Tiger Woods 2010

Rodster · Post by **Rodster** » Wed Jun 10, 2009 10:29 pm

toonarmy wrote:
DChaps wrote:After seeing all the impressions about bland presentation, camera angles, lack of atmosphere, etc., I assume that the Wii version does not have the features shown in this video?

http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=76905151875
The Wii version does have the real time weather. There is the option to turn on/off tournament atmosphere. I think the presentation is just fine. I usually skip through the cut scenes anyway so that I can get in as much actual golfing as possible.

So do I. So much so I have no inkling to buy the 360 version. The only other TW game I may pickup is the PC version, depending on the subscription price.

JRod · Post by **JRod** » Wed Jun 10, 2009 10:58 pm

This is why I think they should go to a more cartoonish look. I don't know any other way of describing it. It would be hot shots but it wouldn't be realistic. The Wii does tiger no favors so if it has the potential of being an eye-sore, it should compensate by having bolder colors, more EA's tennis game style of characters (not Hot Shots) but keeping the physics. I think that would eliminate all of this.

toonarmy · Post by **toonarmy** » Wed Jun 10, 2009 11:01 pm

JRod wrote:This is why I think they should go to a more cartoonish look. I don't know any other way of describing it. It would be hot shots but it wouldn't be realistic. The Wii does tiger no favors so if it has the potential of being an eye-sore, it should compensate by having bolder colors, more EA's tennis game style of characters (not Hot Shots) but keeping the physics. I think that would eliminate all of this.

Huh? The Wii version is far from an eye sore, and does have bold colors.

Slumberland · Post by **Slumberland** » Wed Jun 10, 2009 11:17 pm

I did a quick 18 at Banff Springs with Tiger, advanced swing and precision putting. Finished three under, had an excellent time, but expected to do worse... maybe it's an easy course. I'll be playing with a created character from here on in, most likely. I did bogey quite a few holes, mostly after missing mid-range putts, but I made a couple long ones too that felt GREAT and kept me beneath par. It was very windy, which I hope was the real-time weather kicking in.

Graphics are actually quite attractive, just a little chunky and jagged around the edges of the player model, but overall it looked better than I anticipated, and this is front projected onto a wall at around 90". Obviously it's no PS3 game, but the only thing lacking seemed to be definition as opposed to overall "look", if that makes sense.

One thing I'll have to do is stretch before playing this, because my back is barking and halfway through I thought I twinged an ab muscle.

10spro · Post by **10spro** » Wed Jun 10, 2009 11:18 pm

toonarmy wrote:
JRod wrote:This is why I think they should go to a more cartoonish look. I don't know any other way of describing it. It would be hot shots but it wouldn't be realistic. The Wii does tiger no favors so if it has the potential of being an eye-sore, it should compensate by having bolder colors, more EA's tennis game style of characters (not Hot Shots) but keeping the physics. I think that would eliminate all of this.
Huh? The Wii version is far from an eye sore, and does have bold colors.

I would have to agree. It's not at par (pun intended) with either the 360 or PS3 but other than the bland presentation, there's nothing wrong with the graphics and when played in a 50' inch plasma TV, this game just rocks.

JRod · Post by **JRod** » Wed Jun 10, 2009 11:47 pm

10spro wrote:
toonarmy wrote:
JRod wrote:This is why I think they should go to a more cartoonish look. I don't know any other way of describing it. It would be hot shots but it wouldn't be realistic. The Wii does tiger no favors so if it has the potential of being an eye-sore, it should compensate by having bolder colors, more EA's tennis game style of characters (not Hot Shots) but keeping the physics. I think that would eliminate all of this.
Huh? The Wii version is far from an eye sore, and does have bold colors.
I would have to agree. It's not at par (pun intended) with either the 360 or PS3 but other than the bland presentation, there's nothing wrong with the graphics and when played in a 50' inch plasma TV, this game just rocks.

