OT: 2008 Elections/Politics thread, Part 2

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Teal wrote:If I close my eyes and listen to Lindsay Graham...I could swear it was actually Clay Aiken...

...yeesh, not the best person to put on the stage at the RNC...
Graham reminds me of a used car salesman. He would do anything to make his product sound good even if it's sh-tty.

BTW i'm liking this video on Palin. That's the kind of thing she should've talked more about in her speech.

Wasted opportunity IMO.
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"sigh"

Listening to Tom Ridge makes me wish McCain picked him. Sure he's a bit staid but he's steady and he gave a very good speech just now.

Oh well, sometimes star power and looks beats out sturdy, hard working pull up your boot straps kind of guys.
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SPTO wrote:
Oh well, sometimes star power and looks beats out sturdy, hard working pull up your boot straps kind of guys.

:lol: ...No comment as its tooo easy.
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Teal wrote:If I close my eyes and listen to Lindsay Graham...I could swear it was actually Clay Aiken...

...yeesh, not the best person to put on the stage at the RNC...
I love how Graham bares his teeth when he's pissed or trying to make a point, just like the hyperactive, annoying cocker spaniel that he resembles.

Man, he's bad. Thank God the Palin video put him out of his misery.

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XXXIV wrote:
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Oh well, sometimes star power and looks beats out sturdy, hard working pull up your boot straps kind of guys.

:lol: ...No comment as its tooo easy.
Touche!

It's a general comment though. In my perfect world the candidates would both be in their early 60s and with extensive records whether they be political or military.
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Yeah, I liked the Palin video. It was SUPPOSED to be on prior to her speech last night, but Guiliani had to 'wing' it and talked too long...

Ridge is a good guy, but I'm happy with the choice that McCain made.
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Someone wake me up. Cindy McCain is literally making me sleepy. What a monotone and secretarial voice!
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SPTO wrote:Someone wake me up. Cindy McCain is literally making me sleepy. What a monotone and secretarial voice!
Put the game on :P

Nevermind...The Skins just died.
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SPTO wrote:Someone wake me up. Cindy McCain is literally making me sleepy. What a monotone and secretarial voice!
Eh, she's not running for office...so I'm tapping on the computer rather than watching it...
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Teal wrote:
SPTO wrote:Someone wake me up. Cindy McCain is literally making me sleepy. What a monotone and secretarial voice!
Eh, she's not running for office...so I'm tapping on the computer rather than watching it...
Same, though Elizabeth Dole was very good as well as Laura Bush when they introduced their husbands during their conventions. Cindy however....is like a cure for insomnia.
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love the protesters, what's up with security there?? USA! USA! Oy.... 8O
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greggsand wrote:love the protesters, what's up with security there?? USA! USA! Oy.... 8O
Haven't really noticed the protesters on the PBS feed but I switched around at times and saw some people escorted out.

Oh and the "USA USA USA" chants got old very fast.

Anyways i'll have more to say later...
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I don't necessarily think it's the best thing to do, but they're chanting USA to drown out those ass headed f*** tards. I like what McCain said, though: "Please don't get distracted by the ground noise and static." That got a good response, but I wish they'd heeded it and stopped the chanting...
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Man, what a dull speech...but at least he wrote it. Thought you repubs said no one did that anymore. Now I can see why.

Wish they'd show more of that hottie Palin, maybe liven things back up.
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wow, i thought it was very good. I liked it much better than palin's. He was very cordial, classy, and respectful, even when going after obama. McCain's speech had real substance, he gave his solutions to problems unlike Palin's speech. It may now make Palin's speech look superficial and cheap due to the snide attacks she made and no substance.

I also liked how he admitted that we are in tough times, thank god, something GW I don't think has ever done.

McCain is really a good guy, and it came out with his speech today. I would have definitely voted for him in 2000 if he had won the nomination. He does represent more the REAL republican party of Reagan and Bush Sr. that I was part of, not the one we've had since the late 90s which is ultra right wing. And because of that, he may be on the wrong side of history during this election.

btw, the protesters were really stupid. I felt sorry for him when he was getting interrupted. The networks really shouldn't even show us that crap. do it like pro sports, like when some guy runs out in the baseball field, mlb has a policy not to show it and bring attention to it. I hope they got a good whopping outside.

