OT: New Music?

davet010 · Post by **davet010** » Sun Jan 04, 2009 12:39 pm

Hawkwind meets Wire - now that I would pay to see, so long as it was the original lineup with Lemmy and Bob Calvert.

fsquid · Post by **fsquid** » Mon Jan 05, 2009 3:49 pm

I liked the Sevendust album that came out in 2008. Much better to see them live though.

GTHobbes · Post by **GTHobbes** » Mon Jan 05, 2009 3:54 pm

Brando70 wrote:My 11 favorite songs of 2008:

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"Skinny Love," Bon Iver. The best song off the best album of the year. It's like you're right in the cabin where he recorded this.

Brando, seeing your post reminded me that I have been meaning to pick up the Bon Iver album for months...I finally got around to downloading it last night and am liking it quite a bit. Many thanks.

pk500 · Post by **pk500** » Mon Jan 05, 2009 4:38 pm

I didn't like the Bon Iver record on first listen, but it's really growing on me.

My biggest concern about the rise of the "beard bands" is the flock of imitators they will spawn in 2009 and the record companies' stampede to sign them. It reminds me of the grunge craze after Nirvana's breakthrough or the garage band craze after White Stripes emerged.

Problem is, there were only a handful of bands that could do grunge well. Most of the grunge bands signed quickly by labels in the early 90s sucked. Same with the garage bands.

The same probably is true for the beard bands. For every Bon Iver and Fleet Foxes, you're going to get 10 self-affected, pretentious dickheads like Conor Oberst.

Take care,
PK

Spooky · Post by **Spooky** » Mon Jan 05, 2009 4:41 pm

pk500 wrote:I didn't like the Bon Iver record on first listen, but it's really growing on me.

My biggest concern about the rise of the "beard bands" is the flock of imitators they will spawn in 2009 and the record companies' stampede to sign them. It reminds me of the grunge craze after Nirvana's breakthrough or the garage band craze after White Stripes emerged.

Problem is, there were only a handful of bands that could do grunge well. Most of the grunge bands signed quickly by labels in the early 90s sucked. Same with the garage bands.

The same probably is true for the beard bands. For every Bon Iver and Fleet Foxes, you're going to get 10 self-affected, pretentious dickheads like Conor Oberst.

Take care,
PK

Great points. "Beard Bands"...LOL! What a genre that is.

On another note...

Anyone heard 'Department of Eagles' album? It appears to be a couple of the guys from 'Grizzly Bear' whom I like. The opening track is freakin' amazing and then the rest kind of blends together but is worth a listen.

davet010 · Post by **davet010** » Mon Jan 05, 2009 6:53 pm

pk500 wrote: My biggest concern about the rise of the "beard bands" is the flock of imitators they will spawn in 2009 and the record companies' stampede to sign them. It reminds me of the grunge craze after Nirvana's breakthrough or the garage band craze after White Stripes emerged.

Take care,
PK

Look on the bright side, pk - a good number of the bands that came out after Nirvana were significantly better....tbh I always thought they were shite.

And they ripped off the Pixies, who were far more interesting.

greggsand · Post by **greggsand** » Mon Jan 05, 2009 7:24 pm

pk500 wrote:My biggest concern about the rise of the "beard bands" is the flock of imitators they will spawn in 2009 and the record companies' stampede to sign them. It reminds me of the grunge craze after Nirvana's breakthrough or the garage band craze after White Stripes emerged.

Problem is, there were only a handful of bands that could do grunge well. Most of the grunge bands signed quickly by labels in the early 90s sucked. Same with the garage bands.

The same probably is true for the beard bands. For every Bon Iver and Fleet Foxes, you're going to get 10 self-affected, pretentious dickheads like Conor Oberst.

d*****-y "genre hoppers" usually go where the money is. Until, Fleet Foxes moves some serious 'units', we're probably safe. If Nirvana wouldn't have sold a zillion records, the metal heads wouldn't have traded their spandex for flannel (did someone say Candlebox??).

At least Sub Pop has shown some good taste with their signings (so far). It's been interesting to see how they've reinvented themselves. I'm just glad to see Beachwood Sparks firing-up again!

Jimmydeicide · Post by **Jimmydeicide** » Tue Jan 06, 2009 7:18 pm

Stumbled across this site looking at some Joanna newsom vids.

Blackcabsessions.com lots of bands on there that are mentioned above up close and personal like.

