it was about as popular as Keds are now among NBA players.

But the other companies? They can find someone else and prosper. Maybe not to the level they did with Tiger, but they're going to have additional sponsorship dollars to spread to other activities because they're not going to pay as much to one endorser as they did Tiger.

Quick update: Nike already has pledged full support for Tiger and is "eager for his return." Well, no sh*t: Without Tiger, there is no Nike Golf.

Take care,
PK

pk500 · Post by **pk500** » Fri Dec 11, 2009 11:57 pm

Prediction: Tiger will return for The Masters.

It's just too convenient, too melodramatic, too perfect of a storyline for his image and for his sponsors and the media to ignore. The Cablinasian Knight patches up his personal life and rides into Amen Corner to save pro golf from a nameless, faceless spiral of public apathy.

It's just too perfect of a PR coup.

Like Toon, I'm one cynical motherf*cker when it comes to Tiger. Everything this guy does is crafted and schemed; nothing is genuine.

Take care,
PK

DivotMaker · Post by **DivotMaker** » Sat Dec 12, 2009 12:45 am

pk500 wrote:Divot:

Finchem is shaking in his boots. His statement is nothing but pure PR.

The Tour goes as Tiger goes. The longer he stays away, the more the Tour weakens.

Tiger Woods is professional golf to most casual fans. Finchem is sh*tting bricks and wants his philandering ass back on Tour faster than you can say, "Take your name off your phone."

Take care,
PK

I am well aware of that. But Finchem has little to no control over when Tiger comes back. He is saying all the right things which is to be expected. But I believe Tiger is still big enough to dictate terms and/or when he decides to return.....and I don't think he is going to impress anyone if he comes back in time for the Masters because if he truly "stays away from Golf and concentrates on the wife and family", it will take MONTHS for him to get back into "PGA TOUR" shape....maybe the US Open in June, but then again, it is Tiger's call.

greggsand · Post by **greggsand** » Sat Dec 12, 2009 4:04 am

pk500 wrote:Prediction: Tiger will return for The Masters.

It's just too convenient, too melodramatic, too perfect of a storyline for his image and for his sponsors and the media to ignore. The Cablinasian Knight patches up his personal life and rides into Amen Corner to save pro golf from a nameless, faceless spiral of public apathy.

It's just too perfect of a PR coup.

Like Toon, I'm one cynical motherf*cker when it comes to Tiger. Everything this guy does is crafted and schemed; nothing is genuine.

Take care,
PK

He has to come back sometime. I doubt his 1st return will be the Masters. He needs some kind of 'test' first (both 'media-wise' and 'golf-wise'). Probably Torrey Pines. He dominates there & SoCal can deal with 'media frenzies'. If he wants his 1st game back to be a winner (in many ways), it's torrey pines. I'd bet $$ on it...

Rodster · Post by **Rodster** » Sat Dec 12, 2009 9:50 am

pk500 wrote:Prediction: Tiger will return for The Masters.

It's just too convenient, too melodramatic, too perfect of a storyline for his image and for his sponsors and the media to ignore. The Cablinasian Knight patches up his personal life and rides into Amen Corner to save pro golf from a nameless, faceless spiral of public apathy.

It's just too perfect of a PR coup.

Like Toon, I'm one cynical motherf*cker when it comes to Tiger. Everything this guy does is crafted and schemed; nothing is genuine.

Take care,
PK

Jim Nantz must be getting all lathered up right now at just the thought. He's already trying to pick out the best soupy tear jerker piano background music his staff can come up with.

davet010 · Post by **davet010** » Sat Dec 12, 2009 9:59 am

Spose taking time off gives him time to complete the back 9

pk500 · Post by **pk500** » Sat Dec 12, 2009 11:15 am

davet010 wrote:Spose taking time off gives him time to complete the back 9

You and Mike Freeman of CBS Sportsline think alike. He blogged yesterday that a bigger bombshell regarding Tiger must be imminent because it's not in Tiger's fiber to quit, to go away, to walk away.

We shall see!

Take care,
PK

davet010 · Post by **davet010** » Sat Dec 12, 2009 12:26 pm

pk500 wrote:
davet010 wrote:Spose taking time off gives him time to complete the back 9

You and Mike Freeman of CBS Sportsline think alike. He blogged yesterday that a bigger bombshell regarding Tiger must be imminent because it's not in Tiger's fiber to quit, to go away, to walk away.

We shall see!

Take care,
PK

I'm not sure whether I've just been insulted or not......

webdanzer · Post by **webdanzer** » Sat Dec 12, 2009 3:52 pm

Check out *this* bit of spin

:

NEW YORK (AP) - A major sponsor of Tiger Woods will phase the world's most valuable athlete out of its advertisements while he takes time off to repair his personal life.

"As Tiger takes a break from the public eye, we will support his desire for privacy by limiting his role in our marketing programs," Gillette said Saturday.

The announcement by the Procter & Gamble division marks the first major sponsor of the superstar athlete and corporate pitchman to distance itself from Woods.

