The E3 Thread Jun 2-4

Murph · Post by **Murph** » Mon Jun 01, 2009 7:25 pm

bdoughty wrote:It does mention the UFC exclusive but what about the individual fighters? I did not see that mentioned. They could go out and pay for a bunch of individual fighters and wait for the license to end.

EA would do that too.

Rodster · Post by **Rodster** » Mon Jun 01, 2009 7:26 pm

The BBC is saying the PS3 Slim will be released later this year instead of being announced at E3.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/8076573.stm

Spooky · Post by **Spooky** » Mon Jun 01, 2009 8:13 pm

Danimal wrote:
F308GTB wrote:
Danimal wrote:I'm sorry but that motion camera or system wtf it's code named looked amazing. If it actually works I'd say it's a big break through in gaming.

I'm just not sure what to say about what I just saw. Wow
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WSWERIJvve8

I thought "cool" when I watched, but I can't help feeling it may be overhyped. Recall last year when Microsoft Lips got a lot of hype about being able to use any song, but that fell flat on its face...
I hear you which is why I said if it works.

But that thing with the boy and taking the note and then moving the water. Imagine the MMO that could be made.

Absolutely NO way that will work as advertised. Just not possible. It will be a flop.

Spooky · Post by **Spooky** » Mon Jun 01, 2009 8:16 pm

Leadfoot5 wrote:The Beatles:Rock Band E3 Trailer has got to be one of the best trailers I've ever seen for a video game. Well done.

http://xbox360.ign.com/dor/objects/1429 ... rl_e3.html

Wow! No sh*t. That was cool.

greggsand · Post by **greggsand** » Mon Jun 01, 2009 9:28 pm

Spooky wrote:
Danimal wrote:
F308GTB wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WSWERIJvve8

I thought "cool" when I watched, but I can't help feeling it may be overhyped. Recall last year when Microsoft Lips got a lot of hype about being able to use any song, but that fell flat on its face...
I hear you which is why I said if it works.

But that thing with the boy and taking the note and then moving the water. Imagine the MMO that could be made.
Absolutely NO way that will work as advertised. Just not possible. It will be a flop.

Eh I don't know, it looks like watch those cute chicks use it will worth the pricey of admission...

webdanzer · Post by **webdanzer** » Mon Jun 01, 2009 9:37 pm

Spooky wrote:
Leadfoot5 wrote:The Beatles:Rock Band E3 Trailer has got to be one of the best trailers I've ever seen for a video game. Well done.

http://xbox360.ign.com/dor/objects/1429 ... rl_e3.html
Wow! No sh*t. That was cool.

Awesome! Loved it!

Danimal · Post by **Danimal** » Mon Jun 01, 2009 10:12 pm

Spooky wrote: Absolutely NO way that will work as advertised. Just not possible. It will be a flop.

I really hope you're wrong but I am willing to bet you're not.

Spooky · Post by **Spooky** » Mon Jun 01, 2009 10:21 pm

Danimal wrote:
Spooky wrote: Absolutely NO way that will work as advertised. Just not possible. It will be a flop.
I really hope you're wrong but I am willing to bet you're not.

Don't get me wrong...I'd love for it to be successful and work as advertised. But I am betting that the first batch of games will be awful and the second wave not much better and it will flop.

F308GTB · Post by **F308GTB** » Mon Jun 01, 2009 10:49 pm

Spooky wrote:
Danimal wrote:
Spooky wrote: Absolutely NO way that will work as advertised. Just not possible. It will be a flop.
I really hope you're wrong but I am willing to bet you're not.
Don't get me wrong...I'd love for it to be successful and work as advertised. But I am betting that the first batch of games will be awful and the second wave not much better and it will flop.

Like the uh, Eye Toy? Gimmick peripheral that had a couple of lousy games.

