JRod wrote:As for Tiger, I think this breaks his aura completely not because he was in a wreck because his wife did a number on him. You know the guys in the locker room will not have the same fear of him as before.
Please tell me that was a joke. Please tell me you forgot to add the smiley face.
Tiger Woods can bench-press more than 300 pounds. Are you trying to tell me that he couldn't tear his tiny wife in half if he wanted to?
So it makes him less of a man because he showed self-control when his wife went postal? Would Phil Mickelson fear Tiger even more if he rearranged Elin's face last Thursday night?
Unbelievable.
Take care,
PK
I didn't imply he should fight back. I don't know what you fucks are trying to insinuate... all I'm talking about is this...
In the clubhouse he will be viewed differently. Part of Tiger's arsenal was the fight that he intimidated his opponents. I don't see how the other golfers don't look upon him now and see a different Tiger.
pk500 wrote:Tiger pulled out of his Chevron tournament this weekend, claiming the injuries from the car accident are preventing him from playing.
I didn't realize the mouth was part of a golfer's swing.
Take care,
PK
The mouth may not be, but the psyche is. And shithead 'journalists' who are interested in nothing but dirt would affect that, as well.
I think all of the endorsement angles and 'public figure' angles and all that are just excuses for the fact that, as Don Henley so aptly put it, 'we all know that crap is king, give us dirty laundry'. This appetite for destruction sells, and gets ratings, and so we get Jacko bullshit, and Tiger bullshit, and Jordan bullshit, and Brangelina bullshit, and on and on and on. It's a damned disease.
JRod wrote:In the clubhouse he will be viewed differently. Part of Tiger's arsenal was the fight that he intimidated his opponents. I don't see how the other golfers don't look upon him now and see a different Tiger.
Because his wife possibly roughed him up? Are you serious?
Tiger's intimidation came from what he did on the course. He destroyed guys. Never dropped a lead after 54 holes in a major until this year. Won a wheelbarrow full of majors by the time he was 30. Won majors by huge margins. Delivered clutch shot after clutch shot.
Tiger's aura wasn't built because he was a bad-ass Green Beret. Or because he can bench 300 pounds. Or because he pulled a baby from the jaws of an alligator when he was a teen.
Everything was based on what he has done on the course. And golf isn't a game of physical intimidation or a human contact sport. So how does his golf aura get roughed up because his wife used his face as a range ball?
Explain that one to me. I'm all eyes and genuinely intrigued by your upcoming explanation.
Take care,
PK
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Feanor wrote:I don't think that's great logic. Tiger's wife did a number on him (allegedly) only because he would not and could not fight back, not because he's a wimp.
JRod wrote:I didn't imply he should fight back. I don't know what you fucks are trying to insinuate... all I'm talking about is this...
I'm pretty sure this is borderline personal attack; so now it's my standard calm down everyone moderator post, or else threads will be locked and temp bans will happen, yadda yadda yadda.
JRod wrote:In the clubhouse he will be viewed differently. Part of Tiger's arsenal was the fight that he intimidated his opponents. I don't see how the other golfers don't look upon him now and see a different Tiger.
Because his wife roughed him up? Are you serious?
Tiger's intimidation came from what he did on the course. He destroyed guys. Never dropped a lead after 54 holes in a major until this year. Won a wheelbarrow full of majors by the time he was 30. Won majors by huge margins. Delivered clutch shot after clutch shot.
Tiger's aura wasn't built because he was a bad-ass Green Beret. Or because he can bench 300 pounds. Or because he pulled a baby from the jaws of an alligator when he was a teen.
Everything was based on what he has done on the course. So how does his golf aura get roughed up because his wife used his face as a range ball?
Explain that one to me. I'm all eyes and genuinely intrigued by your upcoming explanation.
Take care,
PK
Oh come on, Tiger had the image of being untouchable in every aspect of life.
Part of why he was so could was because his opponents crumbled in the 4th round. As a golfer, part of that was due to Tiger and how the others viewed that he was unbreakable.
Taken this incident as a whole, Tiger's no longer "untouchable". Not in terms of his wife doing anything to him, but that he's not the same "image created by Nike" fearsome golfer. What goes on off the field, also has an effect on the field. In golf, who you are off the field, is who you are on the field. It's a rare game because it is predominately a mental game.
All I'm saying is those opponents that play with Tiger on Sunday, aren't going to be as intimidated as they were because of this incident as a whole.
JRod wrote:I didn't imply he should fight back. I don't know what you fucks are trying to insinuate... all I'm talking about is this...
I'm pretty sure this is borderline personal attack; so now it's my standard calm down everyone moderator post, or else threads will be locked and temp bans will happen, yadda yadda yadda.
It was over the line so my apologies to PK and Feanor. I didn't like the insinuations that I was advocating for Tiger to hit his wife back.
JRod wrote:Oh come on, Tiger had the image of being untouchable in every aspect of life.
Part of why he was so could was because his opponents crumbled in the 4th round. As a golfer, part of that was due to Tiger and how the others viewed that he was unbreakable.