Kind of important word missed...potential.

toonarmy · Post by **toonarmy** » Wed Jun 10, 2009 11:50 pm

JRod wrote:
10spro wrote:
toonarmy wrote: Huh? The Wii version is far from an eye sore, and does have bold colors.
I would have to agree. It's not at par (pun intended) with either the 360 or PS3 but other than the bland presentation, there's nothing wrong with the graphics and when played in a 50' inch plasma TV, this game just rocks.
Kind of important word missed...potential.

Then WTF are you trying to say? You're not making much sense.

Rodster · Post by **Rodster** » Wed Jun 10, 2009 11:55 pm

toonarmy wrote:
JRod wrote:
10spro wrote: I would have to agree. It's not at par (pun intended) with either the 360 or PS3 but other than the bland presentation, there's nothing wrong with the graphics and when played in a 50' inch plasma TV, this game just rocks.
Kind of important word missed...potential.
Then WTF are you trying to say? You're not making much sense.

Because he's probably trolling. Nothing unusual this time of year.

dbdynsty25 · Post by **dbdynsty25** » Thu Jun 11, 2009 2:24 am

JRod's just taking time away from his MLB Steroids blog.

pigpen81 · Post by **pigpen81** » Thu Jun 11, 2009 8:48 am

Wohoo...I shot a 70 at Pebble Beach with Ian Poulter.

This time, I didn't use the green grid.

Major fun.

I had 2 eagles....one on a 80 yard pitch that hit the green, rolled back 10 feet and into the cup.

pk500 · Post by **pk500** » Thu Jun 11, 2009 8:59 am

I drained a 30-foot putt last night at the bar into a pint glass laying on the ground on my first attempt, and I don't golf. Hit the side of the glass on my second attempt just to prove the first wasn't a fluke. Everyone was impressed, and I got a free PBR pint out of it.

So, does this mean I should try Tiger with Wii Motion Plus?

Very good, very detailed impressions in this thread, boys.

Take care,
PK

Badgun · Post by **Badgun** » Thu Jun 11, 2009 9:22 am

sportdan30 wrote:Smiley's initial Wii impressions:

I just finished 27 holes (front nine on Banff Springs & full 18 on Pebble Beach), and I'm definitely starting to feel it (in my muscles). I have never played a more satisfying Tiger Woods experience than this one. I know many people will still look at it for its poor graphics, but I was having too much fun to notice. I have a natural draw in my swing (according to this game), so I found a way to use the Advanced Fade to straighten everything out just fine (I'm sure I could use the Club tuner, but this seems to work great). The Precision Putting is great. I stopped using Putt Preview after the first 3 holes, because it was much more gratifying to nail a putt by just reading the green (or the grid, in my case). Chip shots are my worst shots, by far. I can never get the right strength on my swing, so that's something I need to work on.

I've been playing both the Wii & 360 versions every year, and I always turn away from the Wii version (because it just didn't feel right). Well, those days are gone. I can't imagine playing this game with analog sticks again. This game just gives me an experience that I've been missing in golf games, in general. I'm going to try switching my swing to Advanced, and see if I'm still singing the same tune.

I got both the 360 and the Wii version and while the Wii version is fun and very much feels like golf, I think I will play the 360 version a lot more. The Wii Motion plus is indeed everything it is supposed to be and I think Nintendo or some third party should take this thing one more step and sell a weighted peripheral that is maybe 2 feet long and has the weight of a real golf club. Almost like one of those swing helpers that are like 2 feet long and have a weight on the end. Again, while it does feel like golf, I still feel kind of detached swinging a weightless remote. I found myself only swinging 70-80% most of the time and had to make myself take the swing back further. My first round was an 81 in one of the one day tournaments and I guess I shouldn't be surprised that on day one with a brand new game, someone had shot 52. I'll play the Wii version, but to be honest the graphics are quite ugly compared to the 360 and I really enjoy the feel that there are other people playing the game at the same time as me. You get a lot more updates on the 360 version than you do with the Wii version and it might be my imagination but I swear the 360 version's commentary is more robust .

Anyway, that's my take on the Wii version. Motion plus is great, graphics are not, but if I had some weight in my hands I think I could enjoy it a lot more.

