2008 NFL Season

Rodster · Post by **Rodster** » Sat Jan 10, 2009 8:55 pm

XXXIV wrote:Love defensive battles.

To the Ravens...Great win...Tough as nails s***.

To the NFL... Either start taking delay of game seriously or remove the clock.

Sometimes its called at 00...sometimes its called after 1 second and today it was ignored for 2 seconds....

IT DOES RAISE THE QUESTION.

How does the ref decide wether he wants to call it or not? ...By who he likes?...or his personal incompetence?

Agreed, with all the high tech equipment available once the clock reaches zero it should signal the ref that the clock reached zero. If the ball was not snapped then the ref needs to call, delay of game.

XXXIV · Post by **XXXIV** » Sat Jan 10, 2009 8:57 pm

Rodster and anyone else that saw the game....did Flacco look like he stepped back out of the end zone when the Ravens had the ball at the one?...They never showed a replay.

Rodster · Post by **Rodster** » Sat Jan 10, 2009 9:00 pm

There's one thing everyone has forgotten that the 2009 NFL Season is the last year of the salary cap and there has been no, nada, zip, zero discussions between the NFLPA and the league. There was a rumor floating around prior to Gene Upshaw passing that the players association might strike over this issue.

Leebo33 · Post by **Leebo33** » Sat Jan 10, 2009 9:10 pm

XXXIV wrote:Rodster and anyone else that saw the game....did Flacco look like he stepped back out of the end zone when the Ravens had the ball at the one?...They never showed a replay.

Yes! I thought he stepped out.

Brando70 · Post by **Brando70** » Sat Jan 10, 2009 9:42 pm

That delay of game non-call was appalling, because that's such an easy call to make. They should have a buzzer like the shot clock in basketball. And the booth official should be allowed to overturn whatever play happens when the clock expires and the field refs don't call it.

I hated how some of the commentators sidestepped it by saying the Titans had plenty of opportunities to win the game. That's true. But it doesn't take away from a call that would have pushed the Ravens into a 3rd and 15 on the game-winning drive.

XXXIV · Post by **XXXIV** » Sat Jan 10, 2009 9:50 pm

Brando70 wrote:
I hated how some of the commentators sidestepped it by saying the Titans had plenty of opportunities to win the game. That's true. But it doesn't take away from a call that would have pushed the Ravens into a 3rd and 15 on the game-winning drive.

That annoyed me too...Some commentators are just ass kissers at heart.
Some men arent really men.

This s*** happens every week....Its either a penalty or it isnt!

They had that piece of s*** Mike Pierrera on the NFL network this week lying his ass off about these very calls.

pigpen81 · Post by **pigpen81** » Sat Jan 10, 2009 11:00 pm

XXXIV wrote:
Brando70 wrote:
I hated how some of the commentators sidestepped it by saying the Titans had plenty of opportunities to win the game. That's true. But it doesn't take away from a call that would have pushed the Ravens into a 3rd and 15 on the game-winning drive.
That annoyed me too...Some commentators are just ass kissers at heart.
Some men arent really men.

This s*** happens every week....Its either a penalty or it isnt!

They had that piece of s*** Mike Pierrera on the NFL network this week lying his ass off about these very calls.

That crap makes the NFL so overated in my book.

BS calls ALL the time.

greggsand · Post by **greggsand** » Sat Jan 10, 2009 11:22 pm

Rodster wrote:There's one thing everyone has forgotten that the 2009 NFL Season is the last year of the salary cap and there has been no, nada, zip, zero discussions between the NFLPA and the league. There was a rumor floating around prior to Gene Upshaw passing that the players association might strike over this issue.

The big story would be if they worked out a new deal this early in the process.... Nothing new here.

XXXIV · Post by **XXXIV** » Sun Jan 11, 2009 12:37 am

Grats to the Cardinals...I saw the Panthers winning by 700 points...Shocking.

Also a special shout out to the refs in this game for calling delay of game....get a special call ?

pk500 · Post by **pk500** » Sun Jan 11, 2009 1:04 am

XXXIV wrote:Rodster and anyone else that saw the game....did Flacco look like he stepped back out of the end zone when the Ravens had the ball at the one?...They never showed a replay.

It sure looked close.

I'm still not completely sold on Baltimore. Tennessee should've won that game. Three turnovers inside Baltimore's half of the field were complete killers. But Flacco is uncommonly calm under pressure.

I am starting to believe in Arizona. That team has nice offensive balance, and its offense will continue to score points as long as it can run effectively. Plus it's front four on defense just manhandled Carolina's offensive line.