Danimal · Post by **Danimal** » Mon Jun 01, 2009 11:11 pm

Good read on motion tech from MS

http://www.time.com/time/arts/article/0 ... 08,00.html

I'd say it's not an Eye toy

greggsand · Post by **greggsand** » Tue Jun 02, 2009 1:04 am

Danimal wrote:Good read on motion tech from MS

http://www.time.com/time/arts/article/0 ... 08,00.html

I'd say it's not an Eye toy

That's a pretty intriguing article. Well written. (edit:I remember seeing intriguing articles about PS3's Home as well)

greggsand · Post by **greggsand** » Tue Jun 02, 2009 1:17 am

Spooky wrote:
Leadfoot5 wrote:The Beatles:Rock Band E3 Trailer has got to be one of the best trailers I've ever seen for a video game. Well done.

http://xbox360.ign.com/dor/objects/1429 ... rl_e3.html
Wow! No sh*t. That was cool.

The 360 dashboard "features section" has another trailer showing actual gameplay. 2 words: Rooftop Concert!

Naples39 · Post by **Naples39** » Tue Jun 02, 2009 9:46 am

greggsand wrote:
Danimal wrote:Good read on motion tech from MS

http://www.time.com/time/arts/article/0 ... 08,00.html

I'd say it's not an Eye toy
That's a pretty intriguing article. Well written. (edit:I remember seeing intriguing articles about PS3's Home as well)

Sounds cool, but I still wonder.

Even if we assume the technology works flawlessly, will holding an imaginary steering wheel ever 'feel right,' as opposed to an actual wheel you grip with your hands and get force feedback? Will gas/braking work believably?

I've also heard that you can use props, such as just holding a stick and swinging it like a golf club and the system can detect your swing. How will that compare to Tiger Woods Wii with Wii Motion+? Will come of the worse I suspect.

I think it seems very cool, but Wii has been a big disappointment for me, and until I see full games providing an experience above and beyond that possible through 25+ years of controller evolution I remain slightly skeptical.

Teal · Post by **Teal** » Tue Jun 02, 2009 10:42 am

The camera thingy was impressive, if it's to be believed, but I'll cross that bridge when I get to it. More to the point...

Crackdown 2, Modern Warfare 2, L4D2 (CHAINSAWS!)-who gives a @#$% about cameras?!?!?!?

webdanzer · Post by **webdanzer** » Tue Jun 02, 2009 11:31 am

Naples39 wrote:...until I see full games providing an experience above and beyond that possible through 25+ years of controller evolution I remain slightly skeptical.

I'm with you on this, Naples. I mean, waving my hand around to cycle through images certainly doesn't seem more efficient then pressing left or right on a d-pad or analog stick.

Also, (though I do bike while gaming sometimes) most of the time I game I'm chilling out, hoping to relax a little, and it's often late at night with the rest of the family asleep. I don't want to be gaming like this:

Teal · Post by **Teal** » Tue Jun 02, 2009 11:55 am

webdanzer wrote:
Naples39 wrote:...until I see full games providing an experience above and beyond that possible through 25+ years of controller evolution I remain slightly skeptical.
I'm with you on this, Naples. I mean, waving my hand around to cycle through images certainly doesn't seem more efficient then pressing left or right on a d-pad or analog stick.

Also, (though I do bike while gaming sometimes) most of the time I game I'm chilling out, hoping to relax a little, and it's often late at night with the rest of the family asleep. I don't want to be gaming like this:

Yeah, that's not my cup 'o' tea, either, most of the time. I think it would work as a great addition to a controller, but not as a replacement. The thing with me and a controller is, if the game is good enough, I forget that I have a controller in hand.
I was much more intrigued by what Molyneaux showed off than the 'cat on a hot tin roof' calisthenics of the girl in the gif-that just sort of annoyed me. I liked the 'painting' thing, too. But if I want to play basketball and get a workout, I'll go outside and shoot hoops.

Rodster · Post by **Rodster** » Tue Jun 02, 2009 12:19 pm

I'm sure this tech will be shoe horned into as many games as possible. Given the right game like golf, tennis and maybe a FPS this could make the game better.