Taken this incident as a whole, Tiger's no longer "untouchable". Not in terms of his wife doing anything to him, but that he's not the same "image created by Nike" fearsome golfer. What goes on off the field, also has an effect on the field. In golf, who you are off the field, is who you are on the field. It's a rare game because it is predominately a mental game.
All I'm saying is those opponents that play with Tiger on Sunday, aren't going to be as intimidated as they were because of this incident as a whole.
Something tells me Y.E. Yang did a hell of a lot more to dispel Tiger's aura of invincibility last August than Elin Woods did with a 5-iron last Thursday night.
Elin didn't take down Tiger in the final round of a major; Y.E. did.
When a golfer is chasing Woods in the final round of a major in the next few years, do you think he's going to reassure himself by thinking, "Hey, I can beat this guy because his wife pounded him in the face with a pitching wedge" or "Hey, I can beat this guy because Yang did in 2009."
Something tells me the latter will be more prevalent and a hell of a lot more realistic.
Take care,
PK
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Can we just drop the Tiger thing and lament that Ronnie James Dio has stomach cancer? That's some heavy s*** for the metal dwarf to fight. Get well Dio! \m/
EZSnappin wrote:Can we just drop the Tiger thing and lament that Ronnie James Dio has stomach cancer? That's some heavy s*** for the metal dwarf to fight. Get well Dio! \m/
Get well, indeed. \m/
I am a patient boy.
I wait, I wait, I wait, I wait.
My time is water down a drain.
EZSnappin wrote:Can we just drop the Tiger thing and lament that Ronnie James Dio has stomach cancer? That's some heavy s*** for the metal dwarf to fight. Get well Dio! \m/
Yeah, that does suck. A friend of mine forwarded me the news via e-mail last weekend.
Take care,
PK
"You know why I love boxers? I love them because they face fear. And they face it alone." - Nick Charles
"First on the throttle, last on the brakes." - @MotoGP Twitter signature
In theory I agree with Teal. The man's marital issues are his issues to deal with and the media should stay the heck out of such things. The problem here, though, is that one of the world's most recognized people ran over a fire hydrant, allegedly got hurt, and the explanation given to the public so far is fishy at best. Tiger would have done well to just tell the truth, tell the media he's through discussing it, and then move on and let the media and fans say what they want. Instead, it appears that he and his wife have been dishonest and have not cooperated with the police. He destroyed public property so it is not a routine traffic incident where the police have no business prying.
Tiger is a huge name and people are naturally going to be interested in something like this. In fact, when I first heard, erroneously, that he was seriously injured I was taken aback. I like watching the guy golf and would be saddened if his injuries were as serious as originally reported. Of course I am going to be interested in this story since it involves one of the greatest talents in the history of the sport and was first reported in a way that implied he might be badly hurt. There is nothing wrong with fans reacting in a curious manner to that. The fact that the story is so bizarre and there appears to be lying involved will further fuel that curiosity. In a normal case the public has no inherent right to know about a man's personal dealings with his wife, but this case is light years beyond normal.
I side with Tiger Woods on this one. Whether his wife beat the crap out of him for cheating on her is their business. We are not entitled to an explanation as it's a private matter between them. He doesn't owe the general public any info into his private life and frankly I don't want to know either.
All the property damage he did he'll easily pay for. IMO what he does off the Links is his business, what he does on the Links should be the main focus of those who follow the sport.
His lawyers and handlers have already told him he doesn't need to explain anything to the cops and that's how it will probably stay.
Rodster wrote:All the property damage he did he'll easily pay for. IMO what he does off the Links is his business, what he does on the Links should be the main focus of those who follow the sport.
Yeah, exactly...tell that to all the dogs that Mike tortured and killed. It's no ones business what happens off the field/course.
Rodster wrote:All the property damage he did he'll easily pay for. IMO what he does off the Links is his business, what he does on the Links should be the main focus of those who follow the sport.
Yeah, exactly...tell that to all the dogs that Mike tortured and killed. It's no ones business what happens off the field/course.
what the hell does that have to do with Tiger Woods?
As Teal said what does that have to do with Tiger Woods, db? What Vick did is a crime, what has been alleged to have happened between Tiger and his wife isn't.
Rodster wrote:...what has been alleged to have happened between Tiger and his wife isn't.
Actually, it may be, depending on what actually happened. It could very well be that Tiger is not talking to police because what truly transpired could bring about charges.
And I believe there are many with knowledge of domestic violence that would find this attitude disturbing:
Rodster wrote:Whether his wife beat the crap out of him for cheating on her is their business.
Rodster wrote:...what has been alleged to have happened between Tiger and his wife isn't.
Actually, it may be, depending on what actually happened. It could very well be that Tiger is not talking to police because what truly transpired could bring about charges.
Exactly...DWI is a crime isn't it? What meds is he on? Is he allowed to drive on said meds? He did take out a public fire hydrant which IS a crime that he can be cited for. If all he did was leave his house and then show up at the hospital, you're right, none of our damn business. That's not what happened.