Excellent Speech.
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Inuyasha I agree with you 100% That was the best speech i've ever heard McCain ever give. He was genuine, showed humility, was cordial and respectful to his opponent and when going after Obama he did it by pointing out differences rather then hurling insults like Palin did.

The part of the speech where he spoke of his time in Vietnam resonated with me. He showed that he had to fight hard in life and that no matter how tough it was for him he fought back and also learned that there are greater causes then oneself.

That's the John McCain of 2000 and before. That was the real Maverick and not the phony baloney McCain we've been seeing for the last four years. Unfortunately the tide of history may be against him. I wanted McCain to win in 2000 because I thought he'd make the best president out of all the candidates and when he was blindsided by Karl Rove's dirty tricks I felt really bad for him.

McCain is a good guy, a humble guy. A REAL American if you will. If McCain can frame the issues in this election the way he did with his speech then he has a fighting chance.
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Boy that run-up at the end, when he began to get cheered and he just kept on going...that was inspiring.

For John McCain...it was a wonderful speech, overall.
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GTHobbes wrote:Man, what a dull speech...but at least he wrote it. Thought you repubs said no one did that anymore. Now I can see why.

Wish they'd show more of that hottie Palin, maybe liven things back up.
Mark Salter wrote it.

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Boy that run-up at the end, when he began to get cheered and he just kept on going...that was inspiring.
Agree. I think the last 10 minutes were the strongest, followed closely by the paragraph where he said, "We lost the way." He's still going to get hammered with that 90% number, but he's at least built a rhetorical foundation for distancing himself from the pack. I wish he could've done it more directly, but he was pushing his luck as it was I think.
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Teal wrote:Boy that run-up at the end, when he began to get cheered and he just kept on going...that was inspiring.

For John McCain...it was a wonderful speech, overall.
Indeed I nearly got goosebumps at that moment.
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Did any protesters interrupt Obama's speech or is this something only liberals do?
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Bingo!

Or how about all the protesters doing damage to property in Minnesota? There was nothing like that going on out here in Denver.
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I don't think they were liberals , more the Alex Jones NWO crowd. They did the same thing outside the DNC, but I don't think during Obama's speech. Could have been since it was at an outdoor stadium and they would've been drowned out.
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Inuyasha wrote:I don't think they were liberals , more the Alex Jones NWO crowd. They did the same thing outside the DNC, but I don't think during Obama's speech. Could have been since it was at an outdoor stadium and they would've been drowned out.
C'mon man, seriously? There is no comparison to the amount of protesting going on at the DNC and the RNC.
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GTHobbes wrote:Man, what a dull speech...but at least he wrote it. Thought you repubs said no one did that anymore. Now I can see why.

Wish they'd show more of that hottie Palin, maybe liven things back up.
What no way. Palin speech comes off as a cheerleading session compared to McCains speech. McCain told you that there were problems and here are his ways to fix them. Palin was just name calling and didn't give any solutions.
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The problem now is in the details. Prior to the conventions it's always about selling the candidates.

Obama and McCain now have to come up with what they are going to do. The two acceptance speeches were woefully weak on ideas. What I mean is the two candidates said, "We plan on fixing ______." Now they have to tell people how.

I think it's on for Obama. He's going to have to get better because McCain didn't turn into Dole/Mondale/Dukakis.


And by McCain giving a "throw the bums out speech", that set-ups a strange dynamic for him and his campaign. It was the party's own "bums" that set-up this need for change in Washington. I know the party wants to blame Congressional Democrats for the problems but that's a weak argument because they were only in power for a few years. Prior to this, I didn't hear McCain say he wanted to get rid of Bush/Cheney.

I don't disagree with it but it was very strange to here considering that the majority of today's problems were caused from a Republican Congress but mostly the Bush Administration.
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