Tiger Woods 2010

[DivotMaker]

Divot...Any place to get me free shipping?

No idea....sorry.

[DivotMaker]

When will we start to hear about the PC version?

In another month or so possibly.....sorry, EA is keep a tight lid on the PC version.

[Rodster]

Divot...Any place to get me free shipping?

No idea....sorry.

Try Amazon.com or Newegg, both usually offer free shipping on most video games.

[DivotMaker]

I was VERY disappointed in last year's Wii version. I'm a little leary of IGN's opinion because last year I believe they said the swing was 1-1 and it was not. Plus, despite featuring "All Play" it was implemented so poorly that it was actually one of the few games my kids *couldn't play* (they had played the console version on the easiest setting from the time they were 3 with no problems). I love the concept of a Wii golf game, even with pedestrian graphics, but IMO the gameplay in past Tiger Wii games paled in comparison to even Wii Sports golf. Needless to say, the Wii version is not a day 1 purchase for me but a definite rental and probable purchase if it's even 3/4 as good as its potential.

The PS3 version though is a probable day 1 purchase for me. I've really enjoyed the last 2 years on the X360.

TW10 for Wii IS 1:1 even the early beta version I played in February....EA has finally addressed the swing in TW10 and it was very satisfying. Unfortunately, I don't have a Wii or it would be a day one purchase for me.....

[Rodster]

When will we start to hear about the PC version?

In another month or so possibly.....sorry, EA is keep a tight lid on the PC version.

Has EA confirmed whether the PC version will only be sold via their website for direct download or from Steam?

[DivotMaker]

When will we start to hear about the PC version?

In another month or so possibly.....sorry, EA is keep a tight lid on the PC version.

Has EA confirmed whether the PC version will only be sold via their website for direct download or from Steam?

Nope. And I cannot comment on any part of the game just yet. Sorry.

[JRod]

The Wii course list is now official

New for 10:
1. Banff Springs ( Stanley Thompson 18 )
2. Bethpage ( Black )
3. Hazeltine National C.C.
4. Oakmont C.C.
5. Pinehurst ( Course #2 )
6. Torrey Pines G.C. ( South Course )
7. Turnberry ( Ailsa Course )

Returning from 09:
8. Bay Hill Club & Lodge
9. Cog Hill Golf & CC ( Dubsdread Course )
10. Doral ( Blue Monster )
11. East Lake C.C.
12. Fancourt ( Links Course )
13. Firestone C.C. ( South Course )
14. Gary Player C.C.
15. Harbor Town Golf Links
16. The K Club Golf Resort
17. Kiawah Island Golf Resort ( Ocean Course )
18. Pebble Beach Golf Links
19. Riviera C.C.
20. Sheshan Golf Club
21. St Andrews Links ( Old Course )
22. TPC Boston
23. TPC Sawgrass
24. TPC Scottsdale
25. Wentworth ( West Course )
26. Westchester C.C.
27. Wolf Creek G.C.

Quite an impressive lineup!

By new, they mean courses that weren't in 09. Out of the "new" courses I think on Banff hasn't made an appearance in years. The rest were in the game on some level. Torry Pines might be the only other one that hasn't been in the game in years, I can't remember.

Bethpage was in when it hosted the open or a year later so that was a good 5 years ago. Anyway it's kind of tricky promo work to call these new courses. They were in the game just not recently and haven't been updated for the consoles.

I wish the Wii version would have scrapped the next gen graphics and done everything like it's tennis game. I think would have made the game look more solid. Even if the physics was the same just have Wii'ish graphics.

Too bad the next gen consoles won't see all those courses.

[DivotMaker]

By new, they mean courses that weren't in 09. Out of the "new" courses I think on Banff hasn't made an appearance in years. The rest were in the game on some level. Torry Pines might be the only other one that hasn't been in the game in years, I can't remember.

Banff, Hazeltine, and Oakmont have NEVER appeared in an EA Sports or TW Golf game. And don't dismiss the fact that even though courses in 09 are re-appearing in TW10, they all require licensing updates which are anything but cheap.....