F308GTB · Post by **F308GTB** » Tue Jun 02, 2009 12:27 pm

Naples39 wrote:I think it seems very cool, but Wii has been a big disappointment for me, and until I see full games providing an experience above and beyond that possible through 25+ years of controller evolution I remain slightly skeptical.

There are some games on the Wii that are great with non-traditional controllers. All the light-gun style games are great. Currently playing Madworld which couples in nicely with motion control. Boom Blox is also a champ at this. Smart motion control is good. Gimmicky stuff? Not so good...

greggsand · Post by **greggsand** » Tue Jun 02, 2009 12:40 pm

I've had friends buy a Wii just for the Wii-Fit. If the camera (and an exercise-game) can come close to that, I can see it doing well.

Danimal · Post by **Danimal** » Tue Jun 02, 2009 2:13 pm

The camera isn't targeted at us pers say but any game that can get me off the couch is good by me.

EA Sports Active is my new addiction and that thing sold 600k in 2 weeks. Imagine something like that with no controllers.

Anyway enough on the camera, L4D2 is looking good.

EZSnappin · Post by **EZSnappin** » Tue Jun 02, 2009 2:39 pm

It'sa Mario! 2D co-op and Super Mario Galaxy 2. Very cool (though I suspect SMG2 might not hit this year).

3rd-person Metroid looked promising as well.

Brando70 · Post by **Brando70** » Tue Jun 02, 2009 2:58 pm

webdanzer wrote:
Spooky wrote:
Leadfoot5 wrote:The Beatles:Rock Band E3 Trailer has got to be one of the best trailers I've ever seen for a video game. Well done.

http://xbox360.ign.com/dor/objects/1429 ... rl_e3.html
Wow! No sh*t. That was cool.
Awesome! Loved it!

Yeah, that was much cooler than I expected. It would be awesome if one of the levels was the rooftop concert.

Danimal · Post by **Danimal** » Tue Jun 02, 2009 4:00 pm

Nintendo Presser...YAWN as usual.

Sony presser

- MAG..Cool
- Too much time on PSP and the new one.
- Uncharted 2, way awesome.
- Mod Nation I guess ok if your a LBP fan.
- Motion controller which looks kind of yawn inducing after MS stuff yesterday
- New Ico and GoW3 cool.

pk500 · Post by **pk500** » Tue Jun 02, 2009 4:06 pm

Nintendo can bore itself all the way to the bank, considering it dominates the sales charts. Somebody out there must like the Big N's stuff.

The new Wii Fit Plus and Metroid games will fly off the shelves. The pulse detector looks odd, but I like the Wii MotionPlus add-on. It should address some of the motion-detection accuracy issues present in many current Wii sports games.

If Wii MotionPlus could recognize punches in a boxing game instantly, I would buy that game in a nano-second. There's way too much lag between your physical movement and the action on the screen in Wii Sports boxing and Punch-Out, which hurts both games for me.

The upcoming Gladiator title for Wii is supposed to use Wii MotionPlus, which could make that a really cool, violent fighting game with a historic theme. Definitely not one for the kiddies.

Take care,
PK

Spooky · Post by **Spooky** » Tue Jun 02, 2009 4:20 pm

pk500 wrote:Nintendo can bore itself all the way to the bank, considering it dominates the sales charts. Somebody out there must like the Big N's stuff.

The new Wii Fit Plus and Metroid games will fly off the shelves. The pulse detector looks odd, but I like the Wii MotionPlus add-on. It should address some of the motion-detection accuracy issues present in many current Wii sports games.

If Wii MotionPlus could recognize punches in a boxing game instantly, I would buy that game in a nano-second. There's way too much lag between your physical movement and the action on the screen in Wii Sports boxing and Punch-Out, which hurts both games for me.

The upcoming Gladiator title for Wii is supposed to use Wii MotionPlus, which could make that a really cool, violent fighting game with a historic theme. Definitely not one for the kiddies.

Take care,
PK

I have no doubt there will be a boxing game that will utilize the motion plus feature well. It's a no brainer. I betcha anything that EA has a Fight Night in the works for the motion plus.