10spro · Post by **10spro** » Thu Jun 11, 2009 10:11 am

I much prefer a responsive game with motion plus that adapts at my swing and movement that I throw at it than having mediocre graphics. Visually, Tigers' face may not be as accurate or the crease of the shirt not as sharp as the more potent console machines, but the novelty of the controller was and is the main selling point for me in this game.

Trying to fade or draw a ball is fun but I am being a perfectionist now. I don't want to draw a ball so much so that it may land in a sand trap or a rough, but with a certain degree of my club open and proper standing posture as I make contact with my swing. I find myself taking my sweet time before I hit the next ball, I double check things now most noticeably the angle of my club, something I never did before and hoped that a good swing would be good enough.

Love the putting and again playing this so far on a big screen TV just erases many of the visual complains some people have out there.

Teal · Post by **Teal** » Thu Jun 11, 2009 10:20 am

Well, since this a Tiger Woods '10 thread, and not a Tiger Woods Wii '10 thread (I had to remind myself of that by looking back a few pages

), let me weigh in and say that I love the new Tiger for 360. I don't have a Wii, and honestly, have no interest in one, or in a real swing thingy. If I want to feel like I'm actually swinging a club...I'll, um, go outside and swing a real club at a real ball on a real course. (Something I don't even really enjoy doing...)

But I digress...

The course graphics are top notch. The player models haven't changed, nor have their base animations, and that's something that could be worked on as they continue to *tweak* the core game. Tweaking is mostly what has been done to the Tiger 360 game, and I must say, it's paying off really well. I love the new putting system. You really do have to read greens and think about your putt.

I love the inclusion of the US Open, and the Live Tourneys. I know there's been some bitching about the new challenges, but I prefer these to the old ones. Real scenarios are more attractive to me than 'how close can you get to the pin from this beach location' stuff.

Haven't had a ton of time with it, but I've quite enjoyed what I've played...again, on the 360 (y'know, one of those OTHER systems that Tiger is on...

)

toonarmy · Post by **toonarmy** » Thu Jun 11, 2009 10:25 am

I'm playing the Wii version on a 50" HDTV and have to say this is one of the prettier Wii games. The developer did a great job with the shading to allow the user to see all the undulations and such on the courses. I normally get at least two versions of TW each year (one console, one handheld), but this year I have zero desire to play anything but the Wii version. The gameplay has me hooked. I shot 9 rounds in career mode yesterday and some exhibitions, and shockingly my arm feels great. I thought for sure I would wake up with pain in my arm. I plan on shooting about 10 more rounds today then play some Grand Slam Tennis. I love how fast I can shoot a round since the game moves pretty fast.

TCrouch · Post by **TCrouch** » Thu Jun 11, 2009 10:34 am

Teal wrote:If I want to feel like I'm actually swinging a club...I'll, um, go outside and swing a real club at a real ball on a real course. (Something I don't even really enjoy doing...)

Nothin' but love for ya Teal, but that's a ridiculous argument. You could say the same thing about any video game in the world. I've played PC golf sims since "true swing" was created (I actually helped develop it when I did some work for Sierra and Headgate, so I've always loved that), and console sims with 3-button configs as well as analog sticks. Any time you have a control scheme that feels fresh, it's definitely going to be the one that people go after in droves.

But that argument could be made that "if I wanted to play football, I'd go to a park. If I wanted to shoot a gun, I can go to the range". It's silly.

Teal · Post by **Teal** » Thu Jun 11, 2009 10:35 am

Mix has the Wii version, so I'll probably drive over to his place and see what all the hubub is about. I'm glad that EA is finally starting to figure out the Wii stuff and get it right, for all you Wii owners; it would just be a short lived thing for me-I'm old school...I like my controller and buttons...

10spro · Post by **10spro** » Thu Jun 11, 2009 10:42 am

TCrouch wrote:
Teal wrote:If I want to feel like I'm actually swinging a club...I'll, um, go outside and swing a real club at a real ball on a real course. (Something I don't even really enjoy doing...)
Nothin' but love for ya Teal, but that's a ridiculous argument. You could say the same thing about any video game in the world. I've played PC golf sims since "true swing" was created (I actually helped develop it when I did some work for Sierra and Headgate, so I've always loved that), and console sims with 3-button configs as well as analog sticks. Any time you have a control scheme that feels fresh, it's definitely going to be the one that people go after in droves.