[J_Cauthen]

By new, they mean courses that weren't in 09. Out of the "new" courses I think on Banff hasn't made an appearance in years. The rest were in the game on some level. Torry Pines might be the only other one that hasn't been in the game in years, I can't remember.

I can't remember Torrey Pines, Oakmont, or Hazeltine ever being in a Tiger Woods game on the consoles, but I wasn't heavy into the console versions until 2006 hit for the XBox

I wish the Wii version would have scrapped the next gen graphics and done everything like it's tennis game. I think would have made the game look more solid. Even if the physics was the same just have Wii'ish graphics.

I'm still pretty ignorant about the Wii, let alone its games. Nothing has caught my eye on the Wii until this. Virtually every previewer comes away genuinely impressed. I think it's a combination of the Wii Motion Plus and the 'nuther year on the learning curve implementation of a 1:1 swing. I'm impressed when I see previewers hitting a controlled punch shot by simply reducing the swing arc, and furthermore, having the golfer actually check his swing when the foreswing stops with the Wii Motion Plus!

[Diablo25]

By new, they mean courses that weren't in 09. Out of the "new" courses I think on Banff hasn't made an appearance in years. The rest were in the game on some level. Torry Pines might be the only other one that hasn't been in the game in years, I can't remember.

I can't remember Torrey Pines, Oakmont, or Hazeltine ever being in a Tiger Woods game on the consoles, but I wasn't heavy into the console versions until 2006 hit for the XBox

I wish the Wii version would have scrapped the next gen graphics and done everything like it's tennis game. I think would have made the game look more solid. Even if the physics was the same just have Wii'ish graphics.

I'm still pretty ignorant about the Wii, let alone its games. Nothing has caught my eye on the Wii until this. Virtually every previewer comes away genuinely impressed. I think it's a combination of the Wii Motion Plus and the 'nuther year on the learning curve implementation of a 1:1 swing. I'm impressed when I see previewers hitting a controlled punch shot by simply reducing the swing arc, and furthermore, having the golfer actually check his swing when the foreswing stops with the Wii Motion Plus!

Please be quiet....you are making me want to get a Wii just for this game!

[Spooky]

I wish the Wii version would have scrapped the next gen graphics and done everything like it's tennis game. I think would have made the game look more solid. Even if the physics was the same just have Wii'ish graphics.

COMPLETELY AGREE!

[DivotMaker]

I wish the Wii version would have scrapped the next gen graphics and done everything like it's tennis game. I think would have made the game look more solid. Even if the physics was the same just have Wii'ish graphics.

COMPLETELY AGREE!

Next Gen graphics? Um, okay.

I don't know....EA is getting hammered for their new graphics for Madden10 on the Wii.....and I don;t think EA would want to "me too" something similar to HSG or Wii Sports Golf....

[Naples39]

What graphics should be redone? The courses? The players?

In a tennis game, the players are the focus, but in golf, the courses are the stars.

I was under the impression that the reason we have such a big course list is exactly because the graphics are based on PS2 tiger games, and I don't think cartoonish graphics work for golf courses.

As I have stated in the GST thread, I am happy with the way it looks on Wii, but for TW, I see more negatives than positives for switching to that art style.

[J_Cauthen]

I'm afraid my Wii system n00bism has me at a disadvantage here... what is meant by Wii graphics? Is there certain trademark characteristics that qualify Wii graphics as kosher?

One of the things that has impressed me about the screenshots of the Wii version of TW 10 is their realistic look, at least as realistic as a 480p game can look. I'm not all that into anime'ish, cutesy golfers, although I can tolerate them if the gameplay is up to snuff. However, I prefer to play with a player whose appearance I can alter to make them look more like myself. I get more drawn into the game when I can do this.

Does it have anything to do with the course graphics? I honestly can't find fault with any of the screen shots or videos I've seen. I don't know how you could get a much more natural look with 480p?

[bdoughty]

First you have to replace "next gen graphics with last gen, slightly enhanced PS2 graphics."

Two different art styles

So we are talking games like TW10 and Virtua Tennis 3. Trying to keep a realistic style.