EZSnappin wrote:Can we just drop the Tiger thing and lament that Ronnie James Dio has stomach cancer? That's some heavy s*** for the metal dwarf to fight. Get well Dio! \m/
Yeah, that does suck. A friend of mine forwarded me the news via e-mail last weekend.
Take care,
PK
Hadn't heard about Dio...that does suck. Hope he's able to beat it.
Rodster wrote:...what has been alleged to have happened between Tiger and his wife isn't.
Actually, it may be, depending on what actually happened. It could very well be that Tiger is not talking to police because what truly transpired could bring about charges.
Exactly...DWI is a crime isn't it? What meds is he on? Is he allowed to drive on said meds? He did take out a public fire hydrant which IS a crime that he can be cited for. If all he did was leave his house and then show up at the hospital, you're right, none of our damn business. That's not what happened.
none of that is s*** you know, for one, and it's only pertinent to you if you're a law enforcement agent on that case, for another. Which means, if my math is correct, that you're 0-2 on the need to know scorecard.
JRod wrote:
Oh come on, Tiger had the image of being untouchable in every aspect of life.
Part of why he was so could was because his opponents crumbled in the 4th round. As a golfer, part of that was due to Tiger and how the others viewed that he was unbreakable.
Taken this incident as a whole, Tiger's no longer "untouchable". Not in terms of his wife doing anything to him, but that he's not the same "image created by Nike" fearsome golfer. What goes on off the field, also has an effect on the field. In golf, who you are off the field, is who you are on the field. It's a rare game because it is predominately a mental game.
All I'm saying is those opponents that play with Tiger on Sunday, aren't going to be as intimidated as they were because of this incident as a whole.
Since Tiger's "aura" was developed ON THE GOLF COURSE, I would be willing to bet this will have little to no effect on his competitors perception of Tiger or his game. What he does in his personal life and on the golf course are simply not inter-related and never have been. All that being said, I do not believe we will ever hear the real story behind this.
webdanzer wrote:
Actually, it may be, depending on what actually happened. It could very well be that Tiger is not talking to police because what truly transpired could bring about charges.
Exactly...DWI is a crime isn't it? What meds is he on? Is he allowed to drive on said meds? He did take out a public fire hydrant which IS a crime that he can be cited for. If all he did was leave his house and then show up at the hospital, you're right, none of our damn business. That's not what happened.
none of that is s*** you know, for one, and it's only pertinent to you if you're a law enforcement agent on that case, for another. Which means, if my math is correct, that you're 0-2 on the need to know scorecard.
And you notice how I put question marks at the end of my statements? That usually means that I don't know the answer to those questions.
You're 0-1 on the perception scoreboard...so I'm sure you can feel my winless pain. Not even to mention the fact that as someone who claims to not care, you sure post a lot about it.
JRod wrote:I didn't imply he should fight back. I don't know what you fucks are trying to insinuate... all I'm talking about is this...
In the clubhouse he will be viewed differently. Part of Tiger's arsenal was the fight that he intimidated his opponents. I don't see how the other golfers don't look upon him now and see a different Tiger.
No, he won't. He'll be looked at as exactly the same Tiger who coughed up the lead in the 4th round of this year's PGA.
JRod wrote:I didn't imply he should fight back. I don't know what you fucks are trying to insinuate... all I'm talking about is this...
In the clubhouse he will be viewed differently. Part of Tiger's arsenal was the fight that he intimidated his opponents. I don't see how the other golfers don't look upon him now and see a different Tiger.
No, he won't. He'll be looked at as exactly the same Tiger who coughed up the lead in the 4th round of this year's PGA.
I don't think so either. His mental game is unique. It's what separates him from the rest and what made him #1 for so long. This is an unnecessary distraction for sure and the longer he keeps in hibernation the worse the media will nag at him. Just come out, tell the story and go back to the part of your life that me you so good.
dbdynsty25 wrote:
Exactly...DWI is a crime isn't it? What meds is he on? Is he allowed to drive on said meds? He did take out a public fire hydrant which IS a crime that he can be cited for. If all he did was leave his house and then show up at the hospital, you're right, none of our damn business. That's not what happened.
none of that is s*** you know, for one, and it's only pertinent to you if you're a law enforcement agent on that case, for another. Which means, if my math is correct, that you're 0-2 on the need to know scorecard.
And you notice how I put question marks at the end of my statements? That usually means that I don't know the answer to those questions.
You're 0-1 on the perception scoreboard...so I'm sure you can feel my winless pain. Not even to mention the fact that as someone who claims to not care, you sure post a lot about it.
I post alot about it, not because of Tiger, but because of all the bullshit in this thread about having a 'right' to know, not to mention all the scenarios that are nothing more than conspiracy theories at this point, and the fact that it's none of anyone's damned business.
I know you put question marks at the end of your statements, but the statements, whether in question or not, are not even relevant.
What I care about is that people worry more about someone else's s*** than they do their own.