Woods will be phased out from Gillette's television and print advertising, and from public appearances and other efforts linking the two entities together, Gillette spokesman Damon Jones said.

"This is supporting his desire to step out of the public eye and we're going to support him by helping him to take a lower profile," he said.

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20091212/D9CHS9QG1.html

That's awesome work. They are supporting him by pulling their ads with him.

10spro · Post by **10spro** » Sun Dec 13, 2009 5:47 pm

Will other sponsors follow 'Accenture's decision to drop Tiger, one of the big companies that's been paying him the big bucks. Accenture claims "Tiger is no longer the right representative".

Zlax45 · Post by **Zlax45** » Sun Dec 13, 2009 5:57 pm

Interesting little article about Tiger getting it on the night his dad died.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/12/1 ... 90053.html

Rodster · Post by **Rodster** » Sun Dec 13, 2009 6:18 pm

Zlax45 wrote:Interesting little article about Tiger getting it on the night his dad died.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/12/1 ... 90053.html

Damn, can't say I blame him. I would hit that too regardless of the situation. That's the best looking one of the bunch so far.

wco81 · Post by **wco81** » Sun Dec 13, 2009 6:53 pm

Cheap tipper and asking for comped meals.

Hmmm, what's he spending that billion on?

toonarmy · Post by **toonarmy** » Sun Dec 13, 2009 7:08 pm

Before all this broke I think many people thought that Tiger and John Daly were on opposite ends of the spectrum when it came it to personal lifestyle and responsibility. Funny how Daly is increasingly looking like a more responsible person than Tiger. If even half of what is coming out about Tiger is true then he is a sorry piece of trash. I do not care how good TW 11 will be, there is no way I will buy it. EA is making a big error by sticking with TW. I guess time will tell if they change their tune and drop him.

Wilk5280 · Post by **Wilk5280** » Sun Dec 13, 2009 7:25 pm

You'd really let the cover boy determine your purchasing decisions on whether or not to buy a game?

I find this interesting because for me, the person on the cover has absolutely no bearing on whether or not I buy a game.

I understand what you're saying about what's come to light, but if the game is good I'm getting it. That doesn't mean I condone or support his behavior, or even him for that matter. It just means I want to play golf my on my 360.

toonarmy · Post by **toonarmy** » Sun Dec 13, 2009 7:33 pm

Wilk5280 wrote:You'd really let the cover boy determine your purchasing decisions on whether or not to buy a game?

I find this interesting because for me, the person on the cover has absolutely no bearing on whether or not I buy a game.

I understand what you're saying about what's come to light, but if the game is good I'm getting it. That doesn't mean I condone or support his behavior, or even him for that matter. It just means I want to play golf my on my 360.

A) I do not want to contribute money for his orgies.
B) I do not want to see his mug all over the game and hear his voice.
C) I believe in the idea of the best way to send a message to a business is with the wallet.

Normally the cover boy on a game has zero influence on my buying the game or not. In the case of Tiger I am making exception. He's not being dropped by sponsors for nothing. His bad image being associated with products extends beyond games.

MizzouRah · Post by **MizzouRah** » Sun Dec 13, 2009 8:11 pm

Jungers also claims that Woods was "always tight with money." In addition to refusing her request for help when she needed money, she says he did not tip: "When we'd go out for dinner, he never left a tip or he'd ask for the meal to be complimentary because he was 'Tiger Woods'. I just thought that was cheap and it always embarrassed me."

Figures... I thought highly of Woods, but the more I read about him, the more I'm realizing he's actually a jerk.

Hopefully someone did this to his food a time or two: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bS79YzlFuL8

pk500 · Post by **pk500** » Sun Dec 13, 2009 8:59 pm

Tiger's reputation as a tightwad, especially with tipping, preceded this entry tawdry affair.

Take care,
PK

Rodster · Post by **Rodster** » Sun Dec 13, 2009 9:13 pm

Wilk5280 wrote:You'd really let the cover boy determine your purchasing decisions on whether or not to buy a game?

I find this interesting because for me, the person on the cover has absolutely no bearing on whether or not I buy a game.

I understand what you're saying about what's come to light, but if the game is good I'm getting it. That doesn't mean I condone or support his behavior, or even him for that matter. It just means I want to play golf my on my 360.

Ditto, Tiger's personal life has no bearing on whether I buy his game or not. The same goes if ARod was on the cover of The Show or MLB 2K. It means nothing to me what they do in their private life. I watch these guys for entertainment and not what they do off camera, I really don't care.

So yeah if TW 11 is any good i'll buy it.

Feanor · Post by **Feanor** » Sun Dec 13, 2009 9:25 pm

I really can't understand why a guy that rich wouldn't tip. What a selfish c*nt.

Rodster · Post by **Rodster** » Sun Dec 13, 2009 9:28 pm

Feanor wrote:I really can't understand why a guy that rich wouldn't tip. What a selfish c*nt.

Because since he's been a kid everyone probably told him how wonderful he was. Spoiled rich brat that's all.