The other graphics being referred to are in games like Madden 10 and EA Sports Tennis.

[J_Cauthen]

First you have to replace "next gen graphics with last gen, slightly enhanced PS2 graphics."

Two different art styles

So we are talking games like TW10 and Virtua Tennis 3. Trying to keep a realistic style.

The other graphics being referred to are in games like Madden 10 and EA Sports Tennis.

Okay, that's very helpful... I see exactly what you mean now. Put me down for preferring images 1 and 2, over 3 and 4. I could play Grand Slam Tennis with that style, but not Madden. Heck, that characature presentation of McEnroe suits his brattish nature... I think I would get a kick out of playing it!

[JRod]

By new, they mean courses that weren't in 09. Out of the "new" courses I think on Banff hasn't made an appearance in years. The rest were in the game on some level. Torry Pines might be the only other one that hasn't been in the game in years, I can't remember.

Banff, Hazeltine, and Oakmont have NEVER appeared in an EA Sports or TW Golf game. And don't dismiss the fact that even though courses in 09 are re-appearing in TW10, they all require licensing updates which are anything but cheap.....

I was off by one...big deal.

You can keep saying they need to update the courses and get the licenses but it's just marketing spin by EA. I'm not going to give them credit for things that they should do and you can come up with excuses like it's not cheap or they have to get licensing. And let's not forget business that cost is being passed off to consumers in some way. So forgive me while I don't shed a tear for EA Sports who have to pay to get a license.

I wonder how many of these courses know that Tiger is only game in town and milk EA Sports because of that. They know EA has to pay.

[JRod]

I wish the Wii version would have scrapped the next gen graphics and done everything like it's tennis game. I think would have made the game look more solid. Even if the physics was the same just have Wii'ish graphics.

COMPLETELY AGREE!

Next Gen graphics? Um, okay.

I don't know....EA is getting hammered for their new graphics for Madden10 on the Wii.....and I don;t think EA would want to "me too" something similar to HSG or Wii Sports Golf....

That's because it's madden.

By next-gen I just meant PS3/360 where they are going to have better graphics.

Maybe even the same courses but scrap the lifelike golfers and put Wii looking players.

[bdoughty]

I wonder how many of these courses know that Tiger is only game in town and milk EA Sports because of that. They know EA has to pay.

I am guessing ZERO. I doubt courses think about these kind of things.

[bdoughty]

I wish the Wii version would have scrapped the next gen graphics

By next-gen I just meant PS3/360 where they are going to have better graphics.

[DivotMaker]

By new, they mean courses that weren't in 09. Out of the "new" courses I think on Banff hasn't made an appearance in years. The rest were in the game on some level. Torry Pines might be the only other one that hasn't been in the game in years, I can't remember.

Banff, Hazeltine, and Oakmont have NEVER appeared in an EA Sports or TW Golf game. And don't dismiss the fact that even though courses in 09 are re-appearing in TW10, they all require licensing updates which are anything but cheap.....

I was off by one...big deal.

You can keep saying they need to update the courses and get the licenses but it's just marketing spin by EA. I'm not going to give them credit for things that they should do and you can come up with excuses like it's not cheap or they have to get licensing. And let's not forget business that cost is being passed off to consumers in some way. So forgive me while I don't shed a tear for EA Sports who have to pay to get a license.

I wonder how many of these courses know that Tiger is only game in town and milk EA Sports because of that. They know EA has to pay.

You were off by three if you want to get pissy about it. Banff has NEVER appeared in TW....

How is it "marketing spin"? Exactly WTF do you know about what it takes to put these courses in the game? When you have a clue, then you can come back here and act like you know something. I have actually worked with EA on 6 of their previous Golf courses doing the digital photography and videotaping. So I at least have a working knowledge of what EA has to go through to get these courses in the game. I also get updates from them at every TW Community Day event when they discuss the new courses and re-built courses and what it took to get or renew a license with that course. There is a great deal that goes on behind the scenes that you will never hear about, so spare me with your misinformed, condescending attitude. Why you have to act like this is beyond me.