Even some Beard bands

www.blackcabsessions.com

greggsand · Post by **greggsand** » Tue Jan 06, 2009 10:55 pm

Jimmydeicide wrote:Stumbled across this site looking at some Joanna newsom vids.

Blackcabsessions.com lots of bands on there that are mentioned above up close and personal like.

Even some Beard bands
www.blackcabsessions.com

That is a great site. The Brian Wilson one esp. The My Morning Jacket is cool too(but everything they do is cool)...

Brando70 · Post by **Brando70** » Tue Jan 06, 2009 11:50 pm

pk500 wrote:My biggest concern about the rise of the "beard bands" is the flock of imitators they will spawn in 2009 and the record companies' stampede to sign them. It reminds me of the grunge craze after Nirvana's breakthrough or the garage band craze after White Stripes emerged.

Problem is, there were only a handful of bands that could do grunge well. Most of the grunge bands signed quickly by labels in the early 90s sucked. Same with the garage bands.

The same probably is true for the beard bands. For every Bon Iver and Fleet Foxes, you're going to get 10 self-affected, pretentious dickheads like Conor Oberst.

Ha, I do like "beard bands."

The industry always strip mines whatevery subgenre is hot. Grunge, gangsta rap, hair metal, punk pop.... I remember when INXS hit it big with Kick, it seemed like every Australian band got a US record deal, and then got dropped before you could say "Yahoo Serious."

That Fleet Foxes album is quite awesome. The arrangements in particular really elevate the songs.

pk500 · Post by **pk500** » Mon Jan 19, 2009 2:16 pm

The band isn't everyone's cup of tea, but I really like Antony and the Johnsons' new record. Seems a bit more subdued and a bit less over-the-top than the last record.

Antony Hegarty is a unique talent.

Take care,
PK

greggsand · Post by **greggsand** » Mon Jan 19, 2009 2:38 pm

pk500 wrote:The band isn't everyone's cup of tea, but I really like Antony and the Johnsons' new record. Seems a bit more subdued and a bit less over-the-top than the last record.

Antony Hegarty is a unique talent.

Take care,
PK

Ha, I like Antony & The Johnsons, too. I file it under "stuff I listen to when driving by myself & have the window rolled-up"... Antony is a bizzare talent & even stranger to watch live.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_R3CYVLcYZw

He also pops up on a lot of other projects lately (The Rolling Stones' Shine a Light doc and Hercules & Love Affair record comes to mind). Haven't heard the new one yet, but will soon.

RobVarak · Post by **RobVarak** » Mon Jan 19, 2009 3:12 pm

pk500 wrote:The band isn't everyone's cup of tea, but I really like Antony and the Johnsons' new record. Seems a bit more subdued and a bit less over-the-top than the last record.

Antony Hegarty is a unique talent.

Take care,
PK

I have a hard time contextualizing a "less over-the-top" version. I'll have to check it out.

Getting caught up on stuff from '08 that crept into a lot of Top 10 lists. I've gotta say that I'm loving the newest Okkervil River. I've always liked their stuff, but for some reason this one really gets me.

Still digesting a lot of this stuff. Unfortunately, in my dotage year-end Top 10 lists have become more a matter of reaction than action for me. Rather than tossing my hat into the arena and explaining why the conventional wisdom is FUBAR I end up using them as guides to the stuff that I missed while I was too busy working and training the kids to leave me the hell alone.

Spooky · Post by **Spooky** » Mon Jan 19, 2009 4:06 pm

I am going to start a sub-thread in this one for ‘Old Music’.

Every now and then we should mention an older album that is worthy of some new recognition or one that we are really enjoying and want to share.

My entry into the ‘Old Music’ recognition is..

Motley Crue – Too Fast for Love

One of the top 5 greatest American rock albums of all time! Especially the re-issued one with all of the bonus Leathur tracks.

Such a unique mixture of metal, rock, punk and even a hint of new wave. This album is the root and godfather of early 80’s L.A. rock.

I have a renewed love affair with this album probably once a year.

It’s so full of raw, young, testosterone filled angst and energy. It truly is an album that deserves a nod from even the staunchest 80’s metal naysayers.

…and no, I am not kidding.

davet010 · Post by **davet010** » Mon Jan 19, 2009 5:10 pm

Spooky wrote:
Such a unique mixture of metal, rock, punk and even a hint of new wave. This album is the root and godfather of early 80’s L.A. rock.

It’s so full of raw, young, testosterone filled angst and energy. It truly is an album that deserves a nod from even the staunchest 80’s metal naysayers.

…and no, I am not kidding.