But that argument could be made that "if I wanted to play football, I'd go to a park. If I wanted to shoot a gun, I can go to the range". It's silly.

What I thought initially when someone posted the other day, 'Damn, I can't afford another console'. This is virtual fun at home at its best. Is this game a Wii seller? Well, it's a good start but if you want to invest in a Wii, it would be much economical choice than spending over $1000 in good clubs, a separate driver and putter and oh yes those ever rising green fees. Oh and the carry bag, woods, balls...

Teal · Post by **Teal** » Thu Jun 11, 2009 10:42 am

TCrouch wrote:
Teal wrote:If I want to feel like I'm actually swinging a club...I'll, um, go outside and swing a real club at a real ball on a real course. (Something I don't even really enjoy doing...)
Nothin' but love for ya Teal, but that's a ridiculous argument. You could say the same thing about any video game in the world. I've played PC golf sims since "true swing" was created (I actually helped develop it when I did some work for Sierra and Headgate, so I've always loved that), and console sims with 3-button configs as well as analog sticks. Any time you have a control scheme that feels fresh, it's definitely going to be the one that people go after in droves.

But that argument could be made that "if I wanted to play football, I'd go to a park. If I wanted to shoot a gun, I can go to the range". It's silly.

Nah, it's not silly, Terry, primarily because it's my personal opinion. You can do what you like-it's just not what I like. What's silly about that?

But I'll say this-if I wanted to *actually* go through the motions of throwing a football, I'd just go throw a real football. If I wanted to actually pull a trigger and feed bullets into a gun, I'd go shoot a gun. The point being (again, for me) that I play games to sit and relax, not wave my arms wildly around. Or mimick what I have to do in real life to get the same results. I guess it's the reason I've never stuck with a steering wheel. I'm just not a fan of the motion controllers at this point, other than a mild diversion every once in awhile. They'll never really be a good replacement for my old controller.

Spooky · Post by **Spooky** » Thu Jun 11, 2009 10:45 am

Disc Golf on the Wii version is quite fun. After a round I was able to start making birdies here and there. That mode could become addiciting.

toonarmy · Post by **toonarmy** » Thu Jun 11, 2009 10:49 am

Spooky wrote:Disc Golf on the Wii version is quite fun. After a round I was able to start making birdies here and there. That mode could become addiciting.

I suck at real frisbee and I suck at disc golf. Someone needs to come over and teach me how to throw a damn frisbee straight

.

Naples39 · Post by **Naples39** » Thu Jun 11, 2009 10:51 am

As for the motion control v controller debate, the question is simple.

When playing video game X, do motion controls make the game more enjoyable to play? All other questions, no matter how phrased, are irrelevant.

That said, there is nothing wrong with reaching a 'yes' or 'no' for any given game to the above question.

pk500 · Post by **pk500** » Thu Jun 11, 2009 10:52 am

toonarmy wrote:
Spooky wrote:Disc Golf on the Wii version is quite fun. After a round I was able to start making birdies here and there. That mode could become addiciting.
I suck at real frisbee and I suck at disc golf. Someone needs to come over and teach me how to throw a damn frisbee straight .

That makes two of us. I can shoot a hockey puck, street hockey ball and lacrosse ball at targets or play pass/catch all day with accuracy, but a frisbee? I'm horrible. Too bad, because it's fun!

Take care,
PK

XXXIV · Post by **XXXIV** » Thu Jun 11, 2009 10:52 am

I would like the 360 version alot more if I didnt hit the fairway on every single hole on my first round. ..Though that didnt prevent me from shooting 6? over.

It is growing on me.

10spro · Post by **10spro** » Thu Jun 11, 2009 10:53 am

toonarmy wrote:
Spooky wrote:Disc Golf on the Wii version is quite fun. After a round I was able to start making birdies here and there. That mode could become addiciting.
I suck at real frisbee and I suck at disc golf. Someone needs to come over and teach me how to throw a damn frisbee straight .

It was fun for me initially and I got bored pretty fast. Rather golf with Tiger.