Could Delhomme have been any worse? I'm almost starting to agree with Albert, Moose and Goose that Arizona saw something on film about Carolina's patterns or Delhomme's delivery. The Cardinals' secondary had ESP on Carolina's routes.

And why did Carolina's offensive coordinator continue to have Delhomme throw deep even after it was apparent early he was having a rough night? Why give up on the run? Better yet: Why didn't Carolina even try the run?

And so much for Fox's reputation as a defensive genius. It blew my mind that Carolina's defense left Fitzgerald that open for that long, especially since Boldin was out. Did Carolina really think Steve Breaston was going to beat its secondary over and over?

Just a strange game. But the winner of tomorrow's NFC game better be ready for a hell of a tilt next week against Arizona.

Take care,
PK

Rodster · Post by **Rodster** » Sun Jan 11, 2009 1:23 am

The NFL has had two feel good stories this year. One of them was the Dolphins for obvious reasons and the other is the Arizona Cardinals who haven't anything since what the 1940's. The other side story is Kurt Warner who was written off and is playing like the 2000 version of himself. I hope they win next week as well as the Super Bowl.

wco81 · Post by **wco81** » Sun Jan 11, 2009 1:46 am

Cards are still suspect, the way they were plastered by the Jets and NE and one other team this year.

That defense will revert to form but it certainly helps to play with a lead.

Delhomme stinking up the joint shouldn't be surprising. He went to the Superbowl how many years ago and didn't take the next step?

He needs a TE and maybe a slot WR but the way they were running this year, they probably thought they didn't need to develop consistency. Or try to develop a young player like Jarrett.

He was staring down WRs, like that one play where he was staring at Smith on a slant so long the CB was able to tip the ball up and the safety was able to run in and catch the tip.

greggsand · Post by **greggsand** » Sun Jan 11, 2009 3:31 am

wco81 wrote:Cards are still suspect, the way they were plastered by the Jets and NE and one other team this year.

That defense will revert to form but it certainly helps to play with a lead.

As a Cards fan, I'm loaded with homer-fever, but imagine if Boldin would have been on the field. And the Defense only needs to play at this level for 2 more games

The Jets game was rough, but that NE was meaningless for AZ(I was just glad no one got hurt). And yeah, the Cards are 'suspect', but who isn't this year???

Given the only thing I've had to be excited about in the last 25 years as a cards fan is 'high draft picks', this is a long time coming (whether they win next week or not). I just loved the Fox guys having absolutely nothing to say after the game was over.

All I know is, go Philly! I don't want to see AZ in NY next week...

johnvon314 · Post by **johnvon314** » Sun Jan 11, 2009 10:16 am

Ugggh... what a complete furball hacked up by my Panthers last night. Give the Cards credit for a strong defensive gameplan, but the Panthers' failure was at every level even factoring in Delhomme's worst game ever. No pass rush, no coverage on Fitzgerald, abandoning the running game too soon, poor pass protection, not getting Steve Smith the ball (he has been know to beat triple coverage from time to time). Special teams were good...that's about it.

A lot people are calling for John Fox's head this morning. Hard to say... he has coached the best stretch in franchise history. Certainly the defensive coordinator has a lot of 'splaining to do. While 6 TO's by your QB is hard to overcome, the defense still could have stepped up at some point. It never did.

Well at least we have basketball in the state if not necessarily in Charlotte.

Congrats to the Cards... well deserved. Ravens and Cards win. Can the Eagles continue the bird trend?

John

johnvon314 · Post by **johnvon314** » Sun Jan 11, 2009 10:24 am

pk500 wrote: Could Delhomme have been any worse? I'm almost starting to agree with Albert, Moose and Goose that Arizona saw something on film about Carolina's patterns or Delhomme's delivery. The Cardinals' secondary had ESP on Carolina's routes.

Jake does have tendency to stare down receivers especialy with Steve Smith being the only go-to receiver on the team. That was never more apparent last night. I think everyone in the stadium knew where he was going to throw the ball eeach play. Of course that number dwindled dramatically as the game went on.

John

XXXIV · Post by **XXXIV** » Sun Jan 11, 2009 11:03 am

johnvon314 wrote: Jake does have tendency to stare down receivers especialy with Steve Smith being the only go-to receiver on the team. That was never more apparent last night. I think everyone in the stadium knew where he was going to throw the ball eeach play. Of course that number dwindled dramatically as the game went on.

