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JRod wrote:Liverpool's bad form continues!!
Indeed. Torres should have tied it up with that left foot shot in the last 10 minutes (what a miss) but 1-1 would have been flattering as Chelsea were the better team. I think it's their title to lose.

Tottenham will fizzle out. City will not.
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Tottenham looked pretty irresistible to start the season, but they looked pretty aimless this weekend at Bolton without Modric and Defoe in the lineup. Their defensive injury crisis will eventually catch up to them too and keep them out of the top-4.

If I had to guess now, I think we'll see ManU and Chelsea fighting for the title, Arsenal-City go 3-4, and Liverpool try to hold off Tottenham for fifth.
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Naples39 wrote:Tottenham looked pretty irresistible to start the season, but they looked pretty aimless this weekend at Bolton without Modric and Defoe in the lineup. Their defensive injury crisis will eventually catch up to them too and keep them out of the top-4.

If I had to guess now, I think we'll see ManU and Chelsea fighting for the title, Arsenal-City go 3-4, and Liverpool try to hold off Tottenham for fifth.
You are forgetting City. They are strong. If they have a weakness it's on defense. Look out for this team in the transfer window.

My prediction for top 4 stands at...

1/2 Man U Chelsea. Too close to call right now.
3 - City
4 Liverpool.

Last year Liverpool always seemed to get goals to draw or win games. This year it's different. Torres needs more than Kuyt. They don't have wingers that are worth much. Gerrard and Torres can only do so much. This team is fragile and needs help but I don't see them getting players in January. And if injuries hit Gerrard or Torres, this team won't finish top 4.
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1. Chelsea
2. ManU
3. Arsenal
4. City
5. Liverpool

Will Vieira go back to Arsene's team in January?
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10spro wrote:1. Chelsea
2. ManU
3. Arsenal
4. City
5. Liverpool

Will Vieira go back to Arsene's team in January?
I think that's about right for now. Liverpool have got to come to terms with the fact that while they've struggled to find answers up front and on the wings their central defense has rotted from the inside out. They have the worst center halves of anyone in the running for the top. Depressing.
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JRod wrote:
Naples39 wrote:Tottenham looked pretty irresistible to start the season, but they looked pretty aimless this weekend at Bolton without Modric and Defoe in the lineup. Their defensive injury crisis will eventually catch up to them too and keep them out of the top-4.

If I had to guess now, I think we'll see ManU and Chelsea fighting for the title, Arsenal-City go 3-4, and Liverpool try to hold off Tottenham for fifth.
You are forgetting City. They are strong. If they have a weakness it's on defense. Look out for this team in the transfer window.
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Ok maybe this is a Scottish colloquialism, but what the hell is
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When used in reference to players, means that they are very fit indeed (presumably as a 'butchers dog' would get a lot of meat)

Can be used in reference to females as well....oop here in't North of England, 'fit' can also be used to mean 'attractive', but is unlikely to be used with the 'butcher's dog' phrase. More common usage would be 'fit as f***'.
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davet010 wrote:When used in reference to players, means that they are very fit indeed (presumably as a 'butchers dog' would get a lot of meat)

Can be used in reference to females as well....oop here in't North of England, 'fit' can also be used to mean 'attractive', but is unlikely to be used with the 'butcher's dog' phrase. More common usage would be 'fit as f***'.
We occasionally say 'fit as a butcher's dog' in reference to females in my bit of the north. Then again, we hung a monkey in my bit of the north too.
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They're advertising the Ukraine vs. England WC qualifier heavily on DirecTV.

It's like $25 or $30 PPV.

I can see some ex-pats from the UK maybe being interested but they've already qualified.

There can't be that many Ukranians in the US.

Anyways, the real thing next summer is going to be broadcast on ESPN and ABC so how do they figure people will pony up that kind of money for the qualifiers?
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wco81 wrote: There can't be that many Ukranians in the US.
At least one too many. :)
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RobVarak wrote:
wco81 wrote: There can't be that many Ukranians in the US.
At least one too many. :)
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wco81 wrote:They're advertising the Ukraine vs. England WC qualifier heavily on DirecTV.

It's like $25 or $30 PPV.

I can see some ex-pats from the UK maybe being interested but they've already qualified.
I haven't bothered looking into the take-up for this yet, but it's going to be interesting to see how many people in this country watch it tomorrow. The game is pay-per-view and only being broadcast on the Internet, since the original rights were with Setanta and the company selling them on behalf of the Ukrainian FA apparently decided against trying to get another TV company involved. Anyone signing up before Thursday paid £4.99, from then until Saturday it's £9.99, and tomorrow it'll cost £11.99 for the privilege of watching something that's of no real consequence to us.