Just the phrase 'early 80's LA rock' is enough to condemn it to the lowest circle of hell, and that's before we consider the tedious poodle rockers responsible for it.

That's got the same connection to punk as I have to the Space Shuttle...I've seen it from a distance, but no idea about what it means.

Spooky · Post by **Spooky** » Mon Jan 19, 2009 5:38 pm

davet010 wrote:
Spooky wrote:
Such a unique mixture of metal, rock, punk and even a hint of new wave. This album is the root and godfather of early 80’s L.A. rock.

It’s so full of raw, young, testosterone filled angst and energy. It truly is an album that deserves a nod from even the staunchest 80’s metal naysayers.

…and no, I am not kidding.
Just the phrase 'early 80's LA rock' is enough to condemn it to the lowest circle of hell, and that's before we consider the tedious poodle rockers responsible for it.

Good point. Perhaps I should have not claimed it's responsiblity for being anything other than a kick ass record.

pk500 · Post by **pk500** » Mon Jan 19, 2009 6:39 pm

One more: Derek Trucks' new album is KILLER.

Take care,
PK

RobVarak · Post by **RobVarak** » Mon Jan 19, 2009 7:30 pm

pk500 wrote:One more: Derek Trucks' new album is KILLER.

Take care,
PK

I've been watching him for years, and in the last 2-3 I think he's realized an amazing amount of potential. At Clapton's Crossroads festival a few years ago he blew headliner after headliner off the stage with playing that was both tasteful and incredibly intense.

Post by **ScoopBrady** » Mon Jan 19, 2009 7:48 pm

What kind of music does Trucks play? Blues?

Anyways, I'd like to throw out the album Journey to the West by Monkey. It's a side project from Gorillaz Jamie Hewlett and Damon Albarn. It's definitely unique and interesting.

RobVarak · Post by **RobVarak** » Mon Jan 19, 2009 8:47 pm

ScoopBrady wrote:What kind of music does Trucks play? Blues?

Anyways, I'd like to throw out the album Journey to the West by Monkey. It's a side project from Gorillaz Jamie Hewlett and Damon Albarn. It's definitely unique and interesting.

He's a blues based player but likes to mix in influences from Africa and India a lot.

Brando70 · Post by **Brando70** » Mon Jan 19, 2009 10:46 pm

Spooky wrote:I am going to start a sub-thread in this one for ‘Old Music’.

Every now and then we should mention an older album that is worthy of some new recognition or one that we are really enjoying and want to share.

I wound up listening to Graham Parker last year for the first time, particular Squeezing Out Sparks, where he out-Costello's Elvis Costello. Terrific songwriter who wraps together clever lyrics and great melodies.

I also checked out another famous Gram, Gram Parsons, the original alt-country guy. G.P. and Grievous Angel are full of twang and melancholoy that tend to characterize the best country music. I might have to go back and check out The Flying Burrito Brothers now.

EZSnappin · Post by **EZSnappin** » Mon Jan 19, 2009 10:55 pm

Not an Antony fan - can't get my head around the voice - but I'll give Spooky some back up here; the Crüe's debut is a great piece of LA glam. Not very metal or punk (you can kinda dance to Tommy and Nikki's rhythms), but straight ahead Sweet meets Hanoi Rocks sing-along party songs; not too slick, not too poppy. "Live Wire," "Stick To Your Guns," and the all-latter-sins-are-forgiven "Too Fast For Love." Great album. They got two classic albums under their belts before whoring out for Mtv.

Post by **ScoopBrady** » Mon Jan 19, 2009 10:58 pm

fsquid wrote:I liked the Sevendust album that came out in 2008. Much better to see them live though.

I enjoyed it as well. I could listen to Lajon sing anything. The man can sing.

EZSnappin · Post by **EZSnappin** » Mon Jan 19, 2009 10:59 pm

Brando70 wrote:I also checked out another famous Gram, Gram Parsons, the original alt-country guy. G.P. and Grievous Angel are full of twang and melancholy that tend to characterize the best country music. I might have to go back and check out The Flying Burrito Brothers now.

I got turned on to Parsons a few years ago. "$1000 Wedding" is one of my favorite songs ever.

Smurfy · Post by **Smurfy** » Tue Jan 20, 2009 12:42 am

On the "Old Music" topic, I picked up some Def Leppard over the holidays. I have the habit of listening to newly purchased CDs over and over and over again for about a month.

This was the first time my mom ever got angry at me for playing music over and over again. I guess you can only hear so much of Joe Elliott's voice before it makes you snap