John

That was the strange thing to me. Warner had the same situation ( with Boldin out) but managed not to make a fool of himself.

Seemed everyone in the world but the Panthers defense knew where he was going to throw the ball.

Rodster wrote:The NFL has had two feel good stories this year. One of them was the Dolphins for obvious reasons and the other is the Arizona Cardinals who haven't anything since what the 1940's. The other side story is Kurt Warner who was written off and is playing like the 2000 version of himself. I hope they win next week as well as the Super Bowl.

The key to stopping the Cardinals( as it is with most all teams) is a pass rush and both the Eagles and Giants will find their way to Warner. He will show his age next week.

I would like to see a Warner do well and play in another super bowl but old and slow is old and slow..

pk500 · Post by **pk500** » Sun Jan 11, 2009 11:22 am

XXXIV wrote:I would like to see a Warner do well and play in another super bowl but old and slow is old and slow..

Old and smart sometimes has a way of compensating for old and slow.

Love,
Jim Plunkett

warnerwlf98 · Post by **warnerwlf98** » Sun Jan 11, 2009 11:27 am

After the Chargers beat Denver to win the division, it got me thinking that this is their year - kind of like the year that the Steelers finally won the Superbowl.

Every year before that year, the Steelers were favored and only managed to get to the Superbowl once and lost (to Dallas) despite playing in tons of championship games and hosting most of them. This seems like the situation the Chargers are in now.

I knew the Chargers would beat the Colts last week just because of the law of averages. It's hard to beat a team in the NFL twice, especially if they're not in the same division. And the Colts COULD NOT beat the Chargers again on another last second field goal.

Look out for the Chargers. But as a side note, I live in AZ and know the Cardinals well. I never guessed they'd win yesterday. They went 3-7 outside that bad NFC west division. I always believed they'd lose to the Lions (if they made the playoffs) in a playoff game. If the Eagles pull it out . . . the Cards are going to the Superbowl. That possibility is really shocking,

johnvon314 · Post by **johnvon314** » Sun Jan 11, 2009 11:58 am

XXXIV wrote: That was the strange thing to me. Warner had the same situation ( with Boldin out) but managed not to make a fool of himself.

Seemed everyone in the world but the Panthers defense knew where he was going to throw the ball.

And that's why so many are questioning the defensive coaching on the Panther's side. Warner is a much better QB, faced no pass rush, and apparently no pass coverage either. Makes you wonder about resigning Peppers. When the guy is on, he can tear apart an offensive line. Then he disappears for games at a time.

John

fletcher21 · Post by **fletcher21** » Sun Jan 11, 2009 12:55 pm

What do you guys think about today? I say Philly and Pitt will pull it out. Philly/Ny will be a GREAT game!

Brando70 · Post by **Brando70** » Sun Jan 11, 2009 12:58 pm

I am more surprised that the Cardinals kicked the crap out the Panthers than I was when the Giants beat the Pats in the Super Bowl. The Panthers had played so well in the second half of the season and appeared to have a dream match up here. But that Delhomme fumble and then the pick after mounting a nice drive completely rattled them.

It's something to think that the NFC championship could be played in Phoenix next week and that this team is one game away from a Super Bowl appearance. Some may say it devalues the regular season, but f*** it, this is what makes NFL football so entertaining.

Brando70 · Post by **Brando70** » Sun Jan 11, 2009 1:02 pm

fletcher21 wrote:What do you guys think about today? I say Philly and Pitt will pull it out. Philly/Ny will be a GREAT game!

These are both great matchups. I think if Brandon Jacobs stays healthy for the whole game, Giants win. He really ran over the Eagles in the two season games before he got knocked out in the second half of game two.

I also have to go with Pitt at home, despite San Diego playing up to their talent level now. After yesterday's upsets, I think the home teams win today.

10spro · Post by **10spro** » Sun Jan 11, 2009 8:08 pm

It looks like PIT at least will make their home field advantage count.

Rodster · Post by **Rodster** » Sun Jan 11, 2009 8:20 pm

It'll be the 2 best teams in the AFC battling it out next week. A great match up for the AFC title game. My early favorite is Pittsburgh.

hellbent · Post by **hellbent** » Sun Jan 11, 2009 8:48 pm

Rodster wrote:It'll be the 2 best teams in the AFC battling it out next week. A great match up for the AFC title game. My early favorite is Pittsburgh.

Let's hope for the sake of having 2 great games next weekend that the Cards stay hot. I'd hate to see McNabb calling everyone in his circle from the Cards sideline over the course of the 4th quarter.