I don't think I'll bother, somehow, especially since Football 365's take on how the match will play out online is probably spot-on.
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GB_Simo wrote:
davet010 wrote:When used in reference to players, means that they are very fit indeed (presumably as a 'butchers dog' would get a lot of meat)

Can be used in reference to females as well....oop here in't North of England, 'fit' can also be used to mean 'attractive', but is unlikely to be used with the 'butcher's dog' phrase. More common usage would be 'fit as f***'.
We occasionally say 'fit as a butcher's dog' in reference to females in my bit of the north. Then again, we hung a monkey in my bit of the north too.
I've never been quite sure whether that is apocryphal or not.
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So there seems to be some uproar about how the European WC playoffs seeding based on FIFA rankings.

Really a surprise that FIFA would try to make sure the bigger nations have an easier road to get to the WC over the "minnows?"
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wco81 wrote:So there seems to be some uproar about how the European WC playoffs seeding based on FIFA rankings.

Really a surprise that FIFA would try to make sure the bigger nations have an easier road to get to the WC over the "minnows?"
It is when earlier this year UEFA were categorical that they would NOT be seeded. Then suddenly they are faced with the prospect of some of the largest TV/revenue markets missing out, and hey presto ! It's seeded playoffs time !
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davet010 wrote:
GB_Simo wrote:
davet010 wrote:When used in reference to players, means that they are very fit indeed (presumably as a 'butchers dog' would get a lot of meat)

Can be used in reference to females as well....oop here in't North of England, 'fit' can also be used to mean 'attractive', but is unlikely to be used with the 'butcher's dog' phrase. More common usage would be 'fit as f***'.
We occasionally say 'fit as a butcher's dog' in reference to females in my bit of the north. Then again, we hung a monkey in my bit of the north too.
I've never been quite sure whether that is apocryphal or not.
Funnily enough, neither are we. Hartlepudlians generally acknowledge that its authenticity isn't what you'd call easily verifiable, but that then again, if the folk of any town were to do it, it makes sense that it'd be us lot. Hartlepool as it is today was once two towns, old Hartlepool and West Hartlepool, and the monkey business took place in old Hartlepool, where it's widely acknowledged that the residents are somehow different from us West lot.

Incidentally, a village near Peterhead lays claim to having done the exact same thing:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monkey_hanger
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davet010 wrote:
wco81 wrote:So there seems to be some uproar about how the European WC playoffs seeding based on FIFA rankings.

Really a surprise that FIFA would try to make sure the bigger nations have an easier road to get to the WC over the "minnows?"
It is when earlier this year UEFA were categorical that they would NOT be seeded. Then suddenly they are faced with the prospect of some of the largest TV/revenue markets missing out, and hey presto ! It's seeded playoffs time !
So many of the criticisms and suspicions against American sports, like the NBA, have been raised against futbol.
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Anyone know where you can watch the USA match online?
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New Zealand got a 0-0 draw in Bahrain, and only have to win the home leg a month from now to qualify.

If they do, I predict FIFA will make the qualification route out of Oceania a lot harder for the 2014 World Cup.
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Feanor wrote:New Zealand got a 0-0 draw in Bahrain, and only have to win the home leg a month from now to qualify.

If they do, I predict FIFA will make the qualification route out of Oceania a lot harder for the 2014 World Cup.
Not when there's votes on them there islands - why do you think Blatter ramped up the WC from 24 to 32 entrants, or that one of the V-Ps is Jack Warner, that corrupt retard from the mighty Trinidad and Tobago FA.

...and before you all start, it was actually an external audit report that picked out Warner, amongst others, for 'irregularities whereby tickets issued to them ended up in the hands of unauthorised persons' - ie, were touted.

And this is also the guy who after a friendly between Scotland and T&T, tried to get the cheque for the share of the gate receipts (it was in Scotland) made out to him personally, as opposed to the FA.

monkey see, monkey do - the FIFA mission statement.
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No need to explain Dave, I think we all know Jack Warner is an idiot.


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TheTruth wrote:Anyone know where you can watch the USA match online?
www.myp2p.eu or www.rojadirecta.org are likely your best bet, though you may need p2p streaming software.
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Jared wrote:
TheTruth wrote:Anyone know where you can watch the USA match online?
www.myp2p.eu or www.rojadirecta.org are likely your best bet, though you may need p2p streaming software.
This site lists that a stream will be available, but you never know until game time (extra software is usually not required for this site's streams).
http://www.channelsurfing.net/

EDIT: No luck at channelsurfing, but this is working for me at the moment with english commentary http://www.justin.tv/hatecore86
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Good to see Chile back in the big dance, while Argentina stays alive as my Boca man, Martin Palermo scores the winner in injury time against Peru. Maradona's squad still fails to impress me, the superstars just don't seem to gel together and play as a team.
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