[JRod]

Banff, Hazeltine, and Oakmont have NEVER appeared in an EA Sports or TW Golf game. And don't dismiss the fact that even though courses in 09 are re-appearing in TW10, they all require licensing updates which are anything but cheap.....

I was off by one...big deal.

You can keep saying they need to update the courses and get the licenses but it's just marketing spin by EA. I'm not going to give them credit for things that they should do and you can come up with excuses like it's not cheap or they have to get licensing. And let's not forget business that cost is being passed off to consumers in some way. So forgive me while I don't shed a tear for EA Sports who have to pay to get a license.

I wonder how many of these courses know that Tiger is only game in town and milk EA Sports because of that. They know EA has to pay.

You were off by three if you want to get pissy about it. Banff has NEVER appeared in TW....

How is it "marketing spin"? Exactly WTF do you know about what it takes to put these courses in the game? When you have a clue, then you can come back here and act like you know something. I have actually worked with EA on 6 of their previous Golf courses doing the digital photography and videotaping. So I at least have a working knowledge of what EA has to go through to get these courses in the game. I also get updates from them at every TW Community Day event when they discuss the new courses and re-built courses and what it took to get or renew a license with that course. There is a great deal that goes on behind the scenes that you will never hear about, so spare me with your misinformed, condescending attitude. Why you have to act like this is beyond me.

You didn't read tim. I said I don't think TP has appeared in years. For some reason I thought TP was on the PC long time ago. I may be thinking of Links however. Banff I said never appeared. So I was off by one.


When you are the shill boy for Tiger it pisses me off you come in here and put spin to everything on Tiger. EA gets courses that has majors in that year, which is fine. Then they take the game off off for whatever reasons, fees, upgrade, disk space whatever. But when a course doesn't appear for a few years, technically it's new that year, because the marketing people say it's new. Bethpage Black was in the 02 version, or around that version. Problem is this practice is accepted by the consumer and doesn't really hurt EA. When Links left the scene, they had quite a good library for that game. EA's library consistently hovers on the low side of things. It's a different time but if you think about the courses are rehashes like TPC and St. Andrew but you have to put them in the game. So they get upgrades. Then you through in a few new ones. And maybe take a few out for the reasons I listed above.

Still, in my opinion the library from EA could be better and should be better.

[JRod]

I wonder how many of these courses know that Tiger is only game in town and milk EA Sports because of that. They know EA has to pay.

I am guessing ZERO. I doubt courses think about these kind of things.

Like f*** they don't. You don't think these business managers at Sawgrass, Pebble, St. Andrews know what they are doing. They are worldwide brands. We aren't talking the local muni here.

[bdoughty]

When Links left the scene, they had quite a good library for that game.

Links 2004 had

* Old Course at St. Andrews, Scotland
* Loch Lomond Golf Club, Scotland
* Oakmont Country Club, Pennsylvania
* Greywolf Golf Course, British Columbia
* New South Wales Golf Club, Australia
* Superstition Mountain Golf & Country Club, Arizona
* Mauna Lani Golf Course, Hawai'i
* Four Seasons Resort Aviara, California
* Ocean Mill (Fantasy Course)
* Kapalua Plantation Course, Hawai'i (DLC)
* Gallery Golf Club, North Course, Arizona (DLC)

11 course and two of the above were pay for download courses.


You really can't compare the PC versions of Links and TW because both offered the ability to create and download custom courses and Links 2003 had a converter for old courses.

[bdoughty]

I wonder how many of these courses know that Tiger is only game in town and milk EA Sports because of that. They know EA has to pay.

I am guessing ZERO. I doubt courses think about these kind of things.

Like f*** they don't. You don't think these business managers at Sawgrass, Pebble, St. Andrews know what they are doing. They are worldwide brands. We aren't talking the local muni here.

You missed the sarcasm it seems. Courses are the pieces of land that you play golf on. They have no ability to think. Hence my reply.

That said there is not an infinite amount of money you can spend on licenses and still sell a game for $49.99 to